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I think I’m posting in vaguely the right place. I didn’t want to post more denominationally because I wanted a wider variety of views.

I’m after a nice new Study Bible. I’m not fixed on which translation more on that I want it to be aimed at someone who’s never really done bible study before. The long and short version of it is a couple of my friends are struggling finding a house group at their churches (one doesn’t really have any for non pensioners and the other the theme is more social than fellowship) so we’re going to try Bible study together. We’re all at different knowledge and experience levels, but they both admit they’ve never done any real bible study before, only bible reading.

We want to all go and get the same bible for doing this as it makes discussion a bit easier. I’m leaning against the KJV for no other reason than one of my friends has quite bad dyslexia and I’m not sure if that would make it more difficult (anyone with experience feel free to correct me).

Any and all ideas gratefully received. Also any ideas on how we do said bible study are appreciated. We’ve got a plan (partly courtesy of a friend of mine who hosts a bible study) but I’m definitely open to any ideas :)
 

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I think I’m posting in vaguely the right place. I didn’t want to post more denominationally because I wanted a wider variety of views.

I’m after a nice new Study Bible. I’m not fixed on which translation more on that I want it to be aimed at someone who’s never really done bible study before. The long and short version of it is a couple of my friends are struggling finding a house group at their churches (one doesn’t really have any for non pensioners and the other the theme is more social than fellowship) so we’re going to try Bible study together. We’re all at different knowledge and experience levels, but they both admit they’ve never done any real bible study before, only bible reading.

We want to all go and get the same bible for doing this as it makes discussion a bit easier. I’m leaning against the KJV for no other reason than one of my friends has quite bad dyslexia and I’m not sure if that would make it more difficult (anyone with experience feel free to correct me).

Any and all ideas gratefully received. Also any ideas on how we do said bible study are appreciated. We’ve got a plan (partly courtesy of a friend of mine who hosts a bible study) but I’m definitely open to any ideas :)

ESV is quite easy to read, without it's being too loose a translation. A lot of attention was paid to making it readable apparently..
 
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I think I’m posting in vaguely the right place. I didn’t want to post more denominationally because I wanted a wider variety of views.

I’m after a nice new Study Bible. I’m not fixed on which translation more on that I want it to be aimed at someone who’s never really done bible study before. The long and short version of it is a couple of my friends are struggling finding a house group at their churches (one doesn’t really have any for non pensioners and the other the theme is more social than fellowship) so we’re going to try Bible study together. We’re all at different knowledge and experience levels, but they both admit they’ve never done any real bible study before, only bible reading.

We want to all go and get the same bible for doing this as it makes discussion a bit easier. I’m leaning against the KJV for no other reason than one of my friends has quite bad dyslexia and I’m not sure if that would make it more difficult (anyone with experience feel free to correct me).

Any and all ideas gratefully received. Also any ideas on how we do said bible study are appreciated. We’ve got a plan (partly courtesy of a friend of mine who hosts a bible study) but I’m definitely open to any ideas :)

I recommend the C.I. Scofield Study Bible. Either the 1909-1917 edition or the 1967 edition. It is dispensational and premillenial which I believe you must understand to understand the Bible.

I always use the King James Version as I believe it is the best and safest.

In my opinion, for new believers, I would always begin with the Gospel of John.

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I think I’m posting in vaguely the right place. I didn’t want to post more denominationally because I wanted a wider variety of views.

I’m after a nice new Study Bible. I’m not fixed on which translation more on that I want it to be aimed at someone who’s never really done bible study before. The long and short version of it is a couple of my friends are struggling finding a house group at their churches (one doesn’t really have any for non pensioners and the other the theme is more social than fellowship) so we’re going to try Bible study together. We’re all at different knowledge and experience levels, but they both admit they’ve never done any real bible study before, only bible reading.

We want to all go and get the same bible for doing this as it makes discussion a bit easier. I’m leaning against the KJV for no other reason than one of my friends has quite bad dyslexia and I’m not sure if that would make it more difficult (anyone with experience feel free to correct me).

Any and all ideas gratefully received. Also any ideas on how we do said bible study are appreciated. We’ve got a plan (partly courtesy of a friend of mine who hosts a bible study) but I’m definitely open to any ideas :)
I have been using the RSV for several years now and am happy with it. I use a variant called the RSVCE, a Catholic edition that has all of the books. Or an Oxford Study Bible with the base RSV text. Or the Ignatius Study Bible with the RSVCE text and notes from a Catholic perspective. That's probably the best for me, but it is so recently published I got it a few books at a time in booklet form. I think they have it finished now. The notes are IMHO excellent, faithful, helpful.

