Crucifixion was Friday, 3 days and nights were literal

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Thank you for the scripture. :)

No prob. It's the main reason the Wednesday theory cannot possibly be correct.

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Love you man, and that's not a jest. I want reply anymore. Just do this, you say from Wed twilight to Sat at twilight. 72 hrs. would be from 3-6 pm Wed- Sat 3-6 pm this would put the resurrection in the daytime before sunset that starts Sunday. You don't have to reply in love Rodron
No need for you to reply either unless you want to.

Twilight isn't a three hour period as you say. It's an intermediate time right at the very changeover of day to night or night to day.

"Afterwards Joseph of Arimathea, who had been a secret disciple of Jesus for fear of the Jewish leaders, boldly asked Pilate for permission to take Jesus' body down; and Pilate told him to go ahead. So he came and took it away. Nicodemus, the man who had come to Jesus at night, came too, bringing a hundred pounds of embalming ointment made from myrrh and aloes. Together they wrapped Jesus' body in a long linen cloth saturated with the spices, as is the Jewish custom of burial. The place of crucifixion was near a grove of trees, where there was a new tomb, never used before. And so, because of the need for haste before the Sabbath, and because the tomb was close at hand, they laid him there" John.19:38‑42

They did not entomb Him right at 3 P.M. or lay Him down in the tomb over a 3 hour period. They took Him down sometime after His death which occurred shortly after 3 P.M. They entombed Him sometime after going to ask for the body, taking the body down, and preparing spices. They went through an anointing process of sorts, and lay the body in the tomb after these acts were all completed - just in the nick of time as it turned out. There was no coincidence with God.

If the time of the placing in the tomb was as I suggest - we have the following.

DDDDD*NNNNN (1st night) DDDDD (1st day) NNNNN (2nd night) DDDDD (2nd day) NNNNN (3rd night) DDDDD (3rd day)*(ressurection)NNNNN*(ascension)

3 days and 3 nights exactly.

"But He answered and said to them, “An evil and adulterous generation craves for a sign; and yet no sign will be given to it but the sign of Jonah the prophet; for just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the sea monster, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." Matthew 12:30-40

What had been crystal clear in the Hebrew language scriptures for some 800 years was equally clear to those hearing in Aramaic or who have read it later in Greek.
 
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....3 days and 3 nights exactly.

"But He answered and said to them, “An evil and adulterous generation craves for a sign; and yet no sign will be given to it but the sign of Jonah the prophet; for just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the sea monster, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." Matthew 12:30-40

.....

And, according to Wednesdayers, resurrected on the 4th day (really the 5th) instead of the 3rd, which no one believed until very recently.

Yet we're told over and over in Scripture, the resurrection was on the first day of the week, which is the third day since the handing over of Jesus and the crucifixion. There is no Wednesday scenario in which both of those can be true.
  • “suffer many things at the hands of the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law,crucified, resurrected third day (Matt. 16:21)
  • “delivered into the hands of men,” crucified, resurrected third day (Matt. 17:22)
  • “delivered over to the chief priests and the teachers of the law,” crucified, resurrected third day (Matt. 20:18-19, Mark 10:33-34)
  • “suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law,” crucified, resurrected third day (Luke 9:21-22)
  • “delivered over to the Gentiles,” crucified, resurrected third day (Luke 18:32-33)
  • “delivered over to the hands of sinners,” crucified, resurrected third day (Luke 24:7).
Cleopas' testimony drives the point home.

Luke 24:20 The chief priests and our rulers handed him over to be sentenced to death, and they crucified him; 21 but we had hoped that he was the one who was going to redeem Israel. And what is more, it is the third day since all this took place.​

Sunday was the third day, not just since the burial, but since the handing over and the crucifixion. Friday is our only option.
 
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And, according to Wednesdayers, resurrected on the 4th day instead of the 3rd, which no one believed until very recently.
That simply isn't true. We do not say that Jesus was resurrected on the 4th day.

This is the kind of thing you have been doing that got me bent out of shape before.

