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My pastor said we should be as trees, rooted and drawing nourishment. Not chaff blowing away.

He used an example of someone, just divorced, who wanted to go off grid and live traveling on his boat, but he counseled him against it.

I just heard a podcast today saying the same thing. Christians aren't supposed to drift like chaff. They need to be involved and rooted somewhere.

I'm a true loner. I go to church once in awhile. But I'm happiest not being around people. I can be friendly, but would rather be isolated. I'm retired now and enjoy staying in or traveling around. I read the bible, pray, and listen to podcasts.
I don't actively seek out to witness to people, but I try to be lit by the light so people can aske me why I'm so happy and positive...then I can give witness.

Is being a loner going against God?

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Is being a loner going against God?

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Some people need more time and space than others. Perhaps there is a balance to be struck though, to fellowship somewhere regularly enough to be a part of it, but also to have your own space. God Bless :)
 
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In the old testament there were prophets and they lived outside the city, it doesn't mean you're a prophet ... but it illustrates that God doesn't mind loners.
 
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My pastor said we should be as trees, rooted and drawing nourishment. Not chaff blowing away.

He used an example of someone, just divorced, who wanted to go off grid and live traveling on his boat, but he counseled him against it.

I just heard a podcast today saying the same thing. Christians aren't supposed to drift like chaff. They need to be involved and rooted somewhere.

I'm a true loner. I go to church once in awhile. But I'm happiest not being around people. I can be friendly, but would rather be isolated. I'm retired now and enjoy staying in or traveling around. I read the bible, pray, and listen to podcasts.
I don't actively seek out to witness to people, but I try to be lit by the light so people can aske me why I'm so happy and positive...then I can give witness.

Is being a loner going against God?

Thanks!


Saint Anthony of The Desert The Father Of Christian Monasticism was a Christian Loner
(251-356 A.D.) :



 
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I guess it all depends on what you do with your interactions, and if they even happen with much frequency... But what about all the younger Christians who could use a godly example? And what about the wisdom you could share with other believers? To isolate yourself from the Church IS unbiblical according to Hebrews 10:25

I'm a loner, too, and there have been many times I really didn't feel like going to Church. So why did I go? Because those few interactions I had with other Believers was enough to fill me with joy and and rejoice in Jesus once again. After being at a workplace of chronic drama and bold, immoral living and gossiping about others all week, I really need that breath of fresh air. I know some people at church are faking it, but certainly not everyone is and I can tell those who are genuinely joyful and seeking Jesus.

Because you're alone a lot, maybe you don't feel the need for that spiritual recharge. In that case, I would say you really need to get out more because the world is a mess and it's wrong of you to lock yourself up and pretend it isn't there. Let yourself get a little discharged for Jesus' sake.

I say this all with respect.
 
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My pastor said we should be as trees, rooted and drawing nourishment. Not chaff blowing away.

He used an example of someone, just divorced, who wanted to go off grid and live traveling on his boat, but he counseled him against it.

I just heard a podcast today saying the same thing. Christians aren't supposed to drift like chaff. They need to be involved and rooted somewhere.

I'm a true loner. I go to church once in awhile. But I'm happiest not being around people. I can be friendly, but would rather be isolated. I'm retired now and enjoy staying in or traveling around. I read the bible, pray, and listen to podcasts.
I don't actively seek out to witness to people, but I try to be lit by the light so people can aske me why I'm so happy and positive...then I can give witness.

Is being a loner going against God?

Thanks!

I think as long as you are connected to a Spiritual community in some way it is ok. Even being a part of this forum could be considered community. Community can help you in times of trouble, you can get and give advice to help you in your walk with Jesus. But be open to God's leading, he may want you involved in a physical church, where you can grow to engage in way you have not in the past.
 
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My pastor said we should be as trees, rooted and drawing nourishment. Not chaff blowing away.

He used an example of someone, just divorced, who wanted to go off grid and live traveling on his boat, but he counseled him against it.

I just heard a podcast today saying the same thing. Christians aren't supposed to drift like chaff. They need to be involved and rooted somewhere.

I'm a true loner. I go to church once in awhile. But I'm happiest not being around people. I can be friendly, but would rather be isolated. I'm retired now and enjoy staying in or traveling around. I read the bible, pray, and listen to podcasts.
I don't actively seek out to witness to people, but I try to be lit by the light so people can aske me why I'm so happy and positive...then I can give witness.

Is being a loner going against God?

Thanks!
Chaff is the wrong analogy. Chaff are those who are blown about by every wind of doctrine and are rootless in God's Word.
We are pilgrims,strangers and peculiar people in this corrupt generation.
 
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My pastor said we should be as trees, rooted and drawing nourishment. Not chaff blowing away.

