All I want to do is study the Bible and Jesus Christ

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Jesus and the Bible is the most studied of all human history.

I didn't find Jesus Christ until I turned 20 this was in the summer of 2018.

How can I make this happen? The scary thing to me is that with the current path I am on I won't have much time to let alone study the Bible.

I don't want to be a layman.
 
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Jesus and the Bible is the most studied of all human history.

I didn't find Jesus Christ until I turned 20 this was in the summer of 2018.

How can I make this happen? The scary thing to me is that with the current path I am on I won't have much time to let alone study the Bible.

I don't want to be a layman.
It takes time and experience to become a good minister of the gospel. You need to carefully examine your motives for wanting to be a minister. I suggest you get hold of Charles Spurgeon's "Lectures to My Students" and read it right through, praying all the way that the Holy Spirit will show you what He wants to teach you in it. This book is absolutely the best book to read for anyone aspiring to be a minister.

I wanted to be a minister in my late 20s, and I started theological training. Then the Holy Spirit led me into getting a degree in English Literature and a teaching qualification and went into a 19 year career in teaching. It is only in the last 20 years at around 51 years of age that I became an elder of my local Presbyterian church, and had regular opportunities to preach. For the last six years we didn't have a minister and because I had become the senior elder, I was essentially the pastor.

I found that it was hard work with a lot of demands on my time and energy. I learned that it was not the glamorous role I thought it was going to be when I first thought about ministry in my late 20s. It became apparent to me, even though I wanted to be a minister, God had not called me that way. So I'm glad I didn't become a minister, because if God has not called me, it would have been a very stressful role and I could have ended up being burned out, like many ministers who have left the ministry.

It is more than just getting up on Sundays and preaching. You have to have a real love and a heart for the people you are ministering to. You have to have a love and passion for lost souls. You have to not only read the Bible and become totally familiar with it, you have to do the Bible - put it into practice every hour or every day of the week. If you don't live the Bible in your personal and family life, you will fail as a minister, because the people will see you as a hypocrite - being all spiritual on Sundays, but someone totally different during the week.

Also, as a minister you have to chair the ladies flower arranging committee, the Board of Managers and the Elders meeting every month. Also, you need to be prepared to be on call 24 hours a day, and so you will have little personal life. You will take more funerals than weddings. You will also have to put up with every form of criticism from members.

If you are a pastor of a independent church, there will always be someone who will want your job and they will try to discredit you so that you will be fired and they to take your place. If you are a Presbyterian minister you have to get a theology degree first and then spend 2 more years being trained the Presbyterian way. Then when you are a minister, you are obliged to comply with the Book of Presbyterian Order.

If you become a Baptist minister, you may come under pressure from those who give the most money to the church. If you don't preach what they want to hear, they may bully you into submission and wear you down until you get burned out. That happened to a good minister in a Baptist church where I was a deacon, and the church secretary who was an accountant bullied the minister until he resigned and got out of the ministry altogether.

If you become an Anglican or Episcopalian priest, you are bound to comply with the church's liturgy and its traditions and rules, and you might get just 15 minutes to preach in Sunday services. You would start as a young curate with the Vicar as your boss, and if you became a Vicar, you will then have the Bishop on your back if you don't comply with what he wants of you.

Charles Spurgeon said to his students: "If you can do anything else other than be a minister, for goodness sake, go and do it!"

This may not be good news for you, but I am giving you my 51 years of experience in the faith.

You need to know beyond all doubt that you are truly called of the Holy spirit to be a minister of the gospel, because it will take years of study and prayer before you will get to run a church and preach in its pulpit.

You have said you don't get much time to read the Bible right now. Whew! Not a good start!
 
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It takes time and experience to become a good minister of the gospel. You need to carefully examine your motives for wanting to be a minister. I suggest you get hold of Charles Spurgeon's "Lectures to My Students" and read it right through, praying all the way that the Holy Spirit will show you what He wants to teach you in it. This book is absolutely the best book to read for anyone aspiring to be a minister.

I wanted to be a minister in my late 20s, and I started theological training. Then the Holy Spirit led me into getting a degree in English Literature and a teaching qualification and went into a 19 year career in teaching. It is only in the last 20 years at around 51 years of age that I became an elder of my local Presbyterian church, and had regular opportunities to preach. For the last six years we didn't have a minister and because I had become the senior elder, I was essentially the pastor.