Let's start from scratch OK?

Did you even read the post before yours - namely post number 62? If not please do so.
Sunday was the third day, not just since the burial, but since the handing over and the crucifixion.
I will agree with you here - up to a point.

Sunday was indeed the 3rd day since "all of these things" took place. That would include the burial by the disciples and the posting of a guard by the authorities.
 
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Jesus said that just as Johan was 3 days and nights in the while, so Jesus would be 3 days and nights in the "heart of the earth" whatever that means. You claim it's the grave, but there's nothing analogous to the grave in Jonah's captivity to the whale.
Are you reading my posts? I did not claim that "in the heart of the earth" means the grave. And I also said that Jonah and the big fish was not analogous to the grave.
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But if "heart of the earth" is referring to Jesus' captivity to earthly judges, that is analogous. And the timeline of Jesus' captivity, from Thursday night to Sunday morning is 3 days and 3 nights.
That's what I said.

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But the grave analogy doesn't work on any level. He wasn't in the grave 3 nights, and there's nothing in the metaphor or the Jonah analogy to suggest the grave.
That is correct.
 
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...Let's start from scratch OK?

Let's.

Here is a chart of days. Explain how you can have a Wednesday crucifixion and a resurrection on Sunday the third day. Even if you you delay the count until Wednesday night, it still doesn't work.

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Sunday was indeed the 3rd day since "all of these things" took place. That would include the burial by the disciples and the posting of a guard by the authorities.

Oh the lengths you guys go to justify this view. Scripture tell us it's been 3 days since the handing over and crucifixion of Jesus. Real Luke 24:20. Read these passages.

  • “suffer many things at the hands of the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law,crucified, resurrected third day (Matt. 16:21)
  • “delivered into the hands of men,” crucified, resurrected third day (Matt. 17:22)
  • “delivered over to the chief priests and the teachers of the law,” crucified, resurrected third day (Matt. 20:18-19, Mark 10:33-34)
  • “suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law,” crucified, resurrected third day (Luke 9:21-22)
  • “delivered over to the Gentiles,” crucified, resurrected third day (Luke 18:32-33)
  • “delivered over to the hands of sinners,” crucified, resurrected third day (Luke 24:7).
 
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First day of unleavened bread is a Shabbat day, because no work should be done then.
In the first day there shall be to you a holy convocation, and in the seventh day a holy convocation; no manner of work shall be done in them, except that which every man must eat, that only may be done by you.
Exodus 12:16
In the first day you shall have a holy convocation. You shall do no regular work.

Lev. 23:7
The 1st and 7th day of ULB are called a holy convocation, never a "Shabbat." And 1st and 7th ULB differ from a Shabbat in that the preparation and cooking of food is specifically permitted. You quoted the scripture. "no manner of work shall be done in them, except that which every man must eat, that only may be done by you." This vs. does not mean eating. Since eating is permitted on all holy convocations it would not be necessary to specifically permit it in only one verse. See this from two Jewish sources. I'm just guessing here but I think Jews have a better understanding of the Torah, i.e. OT, than non-Jews
Sukkot
Five days later, on Tishri 15, the seven-day (eight in the Diaspora) festival of Sukkot begins. Its first and last days (or, first two and last two days outside of Israel) have restrictions similar to those for Rosh Hashanah: Most work is prohibited but cooking is allowed, with certain limitations.
Jewish festivals and holidays, from Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur to Tisha B'av

Passover
The festival occurred in Abib (Ex. xiii. 4; Deut. xvi. 1 et seq., where the New Moon is given as the memorial day of the Exodus), later named Nisan, and lasted seven days, from sunset on the fourteenth day to sunset on the twenty-first day; the first and the seventh days were set aside for holy convocation, no work being permitted on those days except such as was necessary in preparing food (Num. xxviii. 16-25). During the seven days of the festival leaven was not to be found in the habitations of the Hebrews (Ex. xii. 19, xiii. 7).
PASSOVER - JewishEncyclopedia.com
 
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Explain how you can have a Wednesday crucifixion and a resurrection on Sunday the third day.
You're the only one stressing Sunday morning for the resurrection. The scriptures you have used to show that only show that the women were coming to anoint Him on Sunday morning while still dark. He was long gone and the saints resurrected with Him were appearing in the city during the night.

