Did Jews alter our Modern Bible in order to deny Christ, and to exaggerate their victimhood?

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Did any of you see the following video under the same title as the title of this thread?


I watched this and did some research in our own SDA Bible Commentary that contains the same information about the missing 100 years, etc.

Please watch the video in its entirety noting that there is a short pause in the video as the video actually contains two parts in the one video.
 

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Ironically, there's a conspiracy theory as well about the Saud tribe centuries earlier (that eventually became the Saudi Royal Family).

That the Sauds are originally Jewish spies who created a radicalized / bastardized / corrupted form of Islam that spread this corrupted religion through violence and acts of terror (centuries ago).

There are many Muslims seem open to the possibility (many of them hates the Saudi Royal Family). There are many things that connect them to the possibility, even the logos and numerics used by the government seem to connect Saudi to the Jews or to Zionism.

It may seem like a very crazy and outlandish idea at first....

But if you're bent on global conquest, it would have been a very very smart move!

Behind the fall of every great empire in the world and the most succesful invaders in history are nomadic tribes. The Mongols are nomads and so are Jews!

It would be difficult to determine how many of these are Jewish campaigns but one thing we know at one point, everyone feared the Jews!
 
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Did any of you see the following video under the same title as the title of this thread?


I watched this and did some research in our own SDA Bible Commentary that contains the same information about the missing 100 years, etc.

Please watch the video in its entirety noting that there is a short pause in the video as the video actually contains two parts in the one video.
Interesting analysis.

I, for one, would be glad to know that the Hebrews were enslaved in Egypt for less time than 430 years ...
 
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This brings up another fly in the ointment... if the Jews were only in Egypt for far less time than 400 years, how could there have been the number we all were taught were in the exodus? Exodus 12:37 says there were 600,000 Israelite men alone, not counting the women, children and the mixed multitude. How does 75 turn in to over 1 million in 100 or so years?
 
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As it doesn't start at the beginning when I click on it, if that also happens to you, please watch it from the very beginning.
:wave: I enjoyed the video very much, thanks for posting it. I wasn't aware of this.

This may be of interest to you as well. Reading Dr. Kennicott's explanation, which is the same as the video, except for this one addition, as it is written in Adam Clarke's Commentary. Kennicott wrote in the 1700's.
Exodus 12 Clarke's Commentary

This is just a small portion of what is in the commentary...
The Samaritan Pentateuch, in all its manuscripts and printed copies, reads the place thus: -

Umoshab beney Yishrael veabotham asher yashebu baarets Cenaan, ubaarets mitsraim sheloshim shanah vearba meoth shanah.

"Now the sojourning of the children of Israel, and of their fathers, which they sojourned in the land of Canaan and in the land of Egypt, was 430 years." This same sum is given by St. Paul, Galatians 3:17, who reckons from the promise made to Abraham, when God commanded him to go to Canaan, to the giving of the law, which soon followed the departure from Egypt; and this chronology of the apostle is concordant with the Samaritan Pentateuch, which, by preserving the two passages, they and their fathers, and in the land of Canaan, which are lost out of the present copies of the Hebrew text, has rescued this passage from all obscurity and contradiction. It may be necessary to observe that the Alexandrian copy of the Septuagint has the same reading as that in the Samaritan. [Emphasis mine]

I haven't looked up the scriptures about the ages that are wrong by 100 yrs.
 
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Exodus 12:37 says there were 600,000 Israelite men alone, not counting the women, children and the mixed multitude. How does 75 turn in to over 1 million in 100 or so years?
That population growth would have 215 years to occur, as it is from the time that Jacob's family moved into Egypt.

We, in America, have grown to over 300 million ... in 400 years ...
 
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That population growth would have 215 years to occur, as it is from the time that Jacob's family moved into Egypt.

We, in America, have grown to over 300 million ... in 400 years ...
Through immigration... not natural birthrate.
 
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Through immigration... not natural birthrate.
Immigration only accounts for a portion of America's growth ... to a nation of 300+ million ...

In absolute numbers, the United States has a larger immigrant population than any other country, with 47 million immigrants as of 2015. This represents 19.1% of the 244 million international migrants worldwide, and 14.4% of the U.S. population.
 
