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I don't even have cable service for my TV. So, no Fox News.
But keep guessing. Keep assuming.
I’m sorry. Some other far right source then. Alternatively, you came up with this preposterous idea on your own.
 
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Not me. The Dems. Of course, not all of them are played that way. Many of them are willing to think for themselves and not rely on the democrats, and don't allow mere words to destroy them, and don't see themselves as the victims the dems want them to be. Too bad the democrats don't see them favorably and even label them as traitors.
Where are you getting this stuff from? Have you got any evidence at all?
 
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I'm just giving you a reminder. Call it "whining" if it pleases you.
 
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I’m sorry. Some other far right source then. Alternatively, you came up with this preposterous idea on your own.

Are you saying that information other than what you already believe must be from the far right?
 
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Where are you getting this stuff from? Have you got any evidence at all?

Simple facts:
The democrats clearly use blacks and other minorities for their causes. They make them out to be victims that they need to rescue. They give them special treatment as if they aren't as capable as white people. It's just another form of slavery. Considering the history of the democrat party, it really should come as a surprise.
 
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Are you saying that information other than what you already believe must be from the far right?

Or that you came up with this preposterous idea on your own.

Simple facts:
The democrats clearly use blacks and other minorities for their causes. They make them out to be victims that they need to rescue. They give them special treatment as if they aren't as capable as white people. It's just another form of slavery. Considering the history of the democrat party, it really should come as a surprise.

Your position presupposes that African Americans are incapable of seeing through these supposed Democrat ploys. 90% of African Americans voted Dem in 2018. Do you seriously believe 90% of African Americans don’t think for themselves?

And history is just that - history. The present is very different.
 
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Are you saying that information other than what you already believe must be from the far right?
It's a blatantly counterfactual narrative, favorable to the self-image of the Right. Where else should we look for a source?
 
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Simple facts:
The democrats clearly use blacks and other minorities for their causes. They make them out to be victims that they need to rescue. They give them special treatment as if they aren't as capable as white people. It's just another form of slavery. Considering the history of the democrat party, it really should come as a surprise.
(emphasis added) That's where it gets hot and nasty.
 
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Or that you came up with this preposterous idea on your own.

Then hear it from someone else:

Your position presupposes that African Americans are incapable of seeing through these supposed Democrat ploys. 90% of African Americans voted Dem in 2018. Do you seriously believe 90% of African Americans don’t think for themselves?

People can be deceived.

And history is just that - history. The present is very different.

Are you really going to use the "The times they are a changin'" argument? History is often swept under the rug and hoped to be forgotten. We're seeing the results of that in many ways.
 
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(emphasis added) That's where it gets hot and nasty.

I agree. Shame on the democrat party for doing it.
Oh, I know. You would rather shame me for pointing it out. Noted.
 
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I agree. Shame on the democrat party for doing it.
Oh, I know. You would rather shame me for pointing it out. Noted.
No, I shame you for perpetrating a blatant falsehood. And while I'm in a shaming frame of mind, I will shame you for that offensive bit of revisionist history you just posted. Do you watch PragerU much?
 
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Then hear it from someone else:
Didn’t watch the whole thing - couldn’t - it’s a hack job.

For instance that Lyndon Johnson “quote”
FACT CHECK: Did LBJ Say 'I'll Have Those N*****s Voting Democratic for 200 Years'?


People can be deceived.

90% were deceived? You seem to have a low opinion of these African American voters.

Are you really going to use the "The times they are a changin'" argument? History is often swept under the rug and hoped to be forgotten. We're seeing the results of that in many ways.
Democrats haven’t been the party of the KKK and Jim Crow for 50 years - this is an old failed argument from the right.
 
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You had me when you suggested you realized that the constitution is being trampled, but if you know this why do you suggest is outside of the establishment exploiting him for further destruction of civil liberties and ceremonious tragedy?

I do not exactly follow your sentence as written here. Can you please elaborate? Thanks.


Each president has the same superficial, and clandestine job; Trump is the same as Obama, who is the same as Bush II, et. cetera.

Regardless of what people say, Trump has the full backing of the military (troops, intelligentsia, operations, DARPA and so on) as well as the police, emergency responders, border patrol, customs, and a huge following. In an upheaval (civil war, coupe) he is not going to be alone, nor is he going to be taken out easily. He has a loyal army. The logistics to supply it. The hearts and minds of millions in america to support him, and the complete backing of all departments of the executive branch.

On the face of it, that is awesome in the fight against the deep state. They cant touch him. He can then use his authority as the president to remove these unconstitutional legislation's and restore the union.