While it is true that He was indeed resurrected on Sunday - He was also resurrected on Saturday. He was resurrected exactly 72 hrs. after being put into the grave at sundown Wednesday - which is also the start of the Thursday special sabbath.
“suffer many things at the hands of the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law,crucified, resurrected third day (Matt. 16:21)
  • “delivered into the hands of men,” crucified, resurrected third day (Matt. 17:22)
  • “delivered over to the chief priests and the teachers of the law,” crucified, resurrected third day (Matt. 20:18-19, Mark 10:33-34)
  • “suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law,” crucified, resurrected third day (Luke 9:21-22)
  • “delivered over to the Gentiles,” crucified, resurrected third day (Luke 18:32-33)
  • “delivered over to the hands of sinners,” crucified, resurrected third day (Luke 24:7).

Exactly so.

But you rather purposefully left out the most pertinent part of each quote.

The scriptures say variously - "on the 3rd day"; after 3 days; in 3 days; 3 days and 3 nights etc.

God brackets the time down to an exact 72 hour period - not some vague generality.
 
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You're the only one stressing Sunday morning for the resurrection. The scriptures you have used to show that only show that the women were coming to anoint Him on Sunday morning while still dark. He was long gone and the saints resurrected with Him were appearing in the city during the night.

Okay, so now you're abandoning Sunday (the first day of the week) as the resurrection day. Fine. This is what I try to get all Wednesdayers to admit. It's not easy.

So let's examine if Scripture testifies to Sunday being their third day.

Luke 24:13 Now that same day two of them were going to a village called Emmaus,.....15 As they talked and discussed these things with each other, Jesus himself came up and walked along with them; 16 but they were kept from recognizing him. 17 He asked them, “What are you discussing together as you walk along?” ...18 One of them, named Cleopas, asked him, “Are you the only one visiting Jerusalem who does not know the things that have happened there in these days?”..... The chief priests and our rulers handed him over to be sentenced to death, and they crucified him; 21 but we had hoped that he was the one who was going to redeem Israel. And what is more, it is the third day since all this took place.​

Got it so far? The same day (the first day of the week), they claimed it was the third day since the handing over of Jesus. Then Cleaopas says,

22 In addition, some of our women amazed us. They went to the tomb early this morning 23 but didn’t find his body. They came and told us that they had seen a vision of angels, who said he was alive.​

Now let's add Mark to the mix.

Mark 16:9 Now when He rose early on the first day of the week, He appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom He had cast seven demons.​

Rose when? The first day of the week. Sunday morning. Does Mark say only the tomb was merely discovered Sunday? No, he sure doesn't. He says Jesus rose on Sunday.

It is undeniable.
 
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Okay, so now you're abandoning Sunday (the first day of the week) as the resurrection day. Fine. This is what I try to get all Wednesdayers to admit. It's not easy.
It's not difficult at all. In fact all Wed. crucifixion advocates say that the resurrection was at the beginning of Sunday.

You seem to pretty much see only what you want to see don't you?
Rose when? The first day of the week. Sunday morning. Does Mark say only the tomb was merely discovered Sunday? No, he sure doesn't. He says Jesus rose on Sunday.
It is undeniable.
As they say at Geico. Everyone knows that. Jesus was resurrected at the beginning of Sunday which is sundown of Saturday.

You've accused others of not being aware that the Jewish days began at sundown. You seem to be the one who does not take this into account.

In fairness to talking about Sunday - we need to realize that it is a non-Jewish concept. In fact our Sunday starts are midnight which is drastically different than the Jewish concept.