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This brings up another fly in the ointment... if the Jews were only in Egypt for far less time than 400 years, how could there have been the number we all were taught were in the exodus? Exodus 12:37 says there were 600,000 Israelite men alone, not counting the women, children and the mixed multitude. How does 75 turn in to over 1 million in 100 or so years?

I've looked at this and run the numbers a few years back. it doesn't take a huge birthrate for the population to expand to the Biblical numbers over that time period. I had already run the numbers on the year bit and come up with the same numbers the video has and I was curious about the increase in population of the Israelites so I started playing with birthrates (how many children each couple had) and it didn't take lots of kids to reach an estimated 1.2 million Israelites by the time they left Egypt. I don't remember the exact numbers any more but when you consider that Jacob had 12 sons think how fast the numbers would grow. My memory is hazy but I think I reached the numbers the Bible gives using 5 or 6 children per couple. Look at the geneologies of the Bible and you'll find a lot of names listed that had more than that so it isn't hard to imagine the population explosion that the Israelites achieved.

If you take the 12 sons of Jacob and estimate 5 sons each that gives you sixty in one generation. Now multiple that 60 by 5 and you have 300 in two generations. Multiple that 300 by 5 and you have 1500 sons in only 3 generations. That is explosive population growth and it gets even faster as you go deeper into the generations. If you run the numbers that comes to 937,500 in just 7 generations. At 20 years per generation that is only 140 years.
 
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If you use a standard growth equation, the numbers seem plausible.

P = p(1+r)^t, where P is the end population, p is the base population, r is the rate of growth, and t is the number of time periods. In this case,

P = 75(1+r)^215

Plugging in r = 4.5% yields a P of 966,000. An r of 5% brings 2.7 Million.

Back then they didn't have our current Western mindset, that children are expensive burdens. The more hands, the stronger the family, and the more secure the parents in old age. Barrenness was considered a disgrace, while polygamy probably ensured that most people got married. Marriage was even a requirement for the Sanhedrin, IIRC. So the thrust was definitely to marry and have kids - many kids. Also, there probably was some truth behind the Egyptian midwives' excuse to Pharaoh that the Israelite women were so hardy that they gave birth before the midwives would arrive, otherwise they wouldn't have gotten away with it.
 
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If you use a standard growth equation, the numbers seem plausible.

P = p(1+r)^t, where P is the end population, p is the base population, r is the rate of growth, and t is the number of time periods. In this case,

P = 75(1+r)^215

Plugging in r = 4.5% yields a P of 966,000. An r of 5% brings 2.7 Million.

Back then they didn't have our current Western mindset, that children are expensive burdens. The more hands, the stronger the family, and the more secure the parents in old age. Barrenness was considered a disgrace, while polygamy probably ensured that most people got married. Marriage was even a requirement for the Sanhedrin, IIRC. So the thrust was definitely to marry and have kids - many kids. Also, there probably was some truth behind the Egyptian midwives' excuse to Pharaoh that the Israelite women were so hardy that they gave birth before the midwives would arrive, otherwise they wouldn't have gotten away with it.

Thanks for posting the actual formula.

All I wanted to do was show that just even looking at the basic number of 5 children per family, without figuring infant morality rates, accidental death, etc... that the numbers grow exponentially making the Biblical record easily achievable over the given time period.

What I did to start with was take the total number of men and figure at least 5 individuals per family which gives us 3,000,000 people including women and children. As your numbers from the actual population growth formula show it was easily achievable.
 
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Did any of you see the following video under the same title as the title of this thread?


I watched this and did some research in our own SDA Bible Commentary that contains the same information about the missing 100 years, etc.

Please watch the video in its entirety noting that there is a short pause in the video as the video actually contains two parts in the one video.
Thanks for this....very interesting......
 
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Did any of you see the following video under the same title as the title of this thread?


I watched this and did some research in our own SDA Bible Commentary that contains the same information about the missing 100 years, etc.

Please watch the video in its entirety noting that there is a short pause in the video as the video actually contains two parts in the one video.
eastern philosophies have different ways to tell accounts that don't fit our western obsession for details and accuracy. look at the creation account, the light was created before the sun. There is a value implicit in the number that makes other details more flexible. What is important is to find out the value that is being spoken through the text rather than being stuck at the number. It may very well be simply an emphasis tactic to express they were there for a long time. if Jews were trying to deny Christ there would be far better accounts to pick at then this one.
 
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