Crucifixion was Friday, 3 days and nights were literal

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Can someone please explain something to me? If Jesus died on Friday and rose from the grave 3 days later wouldn't he have risen on Monday? Saturday Sunday Monday. Unless you count Friday? But didn't Jesus die Friday night just before sundown? I'm confused.
 
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That Jesus was crucified Friday is undeniable. That Sunday is the third day is undeniable...............
Actually the Friday crucifixion is not only deniable it is untenable. The same is true for the Sunday morning resurrection.

Jesus was in the grave for exactly 72 hours - just as He said.

The basic mistakes made are not seeing that the "high day" sabbath was not the weekly sabbath -- and failing to see the prophetic fulfillment of the events in the exodus from Egypt.

Jesus was crucified on Wed. and placed in the grave at twilight. He was resurrected on Saturday at twilight just as He said He would be.

In one account the disciples rested on the Passover sabbath (Thursday) and then bought spices to anoint Him after the sabbath was done (Friday). In another account they bought spices and then rested on the sabbath. There are no errors in scripture and God has bracketed these event in in such a way that there can be no mistaking how they occurred.

The women went to the tomb on Sunday while it was still dark knowing that the guards would have been gone even if they had not run away on Saturday evening when the events of the resurrection took place.

Our true high priest's first fruits wave offering of the resurrection went into the city and appeared to many during the hours of darkness between the resurrection and the discovery of the empty tomb - while the Lord preached to the spirits in prison before emptying Paradise and taking them to the presence of God now that the work of Calvary made them completely acceptable to enter His presence.

It's a all very simple once you decide that the tradition of the church is not necessarily the truth.

Look at the events of the Exodus including dates such as the taking of the lamb into the households (on the day of the month which, as it turns out, was a weekly sabbath - fully fulfilled on "Palm Saturday"). Look at the 3 days on the Egyptian side of the Red Sea and the crossing during darkness. Look at Pharaoh's discovery of that crossing at dawn and God's open show of him and his forces at dawn (the type of which was fulfilled with the open show of Satan by the Lord).

Read Leviticus 23 as well as those pertinent chapters in the book of Exodus.

It's all rather simple to understand and quite inspiring when you see exactly how the Lord fulfilled this most important prophecy in scripture.

This lazy study and quite silly Friday crucifixion scenario - makes a mockery of something the Lord meant to be very clear for us and cause us to worship Him and rest in the assurance given to us by His sovereign control over the events of history.

Obviously this is just a quick overview of the most minute and magnificently fulfilled prophecy in scripture.

Get into the Word folks.

There are no errors in it (as would be the case in spades if the Lord was crucified on Friday).

Nowhere does the scripture say that the Lord was crucified on Friday. Nowhere does the scripture say that the Lord was resurrected on Sunday morning. But what it does say is quite marvelous and will cause you to rest in it's truth even more.

But the Lord has seen fit to want you to dig a bit for truth - building one doctrine on another. Do it - be careful how you listen. To him who has - even more will be given. But if you shrug off things like the supposed inconsistencies in the scripture and take the lazy way out - even what you think you have will be taken away.

Tackle the many supposed inconsistent renditions of these events found in the gospel accounts head on and lay them to rest. Don't just whistle through a graveyard with simplistic explanation about partial days and nights and such - hoping in vain that the critics of the scriptures will not notice and point them out to undermine the authority of the Word of God.
 
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That's my view.

With Easter approaching, this debate has been completely resolved, in my mind. The crucifixion was Friday and the 3 days and 3 nights in the heart of the earth were literal. The problem is solved when you correctly define the phrase "heart of the earth."

While everyone's arguing about whether the days and nights are literal, nobody's trying to understand this phrase. I don't believe it's a reference to the tomb. It's rather a reference to Christ submitting to earthly authorities for judgment.

This article describes the view in depth: What did Jesus mean by 3 days and 3 nights in the heart of the earth?

Think about it. Jesus compared the "heart of the earth" to Jonah in the "belly of the whale" where he remained captive, but not dead. The phrase "heart of the earth, is not found anywhere else in the Bible. There's nothing in it to suggest it's a reference to the grave.

But if the phase refers to Christ's captivity to earthly authorities, the timeline works out perfectly. Taken captive Thursday night, raised Sunday morning. Exactly 3 nights and 3 days.

Also, the Apostles always reference the incarceration of Jesus in the Crucifixion Resurrection timeline.

Luke 24:20 The chief priests and our rulers handed him over to be sentenced to death, and they crucified him; 21 but we had hoped that he was the one who was going to redeem Israel. And what is more, it is the third day since all this took place.​

Let me know your thoughts and arguments.
There are different types of "Sabbath's" This is the confusing part of the 3 days and 3 nights with Jesus' followers not being able to buy on the Sabbath and or that Jesus must be buried before the Sabbath.

Saturday Was a Sabbath, every week. There were 7 "high Sabbaths" or "high Days".

This one was Thursday.
Jesus was crucified on Wednesday, buried on that day. Well, this article explains it all.

Now you don't have to worry about trying to fit 3 days and 3 nights into two days.

Jesus Wasn't Crucified on Friday or Resurrected on Sunday: How long was Jesus in the tomb?
 
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Perhaps we should try to avoid attempting to force the Scriptures to match our church customs. If we just simply remove Easter Sunday from the equation and follow the Biblical timeline, we can figure it out. Not from what our leaders tell us, but what the Bible tells us. Starting with those women that had to wait until the Sabbath was completed before they could annoint Christ's body. They found Him already risen at the close of Sabbath (sundown). So the first question we must answer is, 'was this the weekly Sabbath (Friday evening to Saturday evening), or was this the special Sabbath related to the Passover?

Well I think we should first ask, is the Bible clear about Jesus rising on Sunday morning, and dying Friday afternoon. Since it's clear on both of those facts (Luke 24), I'm not sure, for this subject, we need to get sidetracked on speculations of a special Sabbath. That's merely a way to reconcile a bad interpretation of Jesus proclamation of the sign of Jonah.

Rather than mess with very clear passages on the third day resurrection and the Friday crucifixion, let's instead examine this phrase "heart of the earth" that confusing so many people and causing them to doubt the clear Friday crucifixion.
 
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Actually the Friday crucifixion is not only deniable it is untenable. The same is true for the Sunday morning resurrection.....

And here we go. This is easily refuted by John and Mark's testimonies.

John 20:1 Early on the first day of the week, while it was still dark, Mary Magdalene went to the tomb and saw that the stone had been removed from the entrance.​

First day of the week is Sunday and we need only to examine the term early (proi in the Greek). It literally means in the morning, early (Mounce Greek Dictionary).

Clearly John was speaking of the darkness in the twilight of the morning, before sunrise. It would make no sense for him to use this term, had Mary Magdalene visited the tomb at night, before twilight.

Then look at Mark’s parallel passage.

Mark 16:9 Now when He rose early on the first day of the week, He appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom He had cast seven demons.​

No escape from Sunday morning my friend. Your entire premise is refuted by Mark and John.
 
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There are different types of "Sabbath's" This is the confusing part of the 3 days and