I found that it was hard work with a lot of demands on my time and energy. I learned that it was not the glamorous role I thought it was going to be when I first thought about ministry in my late 20s. It became apparent to me, even though I wanted to be a minister, God had not called me that way. So I'm glad I didn't become a minister, because if God has not called me, it would have been a very stressful role and I could have ended up being burned out, like many ministers who have left the ministry.

It is more than just getting up on Sundays and preaching. You have to have a real love and a heart for the people you are ministering to. You have to have a love and passion for lost souls. You have to not only read the Bible and become totally familiar with it, you have to do the Bible - put it into practice every hour or every day of the week. If you don't live the Bible in your personal and family life, you will fail as a minister, because the people will see you as a hypocrite - bring all spiritual on Sundays, but someone totally different during the week.

Also, as a minister you have to chair the ladies flower arranging committee, the Board of Managers and the Elders meeting every month. Also, you need to be prepared to be on call 24 hours a day, and so you will have little personal life. You will take more funerals than weddings. You will also have to put up with every form of criticism from members.

If you are a pastor of a independent church, there will always be someone who will want your job and they will try to discredit you so that you will be fired and they to take your place. If you are a Presbyterian minister you have to get a theology degree first and then spend 2 more years being trained the Presbyterian way. Then when you are a minister, you are obliged to comply with the Book of Presbyterian Order.

If you become a Baptist minister, you may come under pressure from those who give the most money to the church. If you don't preach what they want to hear, they may bully you into submission and wear you down until you get burned out. That happened to a good minister in a Baptist church where I was a deacon, and the church secretary who was an accountant bullied the minister until he resigned and got out of the ministry altogether.

If you become an Anglican or Episcopalian priest, you are bound to comply with the church's liturgy and its traditions and rules, and you might get just 15 minutes to preach in Sunday services. You would start as a young curate with the Vicar as your boss, and if you became a Vicar, you will then have the Bishop on your back if you don't comply with what he wants of you.

Charles Spurgeon said to his students: "If you can do anything else other than be a minister, for goodness sake, go and do it!"

This may not be good news for you, but I am giving you my 51 years of experience in the faith.

You need to know beyond all doubt that you are truly called of the Holy spirit to be a minister of the gospel, because it will take years of study and prayer before you will get to run a church and preach in its pulpit.

You have said you don't get much time to read the Bible right now. Whew! Not a good start!


I know something like that is a huge responsibility.

I was thinking more like being a Christian Apologist. And defending the Bible along with Jesus Christ.
 
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I know something like that is a huge responsibility.

I was thinking more like being a Christian Apologist. And defending the Bible along with Jesus Christ.
The best advice I can give you then is to start with getting a theological degree from a good Bible-believing theological college. This will give you a good disciplined course of study, improve your knowledge of the Bible and the principles it contains. I would encourage you to take it to mastorate level at least if you are going to be a good Christian Apologist.

I completed a three-year mastorate in Divinity at the age of 68, and it was such a wonderful journey. I thought I knew the Bible pretty well before I started it at age 65, but it showed me all the areas that I didn't know. It didn't make me a better person, but it was fun and fulfilling for me in my old age.

If you want to spend around $1000US a year, consider Nations University, based in Louisiana. It is an on-line one, but has very high standards. My student advisor was a lovely lady from Tennessee! We had great times over the three years corresponding with each other. Because I already had a M.A. in English, I was able to enter at mastorate level. Pity they don't have a PhD, because I would have gone on to do one of those as well! They have a website. Because I am Pentecostal by theology, I asked leading questions about that, and they were very accommodating, and all the time I studied with them, and wrote my essays the way God led me (and those were miracles in themselves!), they never opposed my views on healing or the Holy Spirit. They told me that they had many Pentecostals and Charismatics studying with them, although their staff were affiliated with the Church of Christ, the Bible College is not officially so. It became accredited in my last year of study, so I ended up with a fully accredited Divinity degree.

I know that some churches and Christians think that academic study is the love of the world and that the Holy Spirit can't move through the study of Theology. My testimony is that the Holy Spirit was with me all through the three years of study, and I would ask the Holy Spirit to help me write an essay, and did one draft and got 95% on a regular basis! I did my research paper on the ministry of divine healing, and got also 95% for it! That was a miracle, because part of it was a total denial of the Cessationist view!

So, if you can do academic study, go for it! It is time well spent in the Lord, believe me!
 
