What is the Mark of the Beast?

UnprofitableServant said:

Your point that the seven churches couldn't grasp my interpretation is only valid if we assume that the early Christians were meant to grasp it. Many time prophecy are given but are not understood until it is fulfilled, or the warning signs that preclude the fulfillment of the prophecy is happening. To say that our interpretation of what Revelation says has to be done in the context of the first century christians contradicts your point about some of revelation is for the future generation. We can't pick and choose, rather we should interpret as the scriptures reveal; at the same time lining up our interpretation with Jesus and his testimony (which is the spirit of prophecy Revelation 19:10).

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"The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show to his servants the things that must soon take place." - Revelation 1:1

This opening shows that this revelation was to be shown to his servants, i.e. the seven churches of Asia Minor (v. 11), that were to take place soon in their time. It would take some gymnastics to fit this to two millennia later with this phrase. Historically, many things happened to the early church that are described in this book during the first-century. Arthur Pink notes that in Revelation 6 we see an apparent parallel of the seven seals with the words of Jesus found in Matthew 24. In Revelation 11:1-3 we are possibly seeing the rebellion that happened from the Jews in 66 AD, the response of Nero afterward, with destruction of the Second Temple that happened in 70 AD, when Vespasian's son, Titus, besieged and destroyed Jerusalem with it. There are many other things that can be compared to the accounts written of that time.

It has an application to all churches, but it in no doubt had original recipient who could grasp these symbols and prophetical statements.

UnprofitableServant said:

Your point that the seven churches couldn't grasp my interpretation is only valid if we assume that the early Christians were meant to grasp it.

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It's not an assumption, it is direct teaching.
For Example, Note that Jesus explicitly says that the Thyatria Prophetess movement chose not to repent, and that he was coming and would kill her and her "children." But to the rest at Thyatria (the faithful), they were to hold fast and had no additional burden placed upon them, for Jesus had rewards to give them as stated in Rev 2:26-28. We know that Christ came to them, for he came and killed the Prophetess and rewarded the faithful as he said. This is all first-century stuff here. No "Church Age," no "1948," no "21st century computer chips" -- the glorified Jesus knew of none of those modern speculative doctrines, and that makes them impossible doctrines, ones not found anywhere in scripture. Had any of those things been biblical doctrines, then Jesus would not be speaking to first-century churches about His coming in Revelation 2-3 as we see Him doing.

UnprofitableServant said:

I've recently been interested in the prophecy on the 'mark of the beast' because of an article I watched a video based on about the Kenyan government wanting to give the Kenyan people a RFID card that will be used as the 'single source of truth'. This card will contain everything from how many people live with them, where there land is located, financial, medical records. It seems very similar to the RFID chip that people in Sweden are using to 'buy and sell'.

What do people think? Is what's happening in Kenya proof that the RFID microchip implant is the mark of the beast? Or is it something else?

Here is a link to the video if people are interested in watching it:
bit.ly/MOTB666

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Revelation 13 and 14 are about the only places to find that topic.

(Beasts in Daniel and Rev are Empires/kingdoms/global entities -- see Daniel 7)

Rev 13
And he makes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose fatal wound was healed. 13 He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down out of heaven to the earth in the presence of men. 14 And he deceives those who dwell on the earth because of the signs which it was given him to perform in the presence of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who *had the wound of the sword and has come to life. 15 And it was given to him to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast would even speak and cause as many as do not worship the image of the beast to be killed. 16 And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, 17 and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six.

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So it is a 'sin' that they are promoting and then monitoring that adoption of the sin they are promoting by tracking it with a mark so if you do not have it - you cannot buy or sell.


Then comes Rev 14 warning - the last warning given to mankind before the end of the world.

Rev 14
9 Then another angel, a third one, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mixed in full strength in the cup of His anger; and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.” 12 Here is the perseverance of the saints who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus.

stuart allen said:

i repeat...i most earnestly urge all to refuse point-blank to receive it.

i believe i made my point of view sufficiently clear.

any/all are free to agree or disagree.

if you disagree, be entirely sure of your opinion.

if anyone has even the slightest doubt...why risk it??