I've gone through every possible way of looking at these things and considered every thing the scriptures say as well as possible idioms and the different ways of starting and ending days. I have also been through the pertinent Exodus and Leviticus passages backward and forward. I did it many decades ago.

You need to do the same. If you won't, because you are wed to a particular tradition, that's up to you. I won't hold my breath for you to explore othe ways of thinking about this though.:)

Perhaps someone here will have read my general posts and will see another angle on these things that they have never considered before.

I doubt that it will be you of course. So have a nice Easter - regardless of the silly unbiblical name and the false traditions the church has saddled it with. :)
 
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No need for you to reply either unless you want to.

Twilight isn't a three hour period as you say. It's an intermediate time right at the very changeover of day to night or night to day.

"Afterwards Joseph of Arimathea, who had been a secret disciple of Jesus for fear of the Jewish leaders, boldly asked Pilate for permission to take Jesus' body down; and Pilate told him to go ahead. So he came and took it away. Nicodemus, the man who had come to Jesus at night, came too, bringing a hundred pounds of embalming ointment made from myrrh and aloes. Together they wrapped Jesus' body in a long linen cloth saturated with the spices, as is the Jewish custom of burial. The place of crucifixion was near a grove of trees, where there was a new tomb, never used before. And so, because of the need for haste before the Sabbath, and because the tomb was close at hand, they laid him there" John.19:38‑42

They did not entomb Him right at 3 P.M. or lay Him down in the tomb over a 3 hour period. They took Him down sometime after His death which occurred shortly after 3 P.M. They entombed Him sometime after going to ask for the body, taking the body down, and preparing spices. They went through an anointing process of sorts, and lay the body in the tomb after these acts were all completed - just in the nick of time as it turned out. There was no coincidence with God.

If the time of the placing in the tomb was as I suggest - we have the following.

DDDDD*NNNNN (1st night) DDDDD (1st day) NNNNN (2nd night) DDDDD (2nd day) NNNNN (3rd night) DDDDD (3rd day)*(ressurection)NNNNN*(ascension)

3 days and 3 nights exactly.

"But He answered and said to them, “An evil and adulterous generation craves for a sign; and yet no sign will be given to it but the sign of Jonah the prophet; for just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the sea monster, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." Matthew 12:30-40

What had been crystal clear in the Hebrew language scriptures for some 800 years was equally clear to those hearing in Aramaic or who have read it later in Greek.
I said I was not going to reply again but as I said before I love you and I do. The Jewish time the day starts at sundown. The dark is the first of the day the same as creation dark was before light. The time you are talking about is after sundown which is the next day. They placed Jesus in the tomb before sundown on Passover day, whatever day you may say it is. The reason they had to put him in the tomb before sundown was the next day was the a Sabbath. It was the first day of Unleavened Bread what ever day you say that was. So if you say it was between day and night that is the next day. Between the evening is from noon to sunset not from sunset till dark.

What ever day you believe the crucifixion was, by scripture Jesus died around 3PM and they put him in the tomb before sunset, the sun was still up. That time would have been between 3PM and 6PM before sunset, the sun was still up. If it was Wednesday as you say, it would have to be before sunset or as you say in the nick of time, that is still in the daytime. 72 hours from that would be in the daytime. Scriptures clearly say he was resurrected before sunrise not in the daytime, if it was 5:59 the sun is still up. If Jesus is the First fruits of those that slept and If He fulfilled the Feast of Firstfruits He ascended on the first day after the Sabbath inside the Feast of the Unleavened Bread, not right before the sun went down on Saturday.

What you say about appearing to many which comes from Matthew 27: 50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

All these happen at the same time, not when he resurrected. Did the veil of the temple rent I twain when he cried out or after he resurrected? check out the word resurrection used here it may surprise you. No other scripture tells of the saints who slept went into the holy city and appeared to many, it does not say Christ appeared to many. So what do we do, speculate the meaning. Can you find scripture that explains this or do you take mans interpretation of what it means.

