Bernie will be the next President of the USA

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We'll see. The democrats did everything they could to keep him out of the general election last time around. If Hillary tries for an unsuccessful third (or fourth, is it?) attempt, Bernie's going to have to sit down lest he invoke their wrath.
Yeah we'll see about that.
 
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Bernie Sanders Breaks Fundraising Record

Yep, he set fundraising record in no time once he announced his run for 2020...

All those donations and no big corporate money. As people realize that he's the ONLY candidate (except perhaps Tulsi) who is not bought and owned by big money interests he will continue to rise in popularity.

By the end of the week his donations totaled more than $10 million, and 40% of that is from new donors. Additionally he has over one million volunteers.

Bernie is not messing around, he means business, and he is going to steamroll his way into the White House.

His speech today has set the momentum - the Bernie bus is rolling and not stopping, hop aboard!

BERNIE 2020

Considering he couldn't beat Clinton, and Clinton couldn't beat Trump, it would be like the Republicans running Romney instead. They would have better chances of running Al Gore...except he's ancient history now, not that Bernie is a spring chicken.
 
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Yeah we'll see about that.


All Im saying is be careful when someone is trying to sell you socialism. Be careful of any ism in my opinion. I live in it and I can tell you first hand experience that the "free stuff" isnt really free.
 
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Bernie Sanders Breaks Fundraising Record

Yep, he set fundraising record in no time once he announced his run for 2020...

All those donations and no big corporate money. As people realize that he's the ONLY candidate (except perhaps Tulsi) who is not bought and owned by big money interests he will continue to rise in popularity.

By the end of the week his donations totaled more than $10 million, and 40% of that is from new donors. Additionally he has over one million volunteers.

Bernie is not messing around, he means business, and he is going to steamroll his way into the White House.

His speech today has set the momentum - the Bernie bus is rolling and not stopping, hop aboard!

BERNIE 2020

Doubtful...After these investigations conclude, and people realize we spent 10 million$ on investigations to that will conclude the "President played off a few strippers to be quiet" which is not illegal. No one will care.

If the economy is growing, unemployment, and inflation remains low, President Trump will stroll back into office.

BTW, if you want to see what Medicare for all will look like, just go to the DMV, or, the Social Security Office...you will see
 
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So waiting a year for cancer treatment is quick and efficient? It happens. I can assure you they are, my uncle just died in a hallway, couldnt get a room. We cant get pipelines to be built here to get oil to the coast to sell it on the international stage so we sell it to the states for 30% less its actual value, GM and many other large corporations are packing up and leaving Canada and the government has passed a bill that makes it impossible to put in anymore pipelines in Canada.

Back to healthcare, all of the nurses and doctors are going to the US so they can be paid more and it is almost impossible to get a family GP as many are already overworked. Now Im not saying the US is the end-all-to-be-all but Ive been there and it seems to have it figured out much better than we have.
I'm sorry for your uncle. However, I don't believe that is the norm in Canada. As you said, "it happens". Guess what - "it happens" here in the US. You want to know what else happens in the US a lot more than dying in the hallway? Dying in your home because you have no insurance because when you try to get insurance your cancer is considered a "pre-existing condition" so you're not insurable. You know what else happens in the US? People go through bad illnesses and get through them but the medical bills are so exorbitant that despite having the best insurance available they can't afford their own illness and the treatment and medication needed so they go bankrupt and lose everything. Who in Canada has lost everything because they owed that much in medical bills? Nobody, that's who.

As for your oil, it's about time your country start taking steps to stop the genocide and terrible treatment of your first nations people by raking their sands for oil to line the pockets of Trudeau and company. Good for them to have no more pipelines, now stop raking the sands. Go with the future of energy and pioneer renewable energy like solar and wind instead of crying about how hard the oil business is for the nation.

I've been to Canada much more than you've been to the US and I have much deeper insight and information into Canadian life than you have about American life. Believe me, you're way off on the healthcare issue.
 
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Wouldn't be the first time! :) I didn't think Trump was going to be president, either.
Ditto. And now I think I should have seen it coming.

I'd vote for Sanders...but then, this time, I'd vote for a dill pickle.
 
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All Im saying is be careful when someone is trying to sell you socialism. Be careful of any ism in my opinion. I live in it and I can tell you first hand experience that the "free stuff" isnt really free.
I'm careful. By the way, you should know that most conservatives in the US are now saying that Canada, Denmark, Sweden, UK, etc. are not socialist countries despite having nationalized health care of some sort. They are saying that universal heatlh care is a social service offered by capitalist countries such as Canada, Denmark, etc. So it's not being considered "socialism" by American conservatives anymore - maybe you and Canadian conservatives consider it to be but the American ones are moving on from that.

As for "free stuff", nobody believes it is "free" like that. But I can tell you this, as someone who has first hand experience - corporate-driven health care seeks to make money off of you and does not have your health or well-being in mind, and they will do whatever they can to make money off of you even if it means you get sick or even die. Also, you will pay through the nose for this "privilege" of having healthcare-for-profit insurance companies tormenting you and trying to kill you. You have never seen anything like it in Canada.
 