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Revelation clearly states that the mark of the beast has to do with worship... "he who worships the beast and his image will receive the mark". A micro chip does not indicate nor require worship.

I think when the mark of the beast is introduced into the world it will be something extremely obvious and something that Christians cannot the upon themselves. It could very well be a microchip or something extremely obvious. I don't think that Christians will have a problem avoiding or obtaining the mark of the beast.

ewq1938 said:

What if the AC looks like and says he is Jesus and that he wants to put the seal of God in people's foreheads? How many would know not to accept it?

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I wonder who is manufacturing the Seal of God Chip?
Bill Gates Perhaps?

ewq1938 said:

What if the AC looks like and says he is Jesus and that he wants to put the seal of God in people's foreheads? How many would know not to accept it?

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Simple we know that when Jesus does return that he will return with the clouds of heaven and his return will be obvious. It doesn't matter if the AC looks exactly like Jesus because we know that Christ promised to come AFTER the events of the Anti Christ and beast not before or during.

STICK WITH THE BIBLE/JESUS. AND YOU CAN'T GO WRONG

Neostarwcc said:

Simple we know that when Jesus does return that he will return with the clouds of heaven and his return will be obvious. It doesn't matter if the AC looks exactly like Jesus because we know that Christ promised to come AFTER the events of the Anti Christ and beast not before or during.

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I agree his return will be obvious. In matt. 24 he talks about antichrists plural as far as I remember he never refers to just one alone. Paul does and then revelations talks of the beast. One thing interesting I noticed in revelations is that it appeared that the beast did not rise until after the coming of the lord. In the 14 chapter of revelation, the first verse tells of the lord and the 144,000 standing on Mount Zion with the seal in their foreheads. Then the three angels sound. The third angel that sounds warns the people on earth not to worship the beast or his image or receive the mark. The part I noticed is that the 144,000 doesn't recieve their seal in the forehead until after the sixth seal is broken and the coming of the lord.Rev. 6:12- 17- 7:1-4. So then the lord has already come and the angels are sent out to warn the people not to worship the beast and receive the mark.

I don't know for sure but the mark will "Probably" be A Hexagram.

UnprofitableServant said:

I've recently been interested in the prophecy on the 'mark of the beast' because of an article I watched a video based on about the Kenyan government wanting to give the Kenyan people a RFID card that will be used as the 'single source of truth'. This card will contain everything from how many people live with them, where there land is located, financial, medical records. It seems very similar to the RFID chip that people in Sweden are using to 'buy and sell'.

What do people think? Is what's happening in Kenya proof that the RFID microchip implant is the mark of the beast? Or is it something else?

Here is a link to the video if people are interested in watching it:
bit.ly/MOTB666

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The Mark of the Beast (Beast is symbolic for a kingdom like in Daniel 7), is the mark of the ecclesiastical authority for the last day kingdom that was foretold to come in many parts in the Holy Bible, in particularly Daniel 2 about the statue of a man with feet mix with iron and miry clay, Daniel 7 about the 4th beast with teeth of iron and a little horn coming up among the horns which plucked up 3 horns.

What is the mark of the beast: The Mark of the Beast | Bible Study Guides | Amazing Facts

UnprofitableServant said:

I've recently been interested in the prophecy on the 'mark of the beast' because of an article I watched a video based on about the Kenyan government wanting to give the Kenyan people a RFID card that will be used as the 'single source of truth'. This card will contain everything from how many people live with them, where there land is located, financial, medical records. It seems very similar to the RFID chip that people in Sweden are using to 'buy and sell'.

What do people think? Is what's happening in Kenya proof that the RFID microchip implant is the mark of the beast? Or is it something else?

Here is a link to the video if people are interested in watching it:
bit.ly/MOTB666

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Read Rev 13 and you will see that the sin is worship to the beast - and receiving his mark is just an outward sign of that worship.

You are conflating the technology of tracking someone or tracking transactions - with the sin of false worship - worshiping the beast - obeying the beast instead of God.

Let's say they change technology and use body scan, retinal scan, something injected into the blood stream... whatever biometric they can think of... the sin is not "the ability to track" something. The sin according to Rev 13 is false worship.