The basic RSV text a tiny bit dated, and has it's flaws as all translations do, but it is readable and in standard modern enough English. There is even an RSVCE2 which has updated what anachronistic words are in the basic RSV. It's a solid translation, maintaining most of the familiarity built into the RSV but without the anachronism. The anachronism issue is why I would avoid the KJV.

I hear good things about the ESV
 
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I think I’m posting in vaguely the right place. I didn’t want to post more denominationally because I wanted a wider variety of views.

I’m after a nice new Study Bible. I’m not fixed on which translation more on that I want it to be aimed at someone who’s never really done bible study before. The long and short version of it is a couple of my friends are struggling finding a house group at their churches (one doesn’t really have any for non pensioners and the other the theme is more social than fellowship) so we’re going to try Bible study together. We’re all at different knowledge and experience levels, but they both admit they’ve never done any real bible study before, only bible reading.

We want to all go and get the same bible for doing this as it makes discussion a bit easier. I’m leaning against the KJV for no other reason than one of my friends has quite bad dyslexia and I’m not sure if that would make it more difficult (anyone with experience feel free to correct me).

Any and all ideas gratefully received. Also any ideas on how we do said bible study are appreciated. We’ve got a plan (partly courtesy of a friend of mine who hosts a bible study) but I’m definitely open to any ideas :)

For accuracy I would recommend a KJV Bible, but the KJV can have hard to understand 1600's English. So I would recommend a KJV Parallel Bible. An AMP/KJV (Large Print) Parallel Bible is good. Granted, it is not a study Bible, but I have discovered that many study Bibles out there have their own thoughts and agendas that sometimes run contrary to what the Bible is saying. The Jesus Centered Bible is great because it focuses on Jesus. It's a great starting place. But yeah, I would compare it with the KJV.
 
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’m after a nice new Study Bible. I’m not fixed on which translation more on that I want it to be aimed at someone who’s never really done bible study before.
Check out your Christian bookshop or ask around at church to see if someone has one they can lend.

Don't worryabout all having the same version as different versions help bring out the meaning.
 
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My thoughts? Jesus said.. where two or three are gathered together in my name I am there.. SO... have Him sit down and talk.. YEAH HELLO! ..just playing..

Ever see the site "biblehub.com/john/3-16.htm". I put in John 3:16 so you can read it in different versions. Go look. read.. see what you like. One can ALWAYS go look into the Greek and Hebrew to know more.
 
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I commend you, sister in Christ, for your desire to actually do Bible study, actually study the Bible. That is how I started & have been blessed doing now for over 40 years as a spiritually born again follower of the Lord Jesus Christ.

There are some simple basic principles to keep in mind when studying the Bible, to understand it as God spoke it to others who wrote it down & the meaning intended by the Bible writer at the time it was written.

“The aim of good interpretation is not a uniqueness but to get at the ‘plain meaning of the text,’ the author’s intended meaning.” Gordon Fee

I try to make it a simple acrostic so it is easier to remember:

PHROCIA: Prayer, Hermeneutic Basic Principles, Read Repeatedly the passage being studied, Observe--Ask the reporter's questions, Correlate other Scriptures, Interpretation in Context, Application in love. A friend of mine who graduated from Bible college made it even simpler: Inquire, Look, Hook, Book, Took.

P...is for prayer first of all. It is inquiry--of God. Seek the Lord for understanding & the Holy Spirit's guidance into all the truth; so we can understand the Scriptures rightly & correctly. (please read Luke 24:25-27,44,45; John 16:12-15; 2 Timothy 3:14-17; Ephesians 1:18; Psalm 119:18) 'Then He OPENED THEIR MINDS to understand the Scriptures.'
See also Proverbs 2:1-5 & Psalm 42:1,2 & Prov 8:33-35.


H...is for Hermeneutical Principles. Hermeneutics is the field of study which is concerned with how we interpret the Bible. Interpretation or exegesis is the actual interpretation or explaining of the Bible by drawing the meaning out of the Biblical text.

