Is the Democratic National Party transitioning to the Democratic Socialist Party?

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Mr. David, the portion of the article I posted addressed what you seem to not understand based on your comment. :sorry: It also addresses the differences between what you consider socialism and the socialist elements which already exist and the new form of socialism which has become a platform for house Democrats.

Again, the concept of DEMOCRATIC socialism is what you find in those Scandinavian states...the existence of a welfare state within a democratic free market.

It really isn’t that difficult you know....
 
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Again, the concept of DEMOCRATIC socialism is what you find in those Scandinavian states...the existence of a welfare state within a democratic free market.

It really isn’t that difficult you know....

And yet this thread is about the US Democratic party transitioning to a new form of Socialism which is not compatible with Capitalism, a radical form of Socialism which has more in common with countries like: Cambodia, Cuba, China, East Germany, Ethiopia, North Korea, Poland, Romania, USSR, and Venezuela.
 
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Again, the concept of DEMOCRATIC socialism is what you find in those Scandinavian states...the existence of a welfare state within a democratic free market.

It really isn’t that difficult you know....
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Scandinavia is not socialist. Sweden, Denmark, Norway they don't even have a minimum wage.
Sweden's education system is based on the principles of the free market economist Milton Friedman.
These are countries that are fundamentally capitalist, have relatively low corporation tax, significantly lower than the US -- but they redistribute more money.
 
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Look at some of the front runners:

Bernie Sanders - a Democratic Socialist
Alexandria Cortiz - a Democratic Socialist - thought not a front runner - very popular in the press etc.
Kamala Harris - not self defining as a socialist like the two above, but certainly leans towards Democratic Socialist strategies.

on top of that:

64 percent say Democratic Party supports socialism, says poll

Thoughts?

Yes, and that is why they will most likely go down in flames in 2020.
 
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And yet this thread is about the US Democratic party transitioning to a new form of Socialism which is not compatible with Capitalism, a radical form of Socialism which has more in common with countries like: Cambodia, Cuba, China, East Germany, Ethiopia, North Korea, Poland, Romania, USSR, and Venezuela.

In that case, the “thread” doesn’t know what it’s talking about...
 
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Scandinavia is not socialist. Sweden, Denmark, Norway they don't even have a minimum wage.
Sweden's education system is based on the principles of the free market economist Milton Friedman.
These are countries that are fundamentally capitalist, have relatively low corporation tax, significantly lower than the US -- but they redistribute more money.

Yes, you’re describing Democratic Socialism...! The formation of a welfare state within a free-market system!

Good grief...
 
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Look at some of the front runners:

Bernie Sanders - a Democratic Socialist
Alexandria Cortiz - a Democratic Socialist - thought not a front runner - very popular in the press etc.
Kamala Harris - not self defining as a socialist like the two above, but certainly leans towards Democratic Socialist strategies.

on top of that:

64 percent say Democratic Party supports socialism, says poll

Thoughts?
Let's hope so! The current Democratic Party is simply Republican lite - they are Republicans who are open about supporting gay marriage and being pro-choice. As far as Kamala Harris, I don't see how being an oppressor to minorities by putting record amounts of them into jail and feeding the prison-industrial-complex makes her socialist in any way. She's pretty much a Republican with a D next to her name just like most of them (Hillary, Biden, Booker, etc.).
 
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Yes. It's something I'd like to change.
How soon after they got on medicare did they start demanding government ownership of the means of production?

I like medicare. I don't want it to change. And it would be stupid to change it on account of a ideological abstraction.
 
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And yet this thread is about the US Democratic party transitioning to a new form of Socialism which is not compatible with Capitalism, a radical form of Socialism which has more in common with countries like: Cambodia, Cuba, China, East Germany, Ethiopia, North Korea, Poland, Romania, USSR, and Venezuela.

Can you back that up?
 
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You would've taken your parents off Medicare if you could have?
You and speedy may have missed my previous posts. I will keep it short and sweet. I would like to FIX the current medical care issues so that Medicare is unnecessary. Just scrapping Medicare right now would be ridiculous. Medical care problems need to be fixed first.
 
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You and speedy may have missed my previous posts. I will keep it short and sweet. I would like to FIX the current medical care issues so that Medicare is unnecessary. Just scrapping Medicare right now would be ridiculous. Medical care problems need to be fixed first.
What problems specifically would need to be fixed to make medicare unnecessary?
 
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You and speedy may have missed my previous posts. I will keep it short and sweet. I would like to FIX the current medical care issues so that Medicare is unnecessary. Just scrapping Medicare right now would be ridiculous. Medical care problems need to be fixed first.

Fair enough -- the only issue is that there are two types of people who want to replace our current Medicare system:

1. People who want to replace it with a Universal Health Care system not unlike what a large majority of western civilization currently has,

and 2. People who decry 1. as "Socialism!" and flatly refuse to discuss it, but when asked for an alternative, fall strangely silent.
 
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Fair enough -- the only issue is that there are two types of people who want to replace our current Medicare system:

1. People who want to replace it with a Universal Health Care system not unlike what a large majority of western civilization currently has,

and 2. People who decry 1. as "Socialism!" and flatly refuse to discuss it, but when asked for an alternative, fall strangely silent.
That because they have no solution.
 
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