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As for your oil, it's about time your country start taking steps to stop the genocide and terrible treatment of your first nations people by raking their sands for oil to line the pockets of Trudeau and company. Good for them to have no more pipelines, now stop raking the sands. Go with the future of energy and pioneer renewable energy like solar and wind instead of crying about how hard the oil business is for the nation.

Now this is where I get a bit frustrated, when Americans tell me that we treat Indians terribly. No matter what movie stars might tell you, it is NOT the case. Indian Affairs is Canada's biggest budget, thats right, we spend more money on Indian Affairs than anything else. More than defence, more than healthcare, more than education, more than infrastructure. In some cases more than multiple sectors together.

The reason why they are in bad shape is because they have chiefs that embezzle money and treat their people terribly. That is the main reason, we give them money without asking for them to account for it. It is a shame that we hold down a people in such a terrible way instead of stopping the payments, giving them real accountable help and making sure they go to school (which is absolutely free to them) and further themselves to break the cycle. That is real change.

Renewables are a great idea however they are very expensive and do not work in all situations. Batteries in cars do not work well in the winters of Canada (its cold here, remember?) and your Tesla will only go 100 miles on a charge. So before you start to criticize your northern socialist neighbor (your friend in socialism) think about what you are criticizing.
 
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Doubtful...After these investigations conclude, and people realize we spent 10 million$ on investigations to that will conclude the "President played off a few strippers to be quiet" which is not illegal. No one will care.

If the economy is growing, unemployment, and inflation remains low, President Trump will stroll back into office.

BTW, if you want to see what Medicare for all will look like, just go to the DMV, or, the Social Security Office...you will see
Nobody cares about the investigations or what comes of them. The middle class is getting squeezed by Trump and his ilk and that will be his undoing. Bernie will bring that to light and that's why people will overwhelmingly vote for Bernie over Trump (like they would have last time).

As for Medicare, I've seen what it looks like first hand. It exists. If you think someone needs to look at DMV (state-run privatized agencies) then you are obviously unaware that Medicare actually does exist already and you can look right at it and see that it's the best healthcare available in the US. It exists for everyone who is 65 and over. Having had two very ill parents for many years I was able to see directly how superior it is in every way to my private health insurance, the "Cadillac plan" from one of the top health insurance providers. So, yeah, I already have seen Medicare and how awesome it is and how it should be available for ALL.

In fact, if it is extended to all people it will be even better because right now it covers the age demographic with the highest number of illnesses. Expand it to cover young, healthy people who won't need it and Medicare will become even better than it already is, and it's already the best coverage in the US.
 
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I've been to Canada much more than you've been to the US and I have much deeper insight and information into Canadian life than you have about American life. Believe me, you're way off on the healthcare issue.
I have lived about half of my adult life in each country working in the healthcare sector as a nurse and nurse practitioner in primary and emergency care. I am not going to take sides in the debate, but I would say that in my experience he is not far off in his claims about the Canadian system, especially waiting times and access to both specialists and (in many areas) primary care providers. You also raise valid concerns about the US system.

Both systems have some big issues with no easy answers, and both systems have some definite advantages.
 
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I have lived about half of my adult life in each country working in the healthcare sector as a nurse and nurse practitioner in primary and emergency care. I am not going to take sides in the debate, but I would say that in my experience he is not far off in his claims about the Canadian system, especially waiting times and access to both specialists and (in many areas) primary care providers. You also raise valid concerns about the US system.

Both systems have some big issues with no easy answers, and both systems have some definite advantages.
Correct, by no way am I saying that the US system is perfect. I think that the US system is better if they couldn't deny you coverage of pre existing conditions. I also think that the government should control these insurance companies regulating how much they can charge you regardless of your history.
 
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You're dreaming. If he wants to spend like a European, then he's going to have to tax like one.

We could cut the defense budget by 10% freeing up $61,000,000,000 and still outspend the next 7 countries with the top defense budgets.
 
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Approximately what do y'all pay per month in taxes?
My rate is 35% of my salary, that doesnt include state tax on food, consumables or fuel. We also have a carbon tax here (which is absurd) that taxes me for trying to stay alive such as heating my home. I paid $200 dollars to heat my home last month of which a carbon tax of $45 was applied. My electricity bill was $300 and the carbon tax on that was $60. So when you hear of AOC and all the rest telling you of the green new deal is going to be so awesome and that carbon taxes are a great way to get people to change their habits, it does nothing. I have to drive to work, I have to heat my home and I have to turn the lights on. Its basically just a way to get money out of my pocket and into the governments, it is punishing.

It does nothing to stop the largest polluters such as China and India.
 
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Bernie is not messing around, he means business, and he is going to steamroll his way into the White House.

I doubt it but he could add a lot to the voter turnout if he chooses to do so. I’m hoping that all the Democrat contenders gather behind whoever becomes the nominated Democrat and use their political pull & speeches to get all to votes they would have gotten and unify behind whoever is nominated.

This certainly would guaranty a Trump defeat; which is needed more than ever before for the sake of our country’s future.

btw: I’m betting on Elizabeth Warren

In my point of view
 
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I paid $200 dollars to heat my home last month of which a carbon tax of $45 was applied.

I pay taxes on my social security benefits so in effect I am paying a tax on a tax which I consider double taxation.
 
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