Trump signs Bibles for Alabama tornado survivors

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My S.O. used to hang out with some Nazarenes and Holiness groups. One time she heard of one husband and wife that buried a Bible under their house they were building because they wanted their house "built on the Word of God".
 
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Trump shouldn't really even be touching bibles as a president except to be sworn in - especially in relation to autographing for tornado victims. That is tangential religious endorsement..
You may be thinking of religious organizations endorsing political candidates. It doesn't work the other way around. Many candidates or officeholders make it a point to associate themselves with one religion or another or several...and do it in a very open an unmistakable way. Not a problem.
 
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My S.O. used to hang out with some Nazarenes and Holiness groups. One time she heard of one husband and wife that buried a Bible under their house they were building because they wanted their house "built on the Word of God".
Did you ever hear of Catholics burying a statue of St. Joseph, upside down, in the yard of a house they were hoping he would sell for them?
 
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Matthew 18:24
Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."

Mark 10:25
It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

Luke 18:25
Indeed, it is easier for a camel to pass through an eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
Jim and Tammy Bakker explained that that doesn't mean what you think it means. They said you can tell that God loves rich people the best because of how lavishly he rewards them.

I wonder what Christ must thinking when a billionaire "narcissist," who is averaging 22 "Pinocchio's" daily, is signing Bibles!
You're exaggerating. He only averages 15 (in 2018). His record high for a single day is 83 on On October 22, 2018 - so there must have been many days when he didn't lie at all. So there.
 
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You may be thinking of religious organizations endorsing political candidates. It doesn't work the other way around. Many candidates or officeholders make it a point to associate themselves with one religion or another or several...and do it in a very open an unmistakable way. Not a problem.

That is not what I am saying, but let me put it this way:

Who gives autographs - someone who agrees with the content of the book/text and out of the goodness of their heart puts their name on the object, or the author of the book?

Be honest, and you won't continually be deceived. The implication of a man signing a bible is blasphemy alone. Do you think The Redeemer would sign bibles when He comes back?

Stop acting like we don't see what we see, or that the virtue is present when it isnt. On the other hand, anyone who stands and waits for their bible to be signed by a MAN may deserve to be swindled.
 
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That is not what I am saying, but let me put it this way:

Who gives autographs - someone who agrees with the content of the book/text and out of the goodness of their heart puts their name on the object, or the author of the book?
In the case of Bibles--not just any other book, but Bibles--especially family Bibles such as many Southern families keep and pass down through the generations, it is common to record all sorts of important events in the lives and histories of the family members as they happen. The federal government even accepts such records as proof of age or birth in lieu of a birth certificate or census record. For someone to ask the president of the United States to sign their copy of the Bible is nothing unusual.

And as for the signer, President Trump, politicians as a courtesy routinely sign books or hats or shirts or pennants or print programs and other items when people in crowds hold such items out to them for signing, just like athletes do. So there is nothing remarkable there, either.
 
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People wanting a thrice married, philandering habitual liar to sign their bibles is a little out of the ordinary but hey, we're all free to worship however and whomever we want in this country.
 
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In the case of Bibles--not just any other book, but Bibles--especially family Bibles such as many Southern families keep and pass down through the generations, it is common to record all sorts of important events in the lives and histories of the family members as they happen. The federal government even accepts such records as proof of age or birth in lieu of a birth certificate or census record. For someone to ask the president of the United States to sign their copy of the Bible is nothing unusual.

And as for the signer, President Trump, politicians as a courtesy routinely sign books or hats or shirts or pennants or print programs and other items when people in crowds hold such items out to them for signing, just like athletes do. So there is nothing remarkable there, either.

There is a difference between my mom, dad, sister or best friend, even signing a bible they are gifting to me. These entities have likely been with me through trials, tribulation and even infighting we have survived. I get that.

However, perhaps you are still missing the point: authors autograph. Do I get to autograph Obama's books, or sign the programs for Bush's speeches? Would peolle line up for ME if I went down to greet hurricane victims in the South? What is the difference between Trump and me (when it comes to signing bibles?)

As I said, if people are putting their soul and faith in a man, they deserve what they get. And, if it has gotten so far that Christians are accepting the autograph of non-apologetic men of usury and decadence on their bibles, then the psychology is already too deeply affected.

Are you trying to convince me that Trump is the friends/relative/partner to these people - so much so that he has been through the trials with them to relate? Or, are you trying to convince me of something else? I do not idolize the canon, and I believe the Word of God is a living entity - not just a canonical text. Do we agree on this; for some Christians that is considered demonic so I just want to make sure which audience I need to address.
 
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And here we'll see Liberals ignore every rational explanation to hold on to their favorite horror story.

It's not that liberals, like myself, are ignoring every "rational explanation" that has given in this thread in the desperate attempt to justify Trump signing people's bibles, it's just that these so-called rational explanations are nothing more than lame excuses and these excuses shouldn't be taken seriously. As I mentioned earlier on in this thread, I think Trump's supporters have made their unwavering devotion to him quite clear ever since he won their hearts while he was still campaigning by pandering to their faith and to their conservative political whims. He knows how deeply loyal his supporters are to him.
 
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What if I found one of my old Bibles with an ex-girlfriend signature in it?

That would be no big deal to me nor my current wife.

What if I found one of my old Bibles with a former president's signature in it?

Again no big deal.

M-Bob
What if you found one with Two Corinthians?
 
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It's disconcerting that folks have a Bible with the same signature on it that is also on checks for hush payments to inappropriate content stars to keep quiet about adulterous, kinky affairs.
I’d be afraid of lightning striking it.
 
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There is a difference between my mom, dad, sister or best friend, even signing a bible they are gifting to me. These entities have likely been with me through trials, tribulation and even infighting we have survived. I get that.

However, perhaps you are still missing the point: authors autograph.
That's simply not true. And it was addressed earlier in this thread.

Are you trying to convince me that Trump is the friends/relative/partner to these people - so much so that he has been through the trials with them to relate?
Of course there is some connection between a candidate and someone else who is a supporter of that candidate or officeholder, his policies, and so on. And there is certainly enough to justify asking for the signature and, as well, to justify giving it.

It's a memento. Don't make more out of this than is there. And if you think that the word of God is not simply the canon, there is even less reason to be alarmed about this event.
 
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That is not what I am saying, but let me put it this way:

Who gives autographs - someone who agrees with the content of the book/text and out of the goodness of their heart puts their name on the object, or the author of the book?

Be honest, and you won't continually be deceived. The implication of a man signing a bible is blasphemy alone. Do you think The Redeemer would sign bibles when He comes back?

Stop acting like we don't see what we see, or that the virtue is present when it isnt. On the other hand, anyone who stands and waits for their bible to be signed by a MAN may deserve to be swindled.

if i write something in a Bible for someone and sign it, or signing a "card", etc. am i giving my "autograph"?

:scratch:
 
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