In the sense of you saying he is the same as Obama and Bush, (hypothetical in response) I honest to God hope not, they are the two individuals most responsible for the majority of unconstitutional legislation used to empower the executive branch... well lets hope that is untrue, because the authority the executive branch currently holds is empirical, and beyond contestation outside of the executive branch. Being that only the DOD, and DHS have any authority to mitigate. If Trump is as unconstitutional and detrimental to the constitution as they were, we have big big problems. By military tribunals, and intelligence he even has his own police force and courts outside of the judicial branch, even FBI or congress. Complete rule, and the authority to roll tanks down your street while ordering a drone strike on your next door neighbor.

Most people have no idea... why some didn't want HRC in office. That's why. We didn't want her to continue with this power. Trump is a hail Mary at this point. America is absolutely on the brink of collapse, and completely becoming politically re-classed. Waaaay before trump ran for office. He stated that is why he ran. Even if he doesn't utilize the legislation himself, but doesn't get rid of it, were screwed next go around. So Trump is a hope and a prayer that we do not fall into the plans of the deep-state, and he will keep his word by dismantling it, and the legislation that gives it it's power.

We did not have a hope or a prayer HRC would do so. And as it stands thus far, promises made. Promises kept.
 
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I do not exactly follow your sentence as written here. Can you please elaborate? Thanks.

You seem to understand how laws are being passed under the noses of Americans - laws that trample the constitution. You are all aware of how people who try to explain these things are called CRAZY until it shows up in pop culture - then "It was already known" or "people don't care".

My question is why do you stop there? How can you know the aforementioned, but not realize all presidents (including Trump) perpetuate the same globalist idea under a package of partisanship?

That is why you lost me. I entertain these conversations on this subject, but few actually realize the gravity. Yet, you seem to think Trump is immune to the swamp himself while at the same time acknowledging the machine that oppreses it's citizens quietly. Additionally, it seems that you think there is a difference between him, Obama, Bush 2, Clinton, etc.
 
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You seem to understand how laws are being passed under the noses of Americans - laws that trample the constitution. You are all aware of how people who try to explain these things are called CRAZY until it shows up in pop culture - then "It was already known" or "people don't care".

Hence the avatar and my misspelled name. I know I will be mocked. Why not a little self-abasement to keep perspective?

My question is why do you stop there? How can you know the aforementioned, but not realize all presidents (including Trump) perpetuate the same globalist idea under a package of partisanship?

The irreparable damage that has been perpetuated onto the deep-state and/or globalism by Trump is not imaginary. From TTP, NAFTA, PCA, and even the refusal to sign the UN migration pact is devastating to that cause. Even the building of the wall. All of these actions fly in the face of globalism and if completed will destroy their ability to ensnare this nation. These aren't half-measure 'pretend' actions where someone 'acts' like they are doing something. These actions will take decades to 'fix' by the deep-state if the are brought to full fruition.

It is impossible with his current course of actions to be 'going along with the plan'. He is doing his own thing. Creating his own way. With absolute disregard to how any of the globalist feel about it. As it sounds you are aware of the system is already in place, and it works. Why punch holes in a century old globalist system to make it defunct if you are just playing along?

If you truly understand what I am referring to... look at Trumps actions, he is completely up rooting the old guard and the establishment system. Not just in our country, and not just from in our lifetime. He's not bothering to chop this tree down. He is digging at the roots so it dies and cant come back. He is not just pruning a few branches for mere appearances.

That is why you lost me. I entertain these conversations on this subject, but few actually realize the gravity. Yet, you seem to think Trump is immune to the swamp himself while at the same time acknowledging the machine that oppresses it's citizens quietly. Additionally, it seems that you think there is a difference between him, Obama, Bush 2, Clinton, etc.

Trump is not part of the swamp. He is an entirely different breed in of himself. He is doing him. His own way, his plan, his say, and not asking for their permission nor forgiveness. A complete disregard for the establishment.

My fear is Trump is the kind of man that can bring about his own system. He is that powerful. As the liberator of the oppressed, people and nations will flock to him. Trump will help establish the new world order by destroying it. Even as his son in law Jared Kushner is brokering peace between the Jews and Muslims, the Sanhedrin is putting Trump on money calling him the prophecy of Cyrus, and rebuilding the third temple with US assistance.

We are in the end times my friend. This current system is over.
 
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Hence the avatar and my misspelled name. I know I will be mocked. Why not a little self-abasement to keep perspective?



The irreparable damage that has been perpetuated onto the deep-state and/or globalism by Trump is not imaginary. From TTP, NAFTA, PCA, and even the refusal to sign the UN migration pact is devastating to that cause. Even the building of the wall. All of these actions fly in the face of globalism and if completed will destroy their ability to ensnare this nation. These aren't half-measure 'pretend' actions where someone 'acts' like they are doing something. These actions will take decades to 'fix' by the deep-state if the are brought to full fruition.