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Jesus and the Bible is the most studied of all human history.

I didn't find Jesus Christ until I turned 20 this was in the summer of 2018.

How can I make this happen? The scary thing to me is that with the current path I am on I won't have much time to let alone study the Bible.

I don't want to be a layman.
One of the most profitable things you can do is to memorize Scripture. That way, you take it with you and can meditate upon it's life application as you, well, live out your day to day. It is the Word of Christ and so you will be meditating on Christ as you consider His Word and it's impact on every aspect of your life.
Colossians 3:16
Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, teaching and admonishing one another in all wisdom, singing psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, with thankfulness in your hearts to God.

Consider how Jesus' parables are so many lessons about His Word and Himself as simple illustrations from nature and daily experience.
 
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Jesus and the Bible is the most studied of all human history.

I didn't find Jesus Christ until I turned 20 this was in the summer of 2018.

How can I make this happen? The scary thing to me is that with the current path I am on I won't have much time to let alone study the Bible.

I don't want to be a layman.
If you want to grow fast, ask God for pain. There's not much else that can show you your faults, including how untrustworthy you are (which is a pain in itself). In the end you will find out, I hope, that God is all that is good inside you.

Once you begin to know the God who did all this for his own sake, and who is your very sustenance, you can minister.

But spend all the time you can in the Bible. Learn facts. Memorize scripture. Read huge portions at a sitting (and don't consider that an accomplishment), until you find yourself making cross-references the books don't show.

Study a great paradox how Christ lived without sin, not because he was holy or because he was God, but because he depended completely on the Father --thus proving he was God, the Redeemer who lived on our behalf.
 
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You shouldn't memorized the Bible without its context.

Like the Ethiopian said "how can I understand if nobdon teaches me".

It is good not to take scripture out of context, but I can tell you that memorizing verses from childhood has done no end of good, convicting, reminding, leading me in the path of righteousness. But in reading huge amounts of Scripture at a sitting, it becomes habit to keep verses in context.

One of the things my parents did more than even the Christian school I attended was done during nightly family devotions. We memorized whole chapters.
 
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Being a Layman is a construct that is not altogether biblical.

We should all be ministers of the Gospel wherever we are planted.

It if folly to believe that somehow we must have 'official' status to be fruitful for Him.

By joining a church structure some become less fruitful but more acclaimed.

This is a snare.

Humble yourself under the mighty hand of God and He will lift you up.

You were created for good works.

Learn surrender and you wont miss any good thing appointed for you from His heart.

Blessings,

Carl Emerson.
 
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Jesus and the Bible is the most studied of all human history.

I didn't find Jesus Christ until I turned 20 this was in the summer of 2018.

How can I make this happen? The scary thing to me is that with the current path I am on I won't have much time to let alone study the Bible.

I don't want to be a layman.
I have been through Bible college and know many pastors who came from where you are and also many who thought they had the calling and ended up as lay people. The key is to find out your gifting and use the time you have wisely. You can start taking some on line Bible courses with good doctrine. Then start a Bible study in your place and develop your teaching skills. I know many churches that started out as home study. The Lord raises up good shepherds and many seminaries produce professionals who don't know the lORD but can teach a 5 point sermon. You can change your schedule to allow more time. If your taking 15 units go down to 12. If you are working full time go down to part time. You have to count the costs. You have to be in prayer and be willing to serve now even if it is the lowest position in the church. Many of the best pastors began teaching kids in Sunday school. Ill be praying for you.
 
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To perhaps save yourself some time and money, if you do decide to enroll in a bible college or seminary or get a Masters of Divinity, etc., make sure that you enroll in one that is approved by whatever organization through which you might become a minister, or else you may end up having to take more classes on top of what you've already taken (and spend more money) because it wasn't a seminary approved by your particular denomination for its ministry programs. If you find out that God wasn't calling you to that type of ministry after all, no harm done, but if you are called, then you've already taken some of the steps you need.
 
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Jesus and the Bible is the most studied of all human history.

I didn't find Jesus Christ until I turned 20 this was in the summer of 2018.

How can I make this happen? The scary thing to me is that with the current path I am on I won't have much time to let alone study the Bible.

I don't want to be a layman.

Why won't you have the time?

There are ways to study theology and train for ministry that make it easier in terms of time commitment, for example starting with online courses. But you will need *some* time to get started, as well as time for fellowship.

Is that not within your range of options right now?
 
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