Jesus told Peter, James, John and Andrew on the Mount of Olives Take heed that no man deceive you when they ask Him about the destruction of the temple and his coming and the end of the age. Paul said we are fed milk before meat. Have you ever thought you understood something and later your eyes were opened to another meaning? If not it will. The passion your post display is good but make sure it is from the Spirit and not from man. Can you find scripture that says the saints have been resurrected or is that from man? The spirits in prison are they people or angels? was it when Jesus was in the heart of the earth or after he resurrected? "Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men". Does this mean people resurrected when he did, do you know, for sure is there doubt or do you except mans interpretation. Do you place your eternal soul in the hands of man.
Our mind works 90% of the time in our subconscious from things we have been taught learned by seeing or doing. we have preconceived paintings in our mind that block anything that does not match that painting it is called a scotoma, a blind spot. We must pray before we study and clear our minds, you have read he who have hears let him hear.

To have such a dogma on a subject, belittling others is not supporting the body of Christ. we should be building up and not tearing down. I know nothing and am dumb as a rock and hope for help from other members of the body to hold me up. I have understanding that may not be correct, it may be milk, but a brother or sister may lead me to meat and through prayer and the Holy Spirit and humility I will be he who has hears let him hear. in light and love Rodron
 
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And herein lies the dilemma for all Wednesday advocates. No matter how you slice it, Sunday cannot be the third day. Yet Scripture is adamant Jesus rose Sunday (the 1st day of the week), the third day since the crucifixion. This is the teaching of the New Testament. This has been the belief of the Church from the beginning. It's important.

But in the Wednesday scheme, the 7th day of the week (Saturday) becomes the third day since the events of the crucifixion, even if the counting is delayed until Wednesday night (the beginning of Thursday). Good intentions, but the theory contradicts the New Testament.

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And herein lies the dilemma for all Wednesday advocates. No matter how you slice it, Sunday cannot be the third day. Yet Scripture is adamant Jesus rose Sunday (the 1st day of the week), the third day since the crucifixion. This is the teaching of the New Testament. This has been the belief of the Church from the beginning. It's important.

But in the Wednesday scheme, the 7th day of the week (Saturday) becomes the third day since the events of the crucifixion, even if the counting is delayed until Wednesday night (the beginning of Thursday). Good intention, but the theory contradicts the New Testament.

wednesday-problem-jewish.jpg
Love your graphics I wish I could do that.
The 10th of Nisan is when the lamb was taken up, If Jesus fulfilled the Passover He rode into Jerusalem on the 10th Nisan .

John 12:1-8 (KJV)
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Then Jesus six days before the passover came to Bethany, where Lazarus was, which had been dead, whom he raised from the dead.

John 12:12-16 (KJV)
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On the next day much people that were come to the feast, when they heard that Jesus was coming to Jerusalem,13 Took branches of palm trees, and went forth to meet him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord.14

This is 5 days before Passover, if this is Sunday, Palm Sunday, first day of the week, Passover is on Thursday not Friday or Wednesday. If you read all the gospels it will support the 5 days until Passover the day Jesus was crucified. Jesus resurrected on the Feast of Firstfruits which is the first day of the week. So you can work backwards to paint your picture. in light and love Rodron

 
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The selection of the Passover lamb by Israel on the sabbath of the 10th of Nisan or Abib, the fellowship of the lamb for the next few days in the households of God's people, the killing of the Passover lamb at the evening of the 14th, the Passover on the 15th, the 3 days and 3 nights on the Egyptian side of the Red Sea, the crossing of the Red Sea during the hours of darkness, the ascension from the Sea at dawn and the open show of Pharaoh after sunrise on the first day of the week are all fulfilled in minute detail during the Passion Week of Israel's Messiah, our Passover - from Saturday through Sunday.

It's obviously not critical to anyone's salvation that they understand the prophecy correctly.

