NT verses to churches threaten loss of salvation

BCsenior · Mar 19, 2019

So as to not overwhelm you, I have cut the whole
NT list of warnings in HALF … so, I am ONLY listing
warnings written to the churches:

● Do not be a slave of sin
Romans 6:16, Romans 6:23, James 1:15, 1 John 5:18

● Do not live according to the flesh (carnally-minded)
Romans 8:6, Romans 8:13, Galatians 6:8

● Do not desire to be rich
1 Timothy 6:9

● Do not become entangled in (and overcome by) sin
2 Peter 2:20-21

● Do not be estranged from Christ
Galatians 5:4

● Do not fall from grace
Galatians 5:4

● Do not draw back from the faith to perdition
Hebrews 10:39

● Do not trust in riches, but be rich in good works
1 Timothy 6:18-19

● Do not be blocked from entering the kingdom of God
1 Corinthians 6:9-10, Galatians 5:19-21,
Ephesians 5:3-6

● Do not be disobedient, for it proves unbelief
Hebrews 3:18-19, Hebrews 4:1,11

● Do not be a false teacher, an apostate, etc.
2 Peter 2:12-22, Jude 4,12-13

● Do not have your name blotted out of the Book of Life
Revelation 3:5, Revelation 3:5

● Do not be blocked from entering the New Jerusalem
Revelation 3:12

● Practice righteousness
1 John 3:7-10, 1 John 2:29, Acts 10:35,
1 Corinthians 6:9, Romans 1:18

● Obey Jesus
Romans 6:16, Hebrews 5:9, 1 John 2:3,

● Endure in the faith (conditional “IF” passages)
1 Corinthians 15:2, 2 Corinthians 13:5, Hebrews 2:1-3,
Hebrews 3:14, Colossians 1:21-23, 2 Timothy 2:12

● Repent of your on-going sins
2 Corinthians 7:8-10, 2 Peter 3:9, 1 John 1:9

● Attain holiness
Romans 6:19, Hebrews 12:14

● Continue in the true doctrine
1 Timothy 4:16

● Make your call and election sure
2 Peter 1:10-11

● Be a victorious overcomer
Revelation 2:11
(Revelation 3:21 explains who the overcomers are)

Dave L · Mar 19, 2019

BCsenior said:
So as to not overwhelm you, I have cut the whole
NT list of warnings in HALF … so, I am ONLY listing
warnings written to the churches:

● Do not be a slave of sin
Romans 6:16, Romans 6:23, James 1:15, 1 John 5:18

● Do not live according to the flesh (carnally-minded)
Romans 8:6, Romans 8:13, Galatians 6:8

● Do not desire to be rich
1 Timothy 6:9

● Do not become entangled in (and overcome by) sin
2 Peter 2:20-21

● Do not be estranged from Christ
Galatians 5:4

● Do not fall from grace
Galatians 5:4

● Do not draw back from the faith to perdition
Hebrews 10:39

● Do not trust in riches, but be rich in good works
1 Timothy 6:18-19

● Do not be blocked from entering the kingdom of God
1 Corinthians 6:9-10, Galatians 5:19-21,
Ephesians 5:3-6

● Do not be disobedient, for it proves unbelief
Hebrews 3:18-19, Hebrews 4:1,11

● Do not be a false teacher, an apostate, etc.
2 Peter 2:12-22, Jude 4,12-13

● Do not have your name blotted out of the Book of Life
Revelation 3:5, Revelation 3:5

● Do not be blocked from entering the New Jerusalem
Revelation 3:12

● Practice righteousness
1 John 3:7-10, 1 John 2:29, Acts 10:35,
1 Corinthians 6:9, Romans 1:18

● Obey Jesus
Romans 6:16, Hebrews 5:9, 1 John 2:3,

● Endure in the faith (conditional “IF” passages)
1 Corinthians 15:2, 2 Corinthians 13:5, Hebrews 2:1-3,
Hebrews 3:14, Colossians 1:21-23, 2 Timothy 2:12

● Repent of your on-going sins
2 Corinthians 7:8-10, 2 Peter 3:9, 1 John 1:9

● Attain holiness
Romans 6:19, Hebrews 12:14

● Continue in the true doctrine
1 Timothy 4:16

● Make your call and election sure
2 Peter 1:10-11

● Be a victorious overcomer
Revelation 2:11
(Revelation 3:21 explains who the overcomers are)

These commands keep us in line. But even in the case of the incestuous brother in Corinth, God was taking him home under Satan's destruction rather than him being lost. You can go the easy way or the hard way, but you go regardless.

A Realist · Mar 19, 2019

Another compiled list of what it takes to be a Christian.

Kinda makes you wonder what Christ meant when he said "my yoke is easy and my burden is light."

BCsenior · Mar 19, 2019

Dave L said:
These commands keep us in line. But even in the case of the incestuous brother in Corinth, God was taking him home under Satan's destruction rather than him being lost. You can go the easy way or the hard way, but you go regardless.

Sure, but Paul says the repentance of the brothers
in the church leads to salvation. What's that all about?
If you want, I can quote some commentaries for you.

BCsenior · Mar 19, 2019

A Realist said:
Another compiled list of what it takes to be a Christian.
Kinda makes you wonder what Christ meant when he said "my yoke is easy and my burden is light."

You're a realist all right (der's very few of you around)
... you're actually seeing all of those warnings/threats!

thecolorsblend · Mar 19, 2019

A Realist said:
Another compiled list of what it takes to be a Christian.

Kinda makes you wonder what Christ meant when he said "my yoke is easy and my burden is light."

Also makes you wonder what He meant when He said "unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God".

So there are two things one must do in order to be a Christian.