He used an example of someone, just divorced, who wanted to go off grid and live traveling on his boat, but he counseled him against it.

I just heard a podcast today saying the same thing. Christians aren't supposed to drift like chaff. They need to be involved and rooted somewhere.

I'm a true loner. I go to church once in awhile. But I'm happiest not being around people. I can be friendly, but would rather be isolated. I'm retired now and enjoy staying in or traveling around. I read the bible, pray, and listen to podcasts.
I don't actively seek out to witness to people, but I try to be lit by the light so people can aske me why I'm so happy and positive...then I can give witness.

Is being a loner going against God?

Thanks!

Hi Kenyon Ledford & welcome to CF!

Question: "What is wrong with being a solo Christian? Can the Christian life be lived solo?"

Answer:
“I don’t like church.” “I can worship God on my own. Why do I need other people?” Do we need to be involved with other Christians in a local church in order to effectively serve God? After all, salvation is an individual decision. Why afterwards must we involve other people? What’s wrong with flying solo?

It is true that a relationship with God is an intensely personal decision. No one can give us the faith to believe except God (Ephesians 2:8–9; John 6:44). Church activity does nothing to impress God or earn His favor. He loves and favors us on the basis of our faith in the shed blood of His Son for our sin (Ephesians 1:7; Colossians 1:13–14). Obedience and surrender to the Holy Spirit are individual decisions that cannot be made for us by others. God will hold each of us accountable for our stewardship of all He has given us (2 Corinthians 5:10; Matthew 16:27; Revelation 22:12).

However, when we enter the family of God by being “born again” (John 3:3), we become “new creatures” (2 Corinthians 5:17). When we experience the new birth, we are like snakes shedding our old skin. Our spirits inflate with the presence of God, and that new Spirit crowds out the old ways. Our desires change. Our outlook changes. Where we once lived only to satisfy ourselves, we now have a longing to please Jesus and glorify Him (1 Corinthians 10:31). If no change occurs after a supposed conversion, it is likely that no regeneration occurred. C. S. Lewis said, “If conversion makes no improvements in a man’s outward actions then I think his ‘conversion’ was largely imaginary.” Part of the change is a desire to be with others who also love and serve Jesus. Being a “solo Christian” is not the norm.

There are several reasons why every born-again believer needs to be involved with other Christians. First of all, the New Testament is filled with admonitions to “love one another”—the “one another” refers to fellow Christians (John 13:34–35; 1 Peter 1:22; 1 John 4:11). Love is not just a noun; it is an action verb (see 1 Corinthians 13:1–8). We are to actively pursue ways in which we can demonstrate unselfish love for each other. “Solo Christians” who avoid association with other believers cannot do that.

Second, most of the books of the New Testament are letters written to churches, not to solo Christians. Although God loves us as individuals, we are collectively referred to in Scripture as “the church” (Ephesians 5:25, 32). The Epistles, addressed to groups of Christians, include detailed instructions about how members are to conduct themselves within the group. The letters were to be read corporately and are best understood in the context of a church working together. As a unit, Christians are the “bride of Christ” (2 Corinthians 11:2; Revelation 19:7). Most of the New Testament is instruction on how the “bride” can ready herself for her groom, Christ.

We are also called the “body of Christ.” This body has many parts, just as a physical body does (1 Corinthians 12:27). One body part cannot exist on its own. The heart cannot go solo; the chin cannot survive on its own. Any one part needs the participation of all the other parts in order to function successfully. The same is true for the members of the body of Christ. Jesus equips each one with certain gifts that He wants us to use to benefit the whole (see 1 Corinthians 12:12–30). Romans 12:4–5 says, “For just as each of us has one body with many members, and these members do not all have the same function, so in Christ we, though many, form one body, and each member belongs to all the others.” There is no room in this passage for solo Christians.

A third reason solo Christianity is not a good idea is that we need the encouragement and accountability provided by our brothers and sisters in Christ. Often, those who shun involvement in a local church live with major blind spots and spiritual strongholds that they are only mildly aware of. Because they do not make themselves accountable to other believers, solo Christians have no one to strengthen their weaknesses. Flaws such as pride, greed, envy, anger, and a judgmental spirit often grow unchecked in the heart of one who rejects spiritual oversight from those who could gently guide him back to obedience (Galatians 6:1).

The solo Christian is a loner also misses out on preaching, corporate worship times, and opportunities to serve. Proverbs 27:17 says, “As iron sharpens iron, so one person sharpens another.” We grow sharper as useful tools for God when we learn from each other, pray for each other, and invest ourselves in the lives of others. Local churches offer many opportunities in which to use our gifts to serve others and glorify God. Avoiding such connections weakens the solo Christian as well as the local body.

