Revelation 2:10 "fear not...ye shall have tribulation 10 days"

is the 10 days literal or symbolic


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Is the 10 days in this passage a literal 10 days or symbolic of some other amount of time? Thanks

Revelation 2:

9 I have known thy works, and tribulation, and poverty — yet thou art rich — and the blasphemy of those saying themselves to be Jews and are not, but [are] a synagogue of the Satan.
10 ‘No be fearing the things that thou art about to be suffering<3958>,
Behold! the Devil is about to cast ye to a prison<5438>, that ye may be tried,
and ye shall have tribulation<2347> ten days;
become thou faithful unto death, and I will give to thee the crown of the life.

Genesis 1:1 (NKJV)
"ten days"

Daniel 1 shows Daniel being tried for 10 days:


Daniel 1:
8 And Daniel purposeth in his heart that he will not pollute himself with the king’s portion of food, and with the wine of his drinking, and he seeketh of the chief of the eunuchs that he may not pollute himself.

12Try, I pray thee, thy servants, ten days; and they give to us of the vegetables, and we eat, and water, and we drink;
13 and our appearance is seen before thee, and the appearance of the lads who are eating the king’s portion of food, and as thou seest — deal with thy servants.’
14 And he hearkeneth to them, to this word, and trieth them ten days:
15 and at the end of ten days their appearance hath appeared better and fatter in flesh then any of the lads who are eating the king’s portion of food.
16 And the Meltzar is taking away their portion of food, and the wine of their drink, and is giving to them vegetables.


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The words "day" and "hour" are both often used in scripture to speak of times of undefined length. This is not a matter of "spiritualizing" prophetic scriptures, but of understanding commonly used figures of speech.

In actual fact, the early church went through ten specific periods of persecution before Christianty became officially tolerated.

So it is literal, but only when the word "day" is understood as a figure of speech for a period of time.
 
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Is the 10 days in this passage a literal 10 days or symbolic of some other amount of time?
It is literally symbolic (meaning it is literally time, given in symbol, 1 prophetic day = 1 literal year), see Numbers 14:34; Ezekiel 4:6; thus AD 303-313, that took place in the period of the second church (Smyrna) age (Revelation 2:11).
 
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The ten days starting with Rosh Hashanah and ending with Yom Kippur are called the days of awe. It starts with the feast of trumpets (Rosh Hashanah) which sounds like the devil being cast out into the earth. After ten days comes Yom Kippur, the day of Atonement.
 
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The ten days starting with Rosh Hashanah and ending with Yom Kippur are called the days of awe.
It starts with the feast of trumpets (Rosh Hashanah) which sounds like the devil being cast out into the earth. After ten days comes Yom Kippur, the day of Atonement.
Very interesting. The 7th trump appears to sound after 2 Witnesses are "raptured" at the beginning of the Harvest

Revelation 11:12
12 I heard a loud Voice from heaven saying to them, "ascend ye here!" And they ascended into heaven in the cloud, and their enemies saw them.

Revelation 11:
11 And the seventh Messenger trumpets and became great voices/sounds in the heaven saying "became the Kingdom of the world of the Lord of us and of the Christ of Him and He shall be reigning into the ages of the Ages.
14 The second woe is past. Behold, the third woe comes quickly.
15 And the seventh Messenger trumpets and became great voices/sounds in the heaven saying "became the Kingdom of the world of the Lord of us and of the Christ of Him and He shall be reigning into the ages of the Ages.

Joshua 6:4
and seven priests do bear seven trumpets of the jubilee before the ark, and on the seventh day ye compass the City seven times,
and the priests blow with the trumpets,


Revelation 8:6
And the seven Messengers having the seven trumpets make ready themselves, that they should be trumpeting
[Joshua 6:4]

Revelation 8 Commentary- Plagued by Trumpets


The Roman Assault on Israel Began around the Feast of Trumpets Hence the Seven Trumpets of Revelation—Thus Began the Jewish War.

In A.D. 66 while Judea was aflame in bloodshed, riot and revolt, Rome responded by sending the 12th legion in addition to thousands of auxiliaries from neighboring kingdoms. These troops, as if orchestrated by God, arrived in Jerusalem in the Jewish month of Tishri, a month that begins with the Feast of Trumpets. Called the Day of Judgment, it is on this day that trumpets sound the somber days of atonement and final judgment (Leviticus 23:24, Numbers 29:1). Thus began the Jewish War.3
The A.D. 70 Doctrine View, Interpretation, Exposition and Commentary of Revelation 8: In Every Event that Fulfills the Seven Trumpets of Revelation an Audible Trumpet Sound Was Heard.


The Sound Of The Trumpet

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For if the Trumpet makes an uncertain sound, who will prepare for battle?
(1 Corinthians 14:8).