BCsenior · Mar 19, 2019

thecolorsblend said:
Also makes you wonder what He meant when He said "unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God".
So there are two things one must do in order to be a Christian.

Yes, this is how to start being a Christian.
But, it's not how you end your life as one.

thecolorsblend · Mar 19, 2019

BCsenior said:
Yes, this is how to start being a Christian.
But, it's not how you end your life as one.

The quote goes "unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God".

So I'd say that's about entering the kingdom of God rather than how to "start being a Christian".

BCsenior · Mar 19, 2019

thecolorsblend said:
The quote goes "unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God".
So I'd say that's about entering the kingdom of God rather than how to "start being a Christian".

Yah, you're right ... I wasn't payin' attention.
The blue is the beginning of things required.
You also cannot be a habitual sinner.
And other things as well (check the OP).

SkyWriting · Mar 19, 2019

BCsenior said:
So as to not overwhelm you, I have cut the whole
NT list of warnings in HALF … so, I am ONLY listing
warnings written to the churches:

● Do not be a slave of sin
Romans 6:16, Romans 6:23, James 1:15, 1 John 5:18

● Do not live according to the flesh (carnally-minded)
Romans 8:6, Romans 8:13, Galatians 6:8

● Do not desire to be rich
1 Timothy 6:9

● Do not become entangled in (and overcome by) sin
2 Peter 2:20-21

● Do not be estranged from Christ
Galatians 5:4

● Do not fall from grace
Galatians 5:4

● Do not draw back from the faith to perdition
Hebrews 10:39

● Do not trust in riches, but be rich in good works
1 Timothy 6:18-19

● Do not be blocked from entering the kingdom of God
1 Corinthians 6:9-10, Galatians 5:19-21,
Ephesians 5:3-6

● Do not be disobedient, for it proves unbelief
Hebrews 3:18-19, Hebrews 4:1,11

● Do not be a false teacher, an apostate, etc.
2 Peter 2:12-22, Jude 4,12-13

● Do not have your name blotted out of the Book of Life
Revelation 3:5, Revelation 3:5

● Do not be blocked from entering the New Jerusalem
Revelation 3:12

● Practice righteousness
1 John 3:7-10, 1 John 2:29, Acts 10:35,
1 Corinthians 6:9, Romans 1:18

● Obey Jesus
Romans 6:16, Hebrews 5:9, 1 John 2:3,

● Endure in the faith (conditional “IF” passages)
1 Corinthians 15:2, 2 Corinthians 13:5, Hebrews 2:1-3,
Hebrews 3:14, Colossians 1:21-23, 2 Timothy 2:12

● Repent of your on-going sins
2 Corinthians 7:8-10, 2 Peter 3:9, 1 John 1:9

● Attain holiness
Romans 6:19, Hebrews 12:14

● Continue in the true doctrine
1 Timothy 4:16

● Make your call and election sure
2 Peter 1:10-11

● Be a victorious overcomer
Revelation 2:11
(Revelation 3:21 explains who the overcomers are)

Nobody has provided evidence that the epistles
were not customized for particular situations of the day.

SkyWriting · Mar 19, 2019

BCsenior said:
So as to not overwhelm you, I have cut the whole
NT list of warnings in HALF … so, I am ONLY listing
warnings written to the churches:

Loss of salvation seems to be the holding of the Old Covenant.
People who believe in God, but choose legalism over Grace.
They can be gently brought back to the Grace of Jesus.

Dave L · Mar 20, 2019

BCsenior said:
Sure, but Paul says the repentance of the brothers
in the church leads to salvation. What's that all about?
If you want, I can quote some commentaries for you.

Repentance = salvation as a work in process. You are not being saved if you are not repenting and living a holy life.

BCsenior · Mar 20, 2019

Dave L said:
You are not being saved, if you are not repenting and living a holy life.

AMEN, brother!

BCsenior · Mar 24, 2019

All of the NT verses in the OP are warnings to BACs
that they can lose their salvation ...
IF they do NOT do their part in the salvation process,
which comes to a conclusion upon their deaths!

True saving belief = enduring faith +
enduring trust + enduring obedience +
good works + no habitual (unrepentant) sinning

Dave L · Mar 24, 2019

BCsenior said:
All of the NT verses in the OP are warnings to BACs
that they can lose their salvation ...
IF they do NOT do their part in the salvation process,
which comes to a conclusion upon their deaths!

True saving belief = enduring faith +
enduring trust + enduring obedience +
good works + no habitual (unrepentant) sinning

= salvation by works. The point is, we prove our election by good works. And have no faith if good works are not present.

BCsenior · Mar 24, 2019

Dave L said:
= salvation by works.
The point is, we prove our election by good works.
And have no faith, if good works are not present.

Yes, and how about going a step further?
Loss of salvation, IF no works!

Dave L · Mar 24, 2019

BCsenior said:
Yes, and how about? ... Loss of salvation, IF no works!

Works do not save, they confirm salvation.

BCsenior · Mar 24, 2019

Dave L said:
Works do not save, they confirm salvation.

You said that already!
How about ...
No works proves no salvation!

BCsenior · Mar 30, 2019

So far, my many years of in-depth study
of the whole of the NT has led me to believe:

True saving belief includes
● God knowing you ... approves of you
● loving God ... resulting in obedience
● knowing God ... includes obedience
● good works toward your fellow man
● no habitual sinning ... w/o repentance
● enduring faith and trust until the end

DM25 · Mar 31, 2019

Dave L said:
Repentance = salvation as a work in process. You are not being saved if you are not repenting and living a holy life.

No, that is unbiblical. Salvation is an event, not a process. Sanctification is a process, and a result of salvation.

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