Finally, we have a powerful enemy who “walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour” (1 Peter 5:8). The lion metaphor works in Scripture because God’s people are often referred to as sheep (Psalm 95:7; 100:3; 1 Peter 2:25; Mark 6:34). As any good shepherd knows, the sheep are safest when they stay with the flock, under the watch-care of a kind shepherd. First Peter 5:2 exhorts pastors with this: “Be shepherds of God’s flock that is under your care, watching over them.” A pastor is called the shepherd of the flock. It is his responsibility before God to nurture, protect, and encourage the sheep God has entrusted to him. A lone sheep, separated from the flock, is vulnerable to the enemy. Wolves and lions don’t usually attack a healthy flock. They wait for one who lags behind, isolated from the shepherd and the safety of the fold.

Christians need to involve themselves with other believers in order to remain healthy and productive. Satan cannot steal a soul that belongs to God (John 10:29), but he can render our lives useless for the kingdom by convincing us that we don’t need fellowship, spiritual encouragement, or challenge from anyone else. He likes to stir up trouble, bitterness, disappointment, pride, and a critical spirit to keep lone sheep away from the flock (Ephesians 4:30–31; 1 Peter 2:1; Colossians 3:5–10). Then he attacks them with discouragement, temptation, and deception to eliminate any heavenly treasure that loner could have stored up for himself (Matthew 6:20; 10:41; Luke 12:33; Revelation 22:12). We will spend all eternity worshiping with other redeemed saints of God. We might as well learn to enjoy it now.

www.gotquestions.org/solo-Christian.html
 
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Chaff is the wrong analogy. Chaff are those who are blown about by every wind of doctrine and are rootless in God's Word.
We are pilgrims,strangers and peculiar people in this corrupt generation.

That is beautiful, thanks. Ever hear the song "I am a Pilgrim"? Doc Watson's version is probably best
 
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Hi Kenyon Ledford & welcome to CF!

Question: "What is wrong with being a solo Christian? Can the Christian life be lived solo?"

Answer:
“I don’t like church.” “I can worship God on my own. Why do I need other people?” Do we need to be involved with other Christians in a local church in order to effectively serve God? After all, salvation is an individual decision. Why afterwards must we involve other people? What’s wrong with flying solo?

It is true that a relationship with God is an intensely personal decision. No one can give us the faith to believe except God (Ephesians 2:8–9; John 6:44). Church activity does nothing to impress God or earn His favor. He loves and favors us on the basis of our faith in the shed blood of His Son for our sin (Ephesians 1:7; Colossians 1:13–14). Obedience and surrender to the Holy Spirit are individual decisions that cannot be made for us by others. God will hold each of us accountable for our stewardship of all He has given us (2 Corinthians 5:10; Matthew 16:27; Revelation 22:12).

However, when we enter the family of God by being “born again” (John 3:3), we become “new creatures” (2 Corinthians 5:17). When we experience the new birth, we are like snakes shedding our old skin. Our spirits inflate with the presence of God, and that new Spirit crowds out the old ways. Our desires change. Our outlook changes. Where we once lived only to satisfy ourselves, we now have a longing to please Jesus and glorify Him (1 Corinthians 10:31). If no change occurs after a supposed conversion, it is likely that no regeneration occurred. C. S. Lewis said, “If conversion makes no improvements in a man’s outward actions then I think his ‘conversion’ was largely imaginary.” Part of the change is a desire to be with others who also love and serve Jesus. Being a “solo Christian” is not the norm.

There are several reasons why every born-again believer needs to be involved with other Christians. First of all, the New Testament is filled with admonitions to “love one another”—the “one another” refers to fellow Christians (John 13:34–35; 1 Peter 1:22; 1 John 4:11). Love is not just a noun; it is an action verb (see 1 Corinthians 13:1–8). We are to actively pursue ways in which we can demonstrate unselfish love for each other. “Solo Christians” who avoid association with other believers cannot do that.

Second, most of the books of the New Testament are letters written to churches, not to solo Christians. Although God loves us as individuals, we are collectively referred to in Scripture as “the church” (Ephesians 5:25, 32). The Epistles, addressed to groups of Christians, include detailed instructions about how members are to conduct themselves within the group. The letters were to be read corporately and are best understood in the context of a church working together. As a unit, Christians are the “bride of Christ” (2 Corinthians 11:2; Revelation 19:7). Most of the New Testament is instruction on how the “bride” can ready herself for her groom, Christ.

