The list of bogus ‘hate crimes’ at Trump and supporters to push "Racist" Narrative.

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Most people throw blind words around and overlook the facts that surround a particular incident to spin it as he is a racist and that his supporters are all racist.

I don't see that "tactic" stopping anytime soon either and that's sad.
 
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Perhaps one should simply trust Luke 8:17

For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad.

and Matthew 10:26

Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known.

I believe that many of the american people just want to be told the truth, regardless of their political leanings. When blatant lies are being broadcast among MSM sources, it just causes even more division among the left and right. Truth matters...accepting the truth matters...and if it doesn't, then something is very wrong.
 
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White supremacists certainly do ally themselves with the Republican Party and with Trump.

Top Racists And Neo-Nazis Back Donald Trump

Neo-Nazis explain why they support Donald Trump

US neo-Nazi groups on the rise under President Donald Trump: report

Meet the Horde of Neo-Nazis, Klansmen, and Other Extremist Leaders Endorsing Donald Trump

As I've said before in other threads, he has certainly given white supremacists hope and a rallying call. He said there were some 'very fine people on both sides' when he was publicly addressing the white supremacist violence at the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville. He did finally disavow David Duke and denounced Duke's endorsement of him only after he initially denied knowing who Duke is.

Trump’s David Duke Amnesia

Trump disavows David Duke endorsement after ducking question earlier

Trump Says There Were “Very Fine People on Both Sides” in Charlottesville

White Supremacists Loved President Trump's Latest Comments on Charlottesville

White supremacists and neo-Nazis are praising Trump’s "honest" Charlottesville comments

White supremacy has been more out in the open since he entered into the presidential race and it's been making a steady climb since he was elected too. White supremacists are no longer hiding behind their white hoods and white robes since they've have been rallying so enthusiastically behind Trump.

Trump Gives White Supremacists an Unequivocal Boost

White Supremacists Praise Trump's Inflammatory Immigration Remarks

White Nationalists Praise Trump as 'Most Honest President' Since Washington
 
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Trump has normalized the racist beliefs of white supremacists and that's why they support him.

President Trump is normalizing racism

Trump's Actions, Speeches Normalize Racism

He also has a very long history of racist behavior against minorities and Jews.

Trump's Long History of Racism

The racist comments of Donald Trump

Trump and race: Decades of fueling divisions

Here Are 13 Examples Of Donald Trump Being Racist

Donald Trump’s long history of racism, from the 1970s to 2018

Trump Condemned Racism As ‘Evil.’ Here Are 18 Times He Embraced It.

On Twitter, Trump accuses blacks of racism three times as often as whites

That's not all I found on his very questionable behavior toward minorities during his lifetime.

Donald Trump’s long history of clashes with Native Americans

Decades-Old Housing Discrimination Case Plagues Donald Trump

Former Apprentice Producer Says Trump Would Make Sexist and Racist Comments

‘No Vacancies’ for Blacks: How Donald Trump Got His Start, and Was First Accused of Bias

Trump said 'Despicable' Racist Comments about Blacks, Jews in Taped Apprentice Meetings

15 Controversial Quotes President-Elect Said About Blacks, Hispanics, Jews, Asians And Obama

The FBI released hundreds of pages related to a 1970s housing discrimination lawsuit against Trump

And apparently he also has a very low opinion of Jewish people too.

Donald Trump’s anti-Semitism controversies: A timeline

5 Cringeworthy Things Donald Trump Has Said About the Jews

Trump, No Stranger to Jewish Stereotypes, Rejects Ilhan Omar’s Apology
 
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We're driving around in circles.

Donald Trump is responsible for the words he's said & written, for his own actions. It is indisputable that his incendiary comments have been influential on racists, though they are responsible for their own actions. Donald is also responsible for his commentary that aren't in regards to race but were hateful and showed exceptionally poor leadership.

White nationalism is racist. Right-wing isn't automatically racist, but many of the right-wing terrorists have also been white nationalists.

The white nationalist right-wing Coast Guard lieutenant who plotted a mass terrorism attack & the right wing bomber Cesar Sayoc made their target list based on those Donald Trump had called the enemies of the people. Again. No, Donald is not responsible for their acts, but he's responsible for his own actions.

I've patiently explained to you why I've used care to not personally come out & say what you're pushing me to.

