Georgia Sen. Isakson not happy about attacks on John McCain

GoldenBoy89 said:

President Trump's comments on the late Senator John McCain's experiences as a POW continue to be among the worst, most offensive and un-American statements I've ever heard in my life.

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Yet McCain, to my knowledge, never once defended his service record against Trump's absurd criticisms. I guess he figured it stands on it's own merits, if Trump doesn't understand that he is simply expressing his own ignorance. Hard to say what McCain thought of Trump's comments, because he never said much about it, but then again, he didn't have to. Being a POW in Hanoi during the Vietnam War was some pretty tough duty and McCain served with honor and distinction, if Trump doesn't get that, that's his problem.

Good that he's being called out on it.

McCain's politics and mine never lined up completely but he was a decent civil servant and a Christian man who walked the walk, without feeling the need to flaunt piety and self-righteousness as so many American evangelicals have done now days. Disparaging that memory deserves to be called out.

mark kennedy said:

Yet McCain, to my knowledge, never once defended his service record against Trump's absurd criticisms.

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Because it's a sign of strong character to ignore the insignificant.

Weak people, desperate to appear strong, OTOH, will pick fights, swipe at, and "counterpunch" against anything, no matter how trivial.

TLK Valentine said:

Because it's a sign of strong character to ignore the insignificant.

Weak people, desperate to appear strong, OTOH, will pick fights, swipe at, and "counterpunch" against anything, no matter how trivial.

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I don't generally like Republican political agendas, I wasn't a big fan of McCain politically but I could respect him. I can understand Republicans not liking him breaking ranks over the Health care legislation but he was right about that one to, the Senate wasn't even allowed to read it let alone deliberate the issues, McConnell squashed any chance of that with two words, 'I object', I will never have a dimes worth of respect for him after that. McCain may not have had my support or approval for everything he did politically but he earned my respect and in this political climate that distinguishes him above and beyond the likes of Trump by leaps and bounds. Let's break Trumps leg, through him into a POW camp, torture him for weeks and then see what he thinks of people who were captured in Vietnam. I wonder if Trump would have refused to be rotated out because it was against the laws of war, even though his father was the Admiral in charge of the Pacific fleet.

Someone get this man a copy of When Hell Was in Session, by Jeremiah Denton, before he embarrasses himself again.

mark kennedy said:

I don't generally like Republican political agendas, I wasn't a big fan of McCain politically but I could respect him.

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Oh, I ripped into him during his 2008 campaign; I thought he was a total sell-out.

I mean... Palin? Seriously?

But that was on policies, never personal.

I can understand Republicans not liking him breaking ranks over the Health care legislation but he was right about that one to, the Senate wasn't even allowed to read it let alone deliberate the issues, McConnell squashed any chance of that with two words, 'I object', I will never have a dimes worth of respect for him after that.

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I guess I'm ahead of the curve on that one; I had zero respect for McConnell long before that.

TLK Valentine said:

Oh, I ripped into him during his 2008 campaign; I thought he was a total sell-out.

I mean... Palin? Seriously?

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Oh come on, Palin would have been the most adorable, and arguably useless vice President ever. I don't know, maybe Dan Quayle but she wouldn't have been as comical as Quayle.

But that was on policies, never personal.

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It was when he said he would stay in Iraq a hundred years that I was finally over him.

I guess I'm ahead of the curve on that one; I had zero respect for McConnell long before that.

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I had been pretty busy and paying little attention to politics until the 2016 Presidential election. His performance since Trump took office has been inept at best.

mark kennedy said:

Oh come on, Palin would have been the most adorable, and arguably useless vice President ever. I don't know, maybe Dan Quayle but she wouldn't have been as comical as Quayle.

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It takes the concept of throne insurance a bit too far...

It was when he said he would stay in Iraq a hundred years that I was finally over him.

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That was sellout McCain talking, trying to win over the GOP chickenhawks.

I had been pretty busy and paying little attention to politics until the 2016 Presidential election. His performance since Trump took office has been inept at best.

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That was by design -- McConnell has turned obstruction and inaction into an art form.

TLK Valentine said:

I'm sure your view and opinion is that McCain deserved what he most recent got from Donald... but as you say, views and opinions differ.

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You would be mistaken. You don’t know me as well as you think you do. But that would go against your narrative.

hislegacy said:

You would be mistaken. You don’t know me as well as you think you do. But that would go against your narrative.

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Well then, if you believe Donald was out of line, I apologize for misjudging you.

TLK Valentine said:

It takes the concept of throne insurance a bit too far...

That was sellout McCain talking, trying to win over the GOP chickenhawks.

That was by design -- McConnell has turned obstruction and inaction into an art form.

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I actually liked Palin but the way Biden took her apart made me feel sorry for her, not someone I want in the Oval Office. A hundred years of Iraq? That couldn't possibly have anything to do with big fat defense contracts. Oh yea and McConnell, I'm more interested in seeing him removed as Senate Leader then seeing Trump get voted out. I'm praying with all my might, we see both in 2020.

TLK Valentine said:

The issue is now that he continues to do so.

Trump Carries On Criticism Of McCain, As A Republican Calls His Words 'Deplorable'

"I gave him the kind of funeral that he wanted, which as president I had to approve," Trump told a crowd at an Army tank manufacturing plant in Lima. "I don't care about this. I didn't get [a] thank you. That's okay. We sent him on the way, but I wasn't a fan of John McCain."


And of course, lest they appear disloyal, his followers must not only follow suit, but pile on themselves.

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I saw this on the news, the arrogance of the man is unbelievable,

Hank77 said:

I saw this on the news, the arrogance of the man is unbelievable,

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It's actually not... it's pretty typical.

Still haven't heard any of his usual supporters around here call him out.

TLK Valentine said:

Oh, I ripped into him during his 2008 campaign; I thought he was a total sell-out.

I mean... Palin? Seriously?

But that was on policies, never personal.



I guess I'm ahead of the curve on that one; I had zero respect for McConnell long before that.

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I watched a documentary about McCain on PBS several months ago. It was obvious that he regretted choosing Palin as a running mate, because he gave a platform to what turned out to be a basket full of deplorables and crazies. But I think he saw it as a necessary political move and did not appreciate the risk at the time. Probably one of the biggest mistakes of his career.

wing2000 said:

Even if that's true, it in no way justifies Trump's behavior.

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Read the first 45 pages of the Kramer testimony pdf file and you will see that it is definitely NOT true.

An example of the sort of insanity Palin unleashed:


That was probably one of McCain's greatest moments, to talk some sense and dencency to an angry mob. He had to do that time and again after people got fired up by Palin's frankly ignorant demagoguery being placed on the ticket.

TLK Valentine said:

Well then, if you believe Donald was out of line, I apologize for misjudging you.

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I appreciate the apology. If you look I have not defended anyone. Just mentioned that while McCain was indeed a patriot and deserving of respect.

That ring stated again

That doesn’t mean he is above reproach.

hislegacy said:

However, that doesn’t give him a pass if he did some really shady things.

And that is what it is looking like.

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It sounds like you're talking about Trump.

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN said:

It sounds like you're talking about Trump.

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No, First he is not a former serviceman, though I regard him as patriotic, so there is no respect for his service, if he didn't serve.

Secondly, There is no elected official above reproach.

Basil the Great said:

Regardless of one's view of Sen. McCain, attacking a dead man for five days straight is un-Christian, un-Presidential and ill advised from a political standpoint.

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Normally I'd agree with this last line but hey, it's been a weird couple years.