Many people in the church have had it wrong for a great many centuries now. So you all can have it your way until the Lord shows us the video and sets us straight. :)

Obviously - tradition is a very hard thing to go up against. As one with a lifetime of passion for understanding and teaching the Word of God and one who has revisited this particular subject from scratch and with an open mind most Easters for some 60 years now - I just feel like it's a crying shame that the church can't seem to get this simple thing (the single most momentous event in the history of the universe) right. I suspect the Holy Spirit feels the same way.
 
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I do too. I believe Jesus was crucified Friday and Raised Sunday morning.



Friday is the only day that works if Sunday is the third day. If you believe a Wednesday crucifixion, then Sunday is the fifth day, especially since "all these things took place."



Impossible. Scripture says Jesus rose the first day of the week, which is the 3rd day since the crucifixion.

Mark 16:9 Now when He rose early on the first day of the week, He appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom He had cast seven demons.​

And the word "early" is a reference to morning. proi - in the morning, early, Mt. 16:3; 20:1; Mk. 15:1; Acts 28:23; the morning watch, which ushers in the dawn, Mk. 13:35 ˘ dawn; early; morning. (Mounce) Mark cannot be referring to the night before. The resurrection had to have occurred during the twilight of the morning on the first day of the week.

Sunday morning is your only possible resurrection time.
It’s not impossible for the Messiah to have risen from the dead on “Saturday”. Not saying he did, but it’s definitely possible.

The 1st day of the week, scripturally, falls on Saturday at sunset through Sunday st sunset, so it’s definitely possible for him to have risen on the first day of the week and it be on what we know as “Saturday”

Notice Paul preached on the first day of the week until midnight, and left in the morning.

Acts 20:7
And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

The disciples were gathered on “Saturday” night, Paul spoke until midnight, and left in the morning.
 
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And herein lies the dilemma for all Wednesday advocates. No matter how you slice it, Sunday cannot be the third day. Yet Scripture is adamant Jesus rose Sunday (the 1st day of the week), the third day since the crucifixion. This is the teaching of the New Testament. This has been the belief of the Church from the beginning. It's important.

But in the Wednesday scheme, the 7th day of the week (Saturday) becomes the third day since the events of the crucifixion, even if the counting is delayed until Wednesday night (the beginning of Thursday). Good intentions, but the theory contradicts the New Testament.

wednesday-problem-jewish.jpg

The biblical first day of the week begins at sunset on what is called “Saturday”. Christ could have resurrected at any point after sunset on what the world calls “Saturday” and it would have been the first day of the week.

The scriptures number the days of the week - first day, 2nd day etc

Sunday, Monday, Tuesday etc are pagan in name and concept and origin.
 
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I'd rather say that He's crucified on Thursday.

He's arrested after midnight of Wednesday (thus on Thursday) and handed Himself over to the darkness. He died in the afternoon of Thursday, and raised on the third day after His death, which is Sunday morning.

There are multiple Sabbaths during the Passover. Different Jewish groups may observe any of them. It's not necessary a Saturday.

So from Thursday morning till Friday morning, it's the first day and night He's inside the hand of darkness.
From Friday morning to Saturday morning, it's the second day and night.
From Saturday morning to Sunday morning, it's the third day and night.

On the first day after His death, it's a Friday.
On the second day after His death, it's a Saturday.
On the third day after His death, it's a Sunday on which He's raised.
 
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The biblical first day of the week begins at sunset on what is called “Saturday”. Christ could have resurrected at any point after sunset on what the world calls “Saturday” and it would have been the first day of the week.

The scriptures number the days of the week - first day, 2nd day etc

Sunday, Monday, Tuesday etc are pagan in name and concept and origin.

Did you not look at the chart? It's from the jewish perspective of days starting at sunset. Look at it. Show me a scenario where Sunday (the first day of the week) is the third day since the crucifixion. It's not possible.

wednesday-problem-jewish.jpg
 
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It’s not impossible for the Messiah to have risen from the dead on “Saturday”. Not saying he did, but it’s definitely possible....

Um, no. It's not possible. Read your Bible!

Mark 16:9 Now when He rose early on the first day of the week, He appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom He had cast seven demons.​
 
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