#1. When the plain sense of Scripture makes common sense, one usually seeks no other sense, lest it result in nonsense.” In other words, "take every word at its primary, ordinary, usual, literal (plain) meaning unless the facts of the immediate context, studied in the light of related passages & axiomatic (self-evident or unquestionable) & fundamental truths, indicate clearly otherwise.” Dr. David L. Cooper, The Biblical Research Society

Examples: John 16:29 His disciples said, “Lo, now You are speaking PLAINLY & are not using a FIGURE OF SPEECH.

Matthew 7:3 “Why do you complain about the splinter in your brother’s eye when you have a plank in your own eye?”

The use of figurative language here only enhances the plain meaning of the text. Even though this is figurative language, we have no trouble understanding what Jesus meant. His use of metaphors makes it even plainer, clearer.

#2 Let Scripture interpret Scripture; Scripture best explains Scripture. In other words, the Scriptures must harmonize. The orthodox Christian view of the Bible is that it is not in error & does not contradict itself. Therefore when examining a passage we must approach it with an eye to what the whole Bible says about that topic.

It also states we should interpret difficult or seemingly confusing passages based on clear passages. (I Cor 14:33) Understanding the Bible is not meant to be confusing or contentious but confirming what God actually said & what the writer of Scripture's meant in the culture, grammatical language & historical time in which it was written.

Let Scripture speak for itself. Neither add to it nor subtract from it. (Prov 30:4; Deut 4:2; 12:32) Let the Bible be your best commentary.

Example: Genesis 2:16,17 with Genesis 32,3--Can you figure out what Eve subtracted or left out of God's commandment? Can you figure out what she added to the commandment? That is what we are talking about. And the consequences we live with today. Remember--one of the first interpreters was the serpent in the garden. Don't fall into his clever deceptions: quoting verses out of context, quoting partial verses & twisting them to mean something else, etc. (see Luke 4:1-14)

#3 Active, saving faith & dependence on the Holy Spirit are necessary for us to understand & properly interpret Scripture. There are natural eyes & ears & spiritual eyes & ears. (Matt 13:9,15)

Example: 2 Cor 2:9-14 Just as it is written: “THINGS WHICH EYE HAS NOT SEEN & EAR HAS NOT HEARD & which HAVE NOT ENTERED THE HEART OF MAN, ALL THAT GOD HAS PREPARED FOR THOSE WHO LOVE HIM.” For to us God revealed them through the Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God. For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so the thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may know the things freely given to us by God, which things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words. But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him & he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised.

#4. Interpret words by the author's intent in harmony with their grammatical, historical, cultural, prophetical context.

The Bible was written in the language of men & can be understood if we follow the proper rules of language.

Example: Matthew 24. This has become one of the most misinterpreted passages because of not following the above principle, as well as the prior & post ones. Oftentimes you will see in Scripture where the writer 'explains' a term used, for the sake of those reading it.

Example: Matt 1:23; Mark 5:41; 15:22,34; John 1:38; Acts 4:36; 9:36; etc.


#5,6,7 Avoid private interpretation & let one's experiences be made more sure by Scripture, seeking to verify: 'by the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses let every fact be confirmed.' (Deut 17:6; 2 Cor 13:1; Matt 18:16, etc.)

I combined 3 principles in one for the sake of space & time.

Example: 2 Peter 1:16-21 For we did not follow cleverly devised tales when we made known to you the power & coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of His majesty. For when He received honor & glory from God the Father, such an utterance as this was made to Him by the Majestic Glory, “This is My beloved Son with whom I am well-pleased”— & we ourselves heard this utterance made from heaven when we were with Him on the holy mountain.

So we have the prophetic word MADE MORE SURE, to which you do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns & the morning star arises in your hearts. But know this FIRST, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one’s OWN interpretation, for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.

#8 God says what He means & means what He says. This principle was driven home to me when a godly pastor told me when he did Bible study & had the group read the passage, he then asked, "What did the passage say? Inevitably, people would look up from the Scripture & give their opinion of what they thought it MEANT or meant to them. He would then say, "I didn't ask you what it meant or meant to you, I asked you what did it actually say." Then they would have to look down again & read it again & simply tell what it actually said. He smiled & said, "Now you are BEGINNING to do Bible study."

