Should Children As Young As 16 Be Allowed To Vote?

GoldenBoy89 said:

What if it's a government of the people?

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That's another good point.

no

Shiloh Raven said:

The USA has its moral priorities completely backwards when owning a gun is a constitutional right, but having adequate healthcare and a college education are considered privileges.

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I think that's because one is a good used for self defense and the other two are services provided by the labor of other people. You don't have a right to the labor of another person. Everyone owns themselves.

dogs4thewin said:

There is a difference in PEOPLE helping the poor and the GOVERNMENT helping the poor.

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The government is the people in a democracy. If individuals helped the poor, we wouldn’t have to pass laws to do so. Before the new deal, old people and children were living on the streets.

dogs4thewin said:

Yes, but it is not solely on the government to provide. The people elect the government because it is needed for order, but it is not meant to provide everything people need.

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Who gets to say what the government is meant for?

GoldenBoy89 said:

What if it's a government of the people?

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You pipe-dreamer, you!

i repeat. no taxation without representation!

dogs4thewin said:

yup you have the right to expect to be paid for your labor

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Good point which leads me to ask in general... How many Christians have stolen images or used copyrighted material on-line without permission or paying the copyright holder? There is evidence of that in this thread alone. That would also apply to anyone quoting scripture in any copyrighted version. So if we can self justify these things how can we then turn around and decide what is good or bad for others, voting in this case?

dogs4thewin said:

the constitution

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And who made the constitution and has the power to ammend it where it sees fit?

Arcangl86 said:

I don't know. I think that depends on what you mean by reasonable limits.

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One example would be non-citizen foreign nationals residing in the United States. Unless you mean something slightly different, they are very much subject to all American law. They should not, however, be given the right to vote.

Nithavela said:

Who gets to say what the government is meant for?

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Generally speaking, the laws of nature.

Yekcidmij said:

Generally speaking, the laws of nature.

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Let's pretend that we are not only automatons but actually have free will. Just for the sake of argument.

Redac said:

One example would be non-citizen foreign nationals residing in the United States. Unless you mean something slightly different, they are very much subject to all American law. They should not, however, be given the right to vote.

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I meant in the context of American citizenship, which is what this thread is about. And I agree that people here on visas shouldn't have the franchise, but I'm not as sure about permanent residents.

JasonV said:

Which is why I would support a monarchical form of government.

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How does one go about setting up a royal family from scratch?

Desk trauma said:

How does one go about setting up a royal family from scratch?

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I think that would be a splendid opportunity to revive the honored american tradition known as "king of the ring".

Desk trauma said:

How does one go about setting up a royal family from scratch?

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Be in good with the Rothschilds?