We are also called the “body of Christ.” This body has many parts, just as a physical body does (1 Corinthians 12:27). One body part cannot exist on its own. The heart cannot go solo; the chin cannot survive on its own. Any one part needs the participation of all the other parts in order to function successfully. The same is true for the members of the body of Christ. Jesus equips each one with certain gifts that He wants us to use to benefit the whole (see 1 Corinthians 12:12–30). Romans 12:4–5 says, “For just as each of us has one body with many members, and these members do not all have the same function, so in Christ we, though many, form one body, and each member belongs to all the others.” There is no room in this passage for solo Christians.

A third reason solo Christianity is not a good idea is that we need the encouragement and accountability provided by our brothers and sisters in Christ. Often, those who shun involvement in a local church live with major blind spots and spiritual strongholds that they are only mildly aware of. Because they do not make themselves accountable to other believers, solo Christians have no one to strengthen their weaknesses. Flaws such as pride, greed, envy, anger, and a judgmental spirit often grow unchecked in the heart of one who rejects spiritual oversight from those who could gently guide him back to obedience (Galatians 6:1).

The solo Christian is a loner also misses out on preaching, corporate worship times, and opportunities to serve. Proverbs 27:17 says, “As iron sharpens iron, so one person sharpens another.” We grow sharper as useful tools for God when we learn from each other, pray for each other, and invest ourselves in the lives of others. Local churches offer many opportunities in which to use our gifts to serve others and glorify God. Avoiding such connections weakens the solo Christian as well as the local body.

Finally, we have a powerful enemy who “walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour” (1 Peter 5:8). The lion metaphor works in Scripture because God’s people are often referred to as sheep (Psalm 95:7; 100:3; 1 Peter 2:25; Mark 6:34). As any good shepherd knows, the sheep are safest when they stay with the flock, under the watch-care of a kind shepherd. First Peter 5:2 exhorts pastors with this: “Be shepherds of God’s flock that is under your care, watching over them.” A pastor is called the shepherd of the flock. It is his responsibility before God to nurture, protect, and encourage the sheep God has entrusted to him. A lone sheep, separated from the flock, is vulnerable to the enemy. Wolves and lions don’t usually attack a healthy flock. They wait for one who lags behind, isolated from the shepherd and the safety of the fold.

Christians need to involve themselves with other believers in order to remain healthy and productive. Satan cannot steal a soul that belongs to God (John 10:29), but he can render our lives useless for the kingdom by convincing us that we don’t need fellowship, spiritual encouragement, or challenge from anyone else. He likes to stir up trouble, bitterness, disappointment, pride, and a critical spirit to keep lone sheep away from the flock (Ephesians 4:30–31; 1 Peter 2:1; Colossians 3:5–10). Then he attacks them with discouragement, temptation, and deception to eliminate any heavenly treasure that loner could have stored up for himself (Matthew 6:20; 10:41; Luke 12:33; Revelation 22:12). We will spend all eternity worshiping with other redeemed saints of God. We might as well learn to enjoy it now.

www.gotquestions.org/solo-Christian.html

Excellent, and I'll refer to this more than once. I wasn't so much saying I am not going to go to church, as saying if I want to hobo around or drift on a boat I think I can still be quite close to God doing so. Indeed, when you're alone you tend to read more and listen and talk to God more. I know I'm not talking to Satan, except to say, "Go clear it with God first and let me know how that goes for you." or something like that.
But yes, being around others in Christ can only strengthen my growth.
 
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That is beautiful, thanks. Ever hear the song "I am a Pilgrim"? Doc Watson's version is probably best
Nope, can't say I have, but I'll look it up. :)

Update, yup, it was good and got better as it went along.
 
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My pastor said we should be as trees, rooted and drawing nourishment. Not chaff blowing away.

He used an example of someone, just divorced, who wanted to go off grid and live traveling on his boat, but he counseled him against it.

I just heard a podcast today saying the same thing. Christians aren't supposed to drift like chaff. They need to be involved and rooted somewhere.

I'm a true loner. I go to church once in awhile. But I'm happiest not being around people. I can be friendly, but would rather be isolated. I'm retired now and enjoy staying in or traveling around. I read the bible, pray, and listen to podcasts.
I don't actively seek out to witness to people, but I try to be lit by the light so people can aske me why I'm so happy and positive...then I can give witness.

Is being a loner going against God?

Thanks!

I don't think so, but I could be wrong about that.

I will say that you should go to church. Does that mean you have to be captain social? No. But you still need to go to church. Do you have be the center of the party at church? No. But you still need to go to church.

You can still go home, and be isolated and traveling. Knock yourself out.... but..... you still NEED to go to church.

You can do both.
 
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Please "do not forsake the gathering of brethren". Christianity is a shared lifestyle, you can't truly love without being available for God to use you especially where other believers are gathered. In Catholic monasteries, you find monks, hermits, and priests. No one occupies a monastery alone even hermits belong to congregations. God bless
 
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