Example: Matthew 16:5-12

I've gone on too long but you can learn from learned others in the following websites:

BiblicalStudies.org.uk: The Interpretation of Scripture
https://bible-truth.org/InterpretationPrinciples.pdf
Exegesis and Hermeneutics: The Bible Interpreter's Two Most Important Tasks
https://factsandtrends.net/2014/03/12/7-principles-of-biblical-interpretation/


R...is for read the Scripture to be studied, over & over again, with the intent to think God's thoughts after Him. Saturate our minds with God's thoughts, even memorize verses. God reveals truth progressively & at the maturity level that you can handle, so that the primary goal is not to just obtain knowledge of Scripture but to know the Savior as well & obey it & practice it in our daily lives. (John 5:37-40) Soon the Spirit begins to open our minds to understand.

O...is for observation. This is the LOOK of the R and O. I am looking for what it says. I am asking all the reporter's questions: who is talking? who is the audience? what is going on? What time of the day is this happening? Is the text ordinary or figurative? Is the text historical narrative or prophecy? Where is this happening? Why did that happen? How is this key word in the text defined? What is the immediate, book & whole bible context for this passage or verse? Is the text past, present or future?

Example: John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

In-start of a prepositional phrase. Not by or before or from, or between, etc. 'The beginning.' Which beginning is being referred to here? 'Was': past tense verb. What was already existing in the beginning? 'the Word': what or who is the Word? 'And': connective word, joining two ideas. How do these fit into the surrounding context? You tie vs 14 with the Word & learn more. And so on. This is probably one of the foundational study principles that keeps one from making erroneous & private interpretations. I often ask these questions of God when i am doing study & ask for His help on answering them. Sometimes the Holy Spirit brings other Scriptures to mind, even as I was writing this post!

C...is for correlation. I am looking throughout the Bible for similar passages, letting Scripture interpret Scripture or helping me find clear passages to clear up an obscure one. I can do a topical study by looking up all the verses in Scripture on the parable of the sower/soils. This is the HOOK--that ties things together & harmonizes them.

Though Jesus gave the interpretation, this is probably one parable he taught in many places with various people over a three year period. Thus in one gospel I may get more detail than in another & by harmonizing all accounts, I can gain more insight into what Jesus taught & what it means, than in just viewing the one passage.
 
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I...is for interpretation. When I have done all the previous ones, I now have amassed a large amount of observations of what it actually says. I have applied the principles of hermeneutics in my observations. I have gained revelational insight from the Spirit. I have started to think like God thinks, His thoughts from reading it day after day, over & over again. And I have harmonized the passage with the immediate context. I now am understanding the intent of the writer in the grammatical, historical, cultural & contextual frame of the passage.

In other words, I have drawn OUT of the study of the text the meaning. I have not made assumptions or started with a premise OUTSIDE the text & tried to find proof texts for my pretext premise. The former is called exegesis, the latter is called eisogesis.

A...is for application. This is the TOOK. The observing of Scripture takes a hold of us, changing us, transforming & renewing our minds & conforming us to the image of Christ, becoming more like Him. 2 Tim 3:14-17. The primary purpose of the Word of God is to be practically PROFITABLE: not only teaching us, but rebuking us when we go astray & also correcting us to show us the right path again to get back on. It also is used to train us (word used for raising children to maturity) us in RIGHTEOUS LIVING. We then are equipped to discern what is right & do it & avoid what is wrong. We are made complete, able to carry out the works of God which God prepared beforehand, that we uniquely are called to fulfill. (see also Eph 2:8-10; Phil 2:12,13; Acts 14:26, etc.) When we love God, obeying His commandments are no longer burdensome but a joy, a child pleasing His Father! (I John 5:3)

The last point I want to make is concerning getting a study Bible. The verse that come to my mind is Nehemiah 8:8.

"So they read from the Book of the Law of God, explaining it & giving insight, so that the people could understand what was being read."

God has raised up godly apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors & teachers, who have studied the Scriptures & heard from God. They have then put these things into study Bibles, to assist & help guide us, in our Spirit-led study of God's Word.

The first study Bible I had was given to me by one of my sisters when I was a young Christian. It was the Harper Study Bible (RSV). I still have it, though it is sadly falling apart from use. I have tried to tape it back together. I am looking at it now & in the front inside cover I have listed the 'eight covenants of God' and the 'seven dispensations of God.' I also have there the definition of a 'type.' Brings a smile to my face. It is full of notes in the margins throughout it. It had study notes on various passages & an extensive correlating of cross references as well as maps and Bible book introductions.

