Matthew 5 "fulfill the Law" - and 2 contexts: A-Moral Law, B-Ceremonial

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I've been taking your "suggestion" for over 40 years. That's how long I've been reading and studying the Bible, but what does that have to do with SDA doctrine?
You refer to the word of website over the Word of God and do not wish to discuss the scriptures or the OP.
It seems that you are contradicting yourself by implying that the quotes by Ellen White were taken out of context and then supplying many scriptures that SEEM to support what she said. Which is it? Do her quotes represent SDA doctrine or not? I guess you think that they do.
Not at all. This was in reference to your word of website that used quotes from EGW applied out of context to make straw man arguments that do not exist or to make an author appear to say something that they are not saying. Many do the same with the scriptures.
You're implying that I'm making false claims??? About what? I've asked some questions about SDA doctrine. I've refuted what seems to be SDA doctrine concerning Christians keeping the Law (mentioned in the OP), and I've shared plenty of scriptures to back my beliefs about the Law -- whole sections of Paul's writing. I could post whole chapters here of what Paul said from Romans and Galatians and many verses from Colossians that show that Christians are not under the law in any way.
You have refuted nothing but made false claims and allegations about a works based salvation that no one believes or teaches based on the word of website.
You're also implying that I'm trying to discredit the OP? Now, that's a false claim. How am I to know where he is or why he's not posting? I pray that he's okay.
Has he replied to you?
BTW, using so many caps can make your comments very hard to read. Also, caps can imply shouting. You may want to rethink using them so much.
It is not shouting but only emphasizing points of scripture. I will take your comments on board. Thankyou.
 
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I suggest you prayerfully read your bible more rather then seeking to understand it from the word of website. Only God's WORD is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW it *ROMANS 3:4; ACTS 5:29. JESUS says those who knowingly follow the traditions and teachings of men are not following God *MATTHEW 15:3-9.

Pulling quotes out of context just like pulling scripture out of context can lead to a different undstanding of what an author is saying.

*MATTHEW 5:17-20; HEBREWS 4:15; 1 PETER 2:21-22; PHILIPPIANS 2:13; JOHN 15:1-7 MATTHEW 5:48; JOHN 17:23; HEBREWS 13:20-21; JAMES 1:4

*MATTHEW 7:13-14; MATTHEW 7:16-23; MATTHEW 22:14; 1 CORINTHIANS 1:26; ROMANS 9:27; ROMANS 11:1-5; REVELATION 12:17; 1 JOHN 2:3-4; 1 JOHN 3:3-10; HEBREWS 10:26-27.

PHILIPPIANS 4:13; 1 CORINTHIANS 10:13; 1 JOHN 3:3-10; 1 JOHN 2:3-4; REVELATION 12:17; REVELATION 14:12; REVELATION 22:14.

Nothing you have quoted says that our rightouesness comes from the works of the law. We are saved by GRACE through faith and not of ourselves it is a gift of God *EPHESIANS 2:8. OBEDIENCE to God's LAW is not how we are saved it is the FRUIT of God's work in us as we BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD *PHILIPPIANS 2:13. If our faith has no fruit it is dead *JAMES 2:18-20; 26 and our tree will be cast down and thrown into the fire *MATTHEW 3:10; 7:19-20; 13:49-50.

According to God's WORD in the NEW COVENANT God's ETERNAL LAW (10 commandments) is the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTEOUSNES *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172.

God's 4th commandment is one of God's 10 commandments that give us the KNOWLEDGE of what sin is when broken *ROMANS 3:20. According to God's WORD if we break any one of God's 10 Commandments we stand guilty before God of SIN *JAMES 2:10-11.

According to God's WORD all those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN *HEBREWS 10:26-27 because they reject the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23. OBEDIENCE to God's LAW is not how we are saved it is the FRUIT of God's work in us as we BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD through love. If our faith has no fruit it is dead *JAMES 2:18-20; 26 and our tree will be cast down and thrown into the fire *MATTHEW 3:10; 7:19-20; 13:49-50.

It is JESUS that says all those who KNOWINGLY follow the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God are not following God brother not me *MATTHEW 15:3-9. Who then do we BELIEVE and FOLLOW God or men *ROMANS 3:4. Yep I know who I believe. You provide your own words. My words are not my own but God's WORD. It is the Word of God that will be our judge come judgment day *JOHN 12:47-48.

Now where is the scripture that says God’s 4th Commandment has now been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day? There is no scripture is there. If there is no scriprture for this tradition why do many follow it?

Are you here to share God's WORD or make false claims? Do you have any scripture to share in relation to the OP or are you just trying to discredit the owner of the OP while he is not here amd cannot respond?

Hope this helps
Then please discuss those quote from your leader.
 
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The way he’s using “fulfill” is in a way that means to fully preach it...

the Same word is used in Greek, pleroo, in Paul’s letter to the Romans

Romans 14:9
Through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; so that from Jerusalem, and round about unto Illyricum, I have fully preached the gospel of Christ.


It doesn’t mean he obeyed the law, and now we don’t need to. Paul fulfilling the gospel doesn’t mean we don’t need to obey the gospel any longer.
LK 24:44 proves otherwise.
 
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You refer to the word of website over the Word of God and do not wish to discuss the scriptures or the OP.

Not at all. This was in reference to your word of website that used quotes from EGW applied out of context to make straw man arguments that do not exist or to make an author appear to say something that they are not saying. Many do the same with the scriptures.

You have refuted nothing but made false claims and allegations about a works based salvation that no one believes or teaches based on the word of website.

Has he replied to you?

It is not shouting but only emphasizing points of scripture. I will take your comments on board. Thankyou.
Those words are words that can be found on SDA sites.
 
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Then please discuss those quote from your leader.

Try reading the post and scriptures you are quoting from. You have been provided His Word and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW it over the teachings and traditions of men that seek to break the commandments of God. JESUS says all those who follow the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God are not following God *MATTHEW 15:3:9. I believe God's WORD how about you?
 
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Try reading the post and scriptures you are quoting from.
I did and made a request based on that post. Now you're going to say you responded to my post. But your response doesn't relate to anything in my post. That's a non response.
 
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I did and made a request based on that post. Now you're going to say you responded to my post. But your response doesn't relate to anything in my post. That's a non response.

Indeed it is hard to see what what one does not wish to. Your request was already answered in the very post you quoted from.
 
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Try reading the post and scriptures you are quoting from. You have been provided His Word and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW it over the teachings and traditions of men that seek to break the commandments of God. JESUS says all those who follow the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God are not following God *MATTHEW 15:3:9. I believe God's WORD how about you?
Is it wrong to take a bribe?
 
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