The Apostle Paul used the Roman military trumpet as a metaphor for spiritual battle. First-century historian Josephus wrote that the Roman army did nothing, except by trumpet signals. He listed three specific trumpet sounds, all of which can be devotionally applied.

The first trumpet was a signal to prepare to depart. "Now when they are to go out of their camp, the trumpet gives a sound."(1) The Bible believer should be ready to depart swiftly for any field of conflict as ordered, always ready to fight the good fight of faith (1 Tim. 6:12; 2 Tim. 4:7).

The second trumpet was a signal to form up: "Then do the trumpets sound again, to order them to get ready for the march."(1) At this stage, a believer should have on the whole armor of God. The Lord wants skilled warriors, lined up with others, who will do battle against the wiles of the Devil (Eph. 6:11).

The third trumpet sound was the order to march: "Then do the trumpets give a sound a third time, that they are to go out."(1) Some have suggested that this is the equivalent of "the last trumpet" that Paul referred to in 1 Corinthians 15:52 concerning the Rapture of the church: Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed--in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed (1 Cor. 15:51-52).

This trumpet may also point to the personal resolve of a believer to march out to serve Christ, to stand against all challenges to God's kingdom, and to be willing to endure hardships like a good soldier (2 Tim. 2:3).

Josephus also noted that before the army marched out, the soldiers raised their right hands high and shouted in martial fury, "We are ready!" Are you?
 
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Any other views? Notice it turns from the singular to the plural.......

Revelation 2:
9 I have known thy works, and tribulation, and poverty — yet thou art rich — and the blasphemy of those saying themselves to be Jews and are not, but [are] a synagogue of the Satan.
10 ‘Fear not of the things that thou art about to be suffering,
behold! the Devil is about to cast you to a prison<5438>, that ye may be being tried, and ye shall have tribulation ten days.
Be thou becoming faithful unto death, and I will give to thee the Crown of the Life.
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Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges

10. Fear none of] Read simply Fear not. those things which thou shalt suffer] Probably refer primarily to a persecution immediately impending; but they are no doubt meant to apply also to the subsequent persecutions of the Church there, especially to the famous one, under the Antonines, in which Polycarp the Bishop suffered martyrdom, in a.d. 155. It will depend on the date assigned to this Book, whether Polycarp can have been Bishop at the time of this message.
It is to be noted that the Jews were specially active in urging his execution, though officially it was the act of the pagan magistrates.

that ye may be tried] Or, tempted: it is probably rather the Devil’s object in raising the persecution than God’s in permitting it that is meant. Cf. Luke 22:31.

ten days] Possibly a half proverbial expression for a short time, as we might say “a week or two.” And no doubt the notion of a short and definite time is intended: but from the important significance in this book of definite numbers, and not least of definite measures of time, it is probable that something more is intended too—whether that the persecution would last ten years, or what, it would be rash to say.

be thou] Lit., become—not implying that he was not perfectly faithful now, but= “prove thyself,” “quit thyself as.”

a crown of life] i.e. eternal life as a crown; so St James 1:12. The phrase is like “the crown of glory” in 1 Peter 5:4, and probably “the crown of righteousness,” 2 Timothy 4:8. As in the parallel promise, Revelation 3:21, the throne is in the fullest sense a royal throne, the crown here is probably a royal crown (so Trench Synonyms), not a mere garland of victory.

Throughout this Book the imagery is Jewish not Gentile, and all who are finally redeemed are Kings, Revelation 5:12. Both the thrones and the crowns of the elders, Revelation 4:4; Revelation 4:10, might be ensigns of dignity less than royal, but not the crown of the Rider on the White Horse, Revelation 6:3. Moreover the Crown of Thorns for which all the Evangelists use the same word as here was certainly a counterfeit of royalty. On the other hand in Revelation 19:12 the King of Kings and Lord of Lords has on His head many diadems, the unmistakeable technical name for royal crowns, and there are diadems on the heads of the Dragon, Revelation 12:3, and on the horns of the Beast, Revelation 13:1.
 
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I felt sure I would generate more interest on that verse.

It seems to go with the Post Pentecost/1st century Jewish Wars, pre 70AD

"Ye will hear of battles and rumors of battles" 1st century concluding in Judea/Jerusalem 70ad
Matt 24:6 Wars rumors of Wars

Matthew 24:
6 “And you will hear of battles and rumors of battles. See that you are not troubled;
for all these things must come to pass,
but the end is not yet.

Mark 13:
7 “But when you hear of battles and rumors of battles, do not be troubled;
for such things must happen,
but the end is not yet.

Luke 21:
9 “But when you hear of battles and commotions/tumults, do not be terrified;
for these things must come to pass first,
but the end is not immediate.”


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