What's Your Biggest Frustration with Hearing God

The starting point of hearing God's voice is taking note of your conscience.

Julie Carruth said:

I love this part of the story. "Feeling is not religion." I don't have very many emotional experiences in church. I look around and see others that seem to experience more of God than I do, and it makes me wonder if I'm missing something.

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You're not alone. I used to be very outwardly emotional, but my personality has changed and now I'm not. In some ways I miss the old me, but the new me is more stable, so I'll take it.

Julie Carruth said:

I love this part of the story. "Feeling is not religion." I don't have very many emotional experiences in church. I look around and see others that seem to experience more of God than I do, and it makes me wonder if I'm missing something.

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At whatever place you are God has an answer for you. There's no need to be mystified in regard to this. If you're a Christian you have a loving Heavenly Father who wants to give you direction. He said in James, "If any of you lacks wisdom, you should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to you." James 1: 5

This is a important question you've asked, "Are you missing something?" God will enlighten you yeah or nay. In a sense there's not one of us who aren't missing something for none of us are perfect. As for having emotional experiences not exactly sure what you mean by this? Are you saying they seem to have more manifestations of God's actual presence in their lives?

There are things we can do that can bring us more into his manifested presence as in private devotion of praise and worship each day, fasting as well can put us into the place of just being able to hear God more clearly but that doesn't mean God loves you more or less but rather you've created the spiritual atmosphere about you where you're more receptive to hear God's voice.

I dont think the apostles ever taught how to hear God's voice. I wonder why that is.

W2L said:

I dont think the apostles ever taught how to hear God's voice. I wonder why that is.

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Because at that time there weren't any foolish cessationist going around teaching it was impossible.

Francis Drake said:

Because at that time there weren't any foolish cessationist going around teaching it was impossible.

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At least they dont follow fake apostles.

Francis Drake said:

Because at that time there weren't any foolish cessationist going around teaching it was impossible.

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This is a fellowship forum, its not for bashing people

W2L said:

This is a fellowship forum, its not for bashing people

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You mean like the "fake apostles" you refer to above, or is that fair game?

W2L said:

I dont think the apostles ever taught how to hear God's voice. I wonder why that is.

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They didn't need to teach it because until false teachers started attacking it, they simply presumed the scriptures were true.
Additionally, they lived among believers who regularly heard God speak, believers who were encouraged instead of damned as fakes.
You cannot move in the gifts if you are deaf to God's voice.-
!Cor14v26What then shall we say, brothers? When you come together, everyone has a psalm or a teaching, a revelation, a tongue, or an interpretation. All of these must be done to build up the church.

Francis Drake said:

You mean like the "fake apostles" you refer to above, or is that fair game?

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You started the bashing, i simply responded.

Francis Drake said:

Because at that time there weren't any foolish cessationist going around teaching it was impossible.

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Wow friend, That is a pretty large jump there.
I believe it is much easier to prove that God speaks through His Word to us today more than any other method.
If you want to believe the gifts are still in existence that is fine however I would want to make sure the "voices" that you are hearing and speaking are the correct ones?

How would you do this?
Well it would have to be by matching those voices to the Word of God [The Bible] right?

Well that can get really interesting when people of all different kinds nationalities have to attend colleges to learn other languages so they can become missionaries to carry God's Word in [The Bible] form to other nations.
So no matter where you wanna divide the Word, Just make sure it is correctly divided and applied.

GTW27 said:

When the 3rd time happens, when you are there, be prepared to listen. Long ago, I heard The Lord speak, "My son, go down to the river". So I left the house, went down the street, and entered the woods. When I got to the river I stood there and once again I heard The Lord say, "My son, what do you see?" I looked at the river and it was cloudy from raining the night before. So I said "the river is cloudy". There was a pause, then I heard, "So you see how the river has turned cloudy, that is how my people have become. My son, take them out of their cloudiness." And if I truly think about it, He has been doing that through me ever since.

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I had not seen this reply. Thank you.

So far there hasn't been a third time though,not as yet anyway.