Dang. Do you understand what tokenism means? I'm wondering if that's the reason you persisted with it?

It's bewildering that you choose to keep spending time finding all these videos, quotes that do not refute or even undermine anything I've written. All they do is vocalize opinions that are to your liking. You've got your opinions based on hearing, reading what Donald has said. I've got mine based on reading, hearing the same things, others folks have got theirs.

A niece of Dr. King's believes that Donald isn't racist; Dr. King's children have spoken out against Trump. Obviously we can't know what Dr. King thought of Donald himself. We do know that his wife had characterized Jeff Sessions as racist. Donald still hired him & did not fire him on account of that accusation. Again, I have never characterized Donald as racist on this forum. It's how folks who actually know him have publicly characterized him.

Great post! Trump does have a well documented history of racist behavior against minorities, as I demonstrated in my other posts. Do you know of a white person (other than a racist white person) who would point to a black person and say, "Look at MY African-American over here!"?


Trump Falsely Claims His Approval Among Black Americans Has Doubled

President Trump Says He Got 'a Lot' of Support From the Black Community. Not Quite
 
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Trump has normalized the racist beliefs of white supremacists and that's why they support him.

President Trump is normalizing racism

Trump's Actions, Speeches Normalize Racism

He also has a very long history of racist behavior against minorities and Jews.

Trump's Long History of Racism

The racist comments of Donald Trump

Trump and race: Decades of fueling divisions

Here Are 13 Examples Of Donald Trump Being Racist

Donald Trump’s long history of racism, from the 1970s to 2018

Trump Condemned Racism As ‘Evil.’ Here Are 18 Times He Embraced It.

On Twitter, Trump accuses blacks of racism three times as often as whites

That's not all I found on his very questionable behavior toward minorities during his lifetime.

Donald Trump’s long history of clashes with Native Americans

Decades-Old Housing Discrimination Case Plagues Donald Trump

Former Apprentice Producer Says Trump Would Make Sexist and Racist Comments

‘No Vacancies’ for Blacks: How Donald Trump Got His Start, and Was First Accused of Bias

Trump said 'Despicable' Racist Comments about Blacks, Jews in Taped Apprentice Meetings

15 Controversial Quotes President-Elect Said About Blacks, Hispanics, Jews, Asians And Obama

The FBI released hundreds of pages related to a 1970s housing discrimination lawsuit against Trump

And apparently he also has a very low opinion of Jewish people too.

Donald Trump’s anti-Semitism controversies: A timeline

5 Cringeworthy Things Donald Trump Has Said About the Jews

Trump, No Stranger to Jewish Stereotypes, Rejects Ilhan Omar’s Apology

Reading through the articles and the first thing I noticed was the articles either get the story completely wrong (such as the Park Five incident where they pled guilty to the crimes and were convicted till it was overturned due to DNA evidence. Trump said They admitted they were guilty,". Having an opinion due to a faulty confession is not racism) or the articles didn't know the difference of attacking someone's perceived customs and racism being different from each other (such in the matter of Ghazala Khan that multiple of your articles suggested). The articles also try to slant that calling a country that you have a low opinion of such as a insult calling Africa a ****hole does not constitute racism. Racism would be to call the people of Africa names for the sole reason of their race or promote harsh treatment solely on race. Also the articles went in to Trump questioning Obama's birth certificate which also was not racism. At the time the theroy was all over the internet and Trump bought in to it. Just as questioning Obama's education is not racist as many candidates have done before. If anything the articles get things wrong intentionally to put a racist narrative on Trump and his supporters.

One of the articles went as far to suggest white hate groups voted for Trump because the sole fact he was white, yet overlook the fact that blacks voted for Obama because he is black including black hate groups like the black Panthers (according to U.S. Commission on Civil Rights), Clinton told supporters to vote for her cause of her sex. Not just whites voted for Trump regardless of the narrative people like to spin.

I can go on and on but my kids are awake.
 
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Why do you think white nationalists who've committed actual hate crimes of serious violence have been so inspired by Donald Trump?

Folks have to use a whole lot of care with what is said about Donald on here, due to a rule about not making any "egregious" comments about elected officials. It's on account of that that I have not explicitly said that Donald Trump is a racist. Now, it's a fact that many who've known him well have described him as such. Many folks who've simply listened to what that man has said, written, see that as all the proof needed. You can feel however you want about him.