It is impossible with his current course of actions to be 'going along with the plan'. He is doing his own thing. Creating his own way. With absolute disregard to how any of the globalist feel about it. As it sounds you are aware of the system is already in place, and it works. Why punch holes in a century old globalist system to make it defunct if you are just playing along?

If you truly understand what I am referring to... look at Trumps actions, he is completely up rooting the old guard and the establishment system. Not just in our country, and not just from in our lifetime. He's not bothering to chop this tree down. He is digging at the roots so it dies and cant come back. He is not just pruning a few branches for mere appearances.



Trump is not part of the swamp. He is an entirely different breed in of himself. He is doing him. His own way, his plan, his say, and not asking for their permission nor forgiveness. A complete disregard for the establishment.

My fear is Trump is the kind of man that can bring about his own system. He is that powerful. As the liberator of the oppressed, people and nations will flock to him. Trump will help establish the new world order by destroying it. Even as his son in law Jared Kushner is brokering peace between the Jews and Muslims, the Sanhedrin is putting Trump on money calling him the prophecy of Cyrus, and rebuilding the third temple with US assistance.

We are in the end times my friend. This current system is over.
Hail the Antichrist! MAGA!
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Hence the avatar and my misspelled name. I know I will be mocked. Why not a little self-abasement to keep perspective?



The irreparable damage that has been perpetuated onto the deep-state and/or globalism by Trump is not imaginary. From TTP, NAFTA, PCA, and even the refusal to sign the UN migration pact is devastating to that cause. Even the building of the wall. All of these actions fly in the face of globalism and if completed will destroy their ability to ensnare this nation. These aren't half-measure 'pretend' actions where someone 'acts' like they are doing something. These actions will take decades to 'fix' by the deep-state if the are brought to full fruition.

It is impossible with his current course of actions to be 'going along with the plan'. He is doing his own thing. Creating his own way. With absolute disregard to how any of the globalist feel about it. As it sounds you are aware of the system is already in place, and it works. Why punch holes in a century old globalist system to make it defunct if you are just playing along?

If you truly understand what I am referring to... look at Trumps actions, he is completely up rooting the old guard and the establishment system. Not just in our country, and not just from in our lifetime. He's not bothering to chop this tree down. He is digging at the roots so it dies and cant come back. He is not just pruning a few branches for mere appearances.



Trump is not part of the swamp. He is an entirely different breed in of himself. He is doing him. His own way, his plan, his say, and not asking for their permission nor forgiveness. A complete disregard for the establishment.

My fear is Trump is the kind of man that can bring about his own system. He is that powerful. As the liberator of the oppressed, people and nations will flock to him. Trump will help establish the new world order by destroying it. Even as his son in law Jared Kushner is brokering peace between the Jews and Muslims, the Sanhedrin is putting Trump on money calling him the prophecy of Cyrus, and rebuilding the third temple with US assistance.

We are in the end times my friend. This current system is over.

"Doing him" is a script handed to him by the same entities that allowed him to enter the white house. He cannot bring down the system; he is controlled opposition. Don't you remember who the canonical text said runs this world? Principalities, powers, and rulers: these are classes of heavenly hosts, not mere metaphors. The same entities that give you false dichotomies and veiled paradigms are driving the current paradigm shift to deceive everyone into thinking one side is winning - when the game is, and has always been rigged to exploit the population's platitudes and ethics through political theater.

That is why I said I don't know how you, or anyone can be a "truther," conspiracy theorist (which I have no problem with), or part of any kind of transparent movement - yet somehow believe Trump is any different from the past presidents.


His "lone-ranger, no BS, overwhelmingly arrogant attitude" has been packaged for the population by the "deep state" itself. It is to keep people focused on a man, instead of remembering what people warned about at least 12 years ago. You are feeding into a manufactured "hero" - just so that s/he can fall.


Be careful; your zeal for a man like Trump is being used to exploit your expectation of a beast system being destroyed. The BEAST system will go on until the Redeemer Himself comes back; no human on this plane of existence is going to take down the BEAST system. And, since that system isn't even here yet, why would taking down the "deep state" be a magnificent feat if we know the Beast system is yet to come? The BEAST system is being built right now - and Trump is a part of it. The people who support him are a part of it, because they are begging for their demise.

Do you see how convoluted and distracted this entire thing is - all to exploit your soul? Trump is a man; we should know better being Christians. We don't "settle". Keep your eyes open. The deep state is a distraction.
 
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