Southernscotty said:

Wow friend, That is a pretty large jump there.
I believe it is much easier to prove that God speaks through His Word to us today more than any other method.

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Nonsense.
If it were that easy, how come there are thousands of conflicting denominations, cults and bible teachers all claiming to teach accurately from scripture.

If you want to believe the gifts are still in existence that is fine however I would want to make sure the "voices" that you are hearing and speaking are the correct ones?

How would you do this?
Well it would have to be by matching those voices to the Word of God [The Bible] right?

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Again nonsense.
Has God ever told you to visit a specific city from your bible.
Has he ever told you which house to buy by checking your bible?
Has he ever told you which business to buy from your bible?

I have countless rhema words, prophecies, and visions from over 50 years. Some I have validated from scripture, but the vast majority have had no connection with scriptural issues.

Well that can get really interesting when people of all different kinds nationalities have to attend colleges to learn other languages so they can become missionaries to carry God's Word in [The Bible] form to other nations.
So no matter where you wanna divide the Word, Just make sure it is correctly divided and applied.

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Francis Drake said:

, but the vast majority have had no connection with scriptural issues.

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Interesting in spite of

1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

How would one know that is from God unless it concurs with scripture.
2 Peter 2:1
Now there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.

Jeremiah 29:8
For this is what the LORD of Hosts, the God of Israel, says: 'Do not be deceived by the prophets and diviners among you, and do not listen to the dreams you elicit from them.

Proverbs 14:15
The simple believeth every word: but the prudent man looketh well to his going.

Matthew 4:4,7,10,11
But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God…

Francis Drake said:

Again nonsense.
Has God ever told you to visit a specific city from your bible.
Has he ever told you which house to buy by checking your bible?
Has he ever told you which business to buy from your bible?

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No, Because He speaks through His Word [The complete canon of scriptures] and His Word is the perfect authority. He doesn't have to show signs and wonders anymore

Southernscotty said:

Interesting in spite of

1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

How would one know that is from God unless it concurs with scripture.
2 Peter 2:1
Now there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.

Jeremiah 29:8
For this is what the LORD of Hosts, the God of Israel, says: 'Do not be deceived by the prophets and diviners among you, and do not listen to the dreams you elicit from them.

Proverbs 14:15
The simple believeth every word: but the prudent man looketh well to his going.

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You are to be applauded for making a list of scriptures. Did it take you long?
The fact that they are irrelevant seems to fly right over your head.

Matthew 4:4,7,10,11
But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God…

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You are so locked into your blindness and deafness that you didn't see Jesus is talking about words proceeding from the mouth of God

No, Because He speaks through His Word [The complete canon of scriptures] and His Word is the perfect authority. He doesn't have to show signs and wonders anymore

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So Jesus got it wrong did he?
Matt10v19And when they deliver you up, do not be anxious how or what you should speak; for in that hour you will be given what you should say, 20for you are not those speaking, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you.
The above states clearly that its not about know the bible, but the Spirit of God himself speaking.

Mark13v11But when they might lead you away, delivering you up, do not be anxious beforehand what you should say; but whatever might be given to you in that hour, speak that. For you are not those speaking, but the Holy Spirit.
These two verses were not just about apostolic times, but times yet to come.
Using your man made traditions to pervert what Jesus said above leaves the saints unable to do what Jesus instructed in times of crisis.
Do you seriously think Jesus is talking about quoting scriptures to their godless captors?

Francis Drake said:

So Jesus got it wrong did he?
Matt10v19And when they deliver you up, do not be anxious how or what you should speak; for in that hour you will be given what you should say, 20for you are not those speaking, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you.
The above states clearly that its not about know the bible, but the Spirit of God himself speaking.

Mark13v11But when they might lead you away, delivering you up, do not be anxious beforehand what you should say; but whatever might be given to you in that hour, speak that. For you are not those speaking, but the Holy Spirit.

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Ok let's break this down....
1. Who was Jesus speaking too? JEWS

Matt 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.