Attacking somebody over a hat is the sort of moronic nonsense that happens all the dang time. It's one of the reasons why some places ban ball caps & jerseys from sports bars. Same with the Donald hat, since that's really about tribalism. That's hardly on par with using your car to ram through innocent folks, murder a young woman. Or shoot up mosques, as 2 right wing white nationalists have done in recent years. Or send bombs to folks Donald doesn't like.

As for your videos. Tokenism does not help the case whatsoever.

Lol not sure what your source is, but most white nationalists hate Trump for supporting Israel and homosexuality. The only reason they might support him is that he is trying to take down the media with him.
 
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Still nothing to show Trump is racist or that most of his supporters are either. Brenton Tarrant of New Zealand has nothing to do with American politics. Cesar Sayoc was not a racist nor was acting out on the behalf of Trump.

It's sort of like me going on youtube and showing Antifa or other left wing violent movements and trying to villainize people of the other party based solely on this.

Like this


And this that shows a black Trump supporter being attacked and talking if the shoe was on the other foot that people would love to spin it as is all to common.


I could easily show hundreds of examples.

Attack is such a misused word. But let's say he was attacked. He is likely being attacked because of his perceived ignorance - especially given how he looks. He is also very young; he likely doesn't remember Trump before reality TV. Trump, on his own, is prejudiced at best.

You should look up Trump's NY record on gentrification and housing projects,

Decades-Old Housing Discrimination Case Plagues Donald Trump

or the Central Park 5

Don't tell Donald Trump the Central Park 5 aren't guilty


Vox made a list:

https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history
 
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Attack is such a misused word. But let's say he was attacked. He is likely being attacked because of his perceived ignorance - especially given how he looks. He is also very young; he likely doesn't remember Trump before reality TV. Trump, on his own, is prejudiced at best.

You should look up Trump's NY record on gentrification and housing projects,

Decades-Old Housing Discrimination Case Plagues Donald Trump

or the Central Park 5

Don't tell Donald Trump the Central Park 5 aren't guilty


Vox made a list:

https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history


The Park Five incident where they pled guilty to the crimes and were convicted till it was overturned due to DNA evidence. Trump said "They admitted they were guilty,". Having an opinion due to a faulty confession is not racism.

The renters case according to Trump in 1987 "What we didn’t do was rent to welfare cases, white or black". Most of those in the poor neighborhoods who were on welfare at the time we're sadly black Americans. Today there are still some renters who do not rent to low income families which lots of times makes it harder for many African Americans families to rent a good place and a nice neighborhood. Is this racism on the renters part? No it isn't racism to want a renter to have reliable income apart from welfare. I have seen real racism and this is not it.

Systematic Inequality - Center for American Progress
 
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Lol not sure what your source is, but most white nationalists hate Trump for supporting Israel and homosexuality. The only reason they might support him is that he is trying to take down the media with him.

Lol back at you. In this thread alone I've already specified terrorist attacks & plots by white nationalists who praised Donald, other folks have provided heaps of sources. But I'd also think that folks would be aware of current events.
 
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Yes but these are sources from people who want to drive that narrative. I'm not saying no WN support him, but the overwhelming majority do not. Just go on any WN forum such as Stormfront and you will see.

No, those sources are about actual attacks & plotted attacks, not just internet forum posts.


Do you spend time on such forums???
 
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No, those sources are about actual attacks & plotted attacks, not just internet forum posts.


Do you spend time on such forums???

Yes. I give these people honest debate and try to de- radicalize them. Should we not try to save them as well? How can we do that by hating them for their hatred? We must show them true Christianity.
 
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No, those sources are about actual attacks & plotted attacks, not just internet forum posts.


Do you spend time on such forums???

You have to differentiate between educated WN, and uneducated people who are just racists. No person who actually believes in white nationalism or national socialism is going to support someone who furthers our alliance with Israel, and has declared an international campaign against the persecution of homosexuality. The man literally has Jews in his family and has gone to Israel to pray with Jews. What kind of Nazi would like that?

The people who support him who get called WN are uneducated racists, many of whom barely read. Most klansman are a joke. I've talked to several and most are only racist because they've never even met a person of another race or never gotten to know one. They are simply ignorant. They support the Donald as they see him as the savior from Liberalism and immigrant invasion.

The true WN see him as a traitor and want him dead. I've seen both.
 
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