The next study Bible I bought was the Ryrie Study Bible (NASB). It was similar but with a step up. It had a harmony of the Gospels, a synopsis of Bible Doctrine, & articles on the inspiration & understanding of the Bible, a brief history on how we got our Bible, the miracles & parables of Jesus, a table of weights, measures & coins, a brief one on archaeology & the Bible, a reading program to get through the Bible in a year & maps & timeline charts. Lots of helpful things, saving me time & searching for them. They were handy right in the Bible.

My main one that I use primarily & it is falling apart and taped up is the Hebrew-Greek Key Study Bible (NASB). It has study notes on the Hebrew, Aramaic & Greek words. It also has Strong's Dictionary of Hebrew & Greek Bible words in the back that I can quickly look at, with the numbers written right after the words in the text of the Bible. It also includes a large section on lexical aids, principles of translation, grammatical codes & notes on the parsing of words and the grammatical categories
& bible book introductions, concordance & maps.


I like what the main writer of the notes says, Spiros Zodhiates, a native Greek man. "A lover of God's word or the expert theologian will treasure this bible for it contains a whole library of biblical aids under one cover. It is with an awesome sense of responsibility that my co-workers & I commit this...study bible to you with the prayer that it may enhance your knowledge of God's Word and that the presence of Jesus Christ in your heart may be made more real & satisfying."

I have several other specialized study bibles that I periodically look at in studying the Bible: the Open Bible Expanded (NKJV). Its main feature is the Biblical Cyclopedic Index, a rolled all in one dictionary, encyclopedia, concordance, reference & topical study outline. It has symbols for a 'read along translation,' a study between the testaments (old & new), a Christian's guide to the new life. It has a section on Bible Study Helps that include: how to study the Bible, reading plan, harmony of the gospels, teachings of Christ by subject, a section on biblical info on the development of the English bible, archaeological discoveries & messianic prophecies are indicated.

The prayer & goal of this study Bible is: "intended to make it an open Book to the reverent reader. It is hoped that this unique edition will truly make the Scriptures plain enough so aoll can have an Open Bible."

I also have 'The Defenders Study Bible' (KJV) with explanatory notes by Henry M. Morris, the former president of the Institute in Creation Research. He has written this study Bible 'in the defense & confirmation of the gospel (Phil 1:7). He spent a lifetime in the study of Christian evidences & the scientific integrity of Scripture. He has come to the conclusion that Bible is indeed the 'God-breathed out' Scripture: its histories are authentic, its science is accurate & its practical wisdom for daily living & knowing the Lord has no bounds. The Bible does have the answers & it can be defended.

It has introductions to the OT and NT, an Index to major topics in the bible with references, extensive notes on the literal historical interpretation of creation, the flood and global processes indicating a recent creation, as well as ntotavle inventions & discoveries of bible believing scientists, miracles in the Bible, References to Genesis in the NT, fulfillment of biblical prophecies, the I AM's in the Bible and the Deity & Resurrection of Christ, Creation & Revelation, Numbers in the Bible & a concordance & maps.

My niece recently got me the Archaeological Study Bible (NIV), an illustrated walk through biblical history and culture, giving a visual journey through biblical life & times. It has nearly 500 color photographs, detailed book introductions, detailed charts, concordance, indexes & maps. If you are a visual person, you might like this one.

My last one I got recently. It is the 'Fire (Study) Bible' (MEV). This is a 'full' life (Pentecostal) study Bible from a former missionary serving in Brazil. It is the Modern English Version, a new, modern translation from the Textus Receptus manuscripts, updating the language in the KJV. It was recently published in 2015.

Donald Stamps, the main contributor to the extensive notes & charts, states the purpose of this study Bible in summary, is to lead the reader, to an abiding faith in Holy Scripture & especially a deeper faith in the NT's apostolic message that will lead the reader to a greater expectancy for a NT experience made possible by the fulness of Christ living in the church (Eph 4:13) & by the fullness of the Holy Spirit living in the believer. (Acts 2:4; 4:31). He states he owes a great debt of gratitude to those who served on the editorial committee for this new translation.

Most of these study bibles can be found in different versions, depending on which one you want for your bible study & can be bought on Amazon or Christianbook.com or Christiandiscount.com, etc.

It is long but I hope it helps.
 
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