I won't continue with this because you are not 2 Tim 2:15 the Word of God so you will not understand who is talking who obsessively
Blessings

One of my favorite scriptures to recall is the beginning of James' Epistle. He talks about how we should look at God's tests as an actual positive thing to be thankful for. And how we should see that it's not him pushing us down, it's these layers of sinfulness that are in need of the tests. That's what's warranting them. So many times we're just way too afraid to hear God. We put on these barriers. When we put on barriers we seek the voice of our flesh or a deceiver instead of God. And then when God speaks up, we don't even realize it.

We're afraid to change our ways, to really analyze our flaws. But if we could realize how fast God can make an improvement in us when we actually follow him. No it's not always fast, it's often hard. But when you get a few of those flashes or big improvements, you get this hunger in you that you should never forget. You just have to know that it is possible to make the biggest changes, and God is always way more devoted to your improvement than you could ever be.

Our flesh wants us to seek the soonest joy rather than the fullest joy that comes from a fight that fills us with actually warranted pride. That allows us to see all the little details of the world with no fear and actually some appreciation.. from the small pretty things to the confusing things, and see the great creator and King behind it all. To see the biggest beauty and strength on this Earth. No other joy comes close to that.

We have to remove the barriers to hear God clearer and more often. But to say we're frightened of the world is an understatement. If you could count all your actual insecurities.. you'd be surprised. And I'd bet there's some insecurities you don't take seriously that you should.

Southernscotty said:

Ok let's break this down....
1. Who was Jesus speaking too? JEWS

Matt 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

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Now you are being ridiculous.
Applying that rule, you've just destroyed the gospel message to the gentiles. Maybe we should rip the gospels completely out of the bible seeing it was only to the lost tribes!

But for someone who throws 2tim2v15 around so boastfully, you are making a sloppy job of "accurately handling the word of truth".

If you bother to read the context of Matt 15:24 (But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.) you would see that Jesus was deliberately goading a Canaanite woman so He could demonstrate her huge faith to his disciples.
28Then Jesus answering said to her, “O woman, great is your faith. It shall be to you as you desire.” And her daughter was healed from that very hour.
Since when did Canaanites become a part of your lost tribes?

Jesus was certainly speaking to the 12 apostles, because he was about to send them out on a ministry journey.
But anyone reading it with discernment would understand that his words did not come to pass at that time. ie. the 12 returned safely and were not dragged before kings etc.
So part of Jesus's words applied immediately, and part for the period of the second coming and spanning all times between, as can be seen when the apostles were interrogated in the book of Acts.

Matt10v22And you will be hated by all on account of My name; but the one having endured to the end, he will be saved.
23And whenever they persecute you in one city, flee to the next. For truly I say to you, you shall not have completed the cities of Israel until the Son of Man comes.

But given that the gentiles were grafted into the same rootstock as the Jews, that promise also applied to them. So they also had the same Holy Spirit speaking through them when they were put on trial before kings and governors.

I won't continue with this because you are not 2 Tim 2:15 the Word of God so you will not understand who is talking who obsessively

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As I said, for someone who uses that verse as a boast, you are doing a sloppy job.

Julie Carruth said:

Hello,
I am thankful and blessed to be a part of this forum. I have been a Christian for many years but was never taught how to hear God's voice in the church. As I raise my two daughters, I realize that they face the same situation. I do my best to teach them how to hear God but feel like I could do so much better.

I asked my 14-year-old daughter today if she feels that she hears from God and she said no. I tried to give her some examples of how God can talk to her and that it doesn't need to be a "voice" that you hear.

I guess my question here is what do you find your biggest frustrations are about hearing God? How do you feel you best hear from God?

I look forward to hearing your responses. May God bless you abundantly.

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I was that way, too. Finally, finally, someone spilled the beans on hearing God. When you pray (do so in your head not audibly so the Devil has not one idea what was said), quit talking after you say what you need to say. And, then be quiet (in your head, no thinking) and listen for 5 to 10 minutes. Ideas will pop into your head (things you couldn't possible know) related to what you prayed about. That's God (Holy Spirit) talking to you.

The best praying happens when you are quiet and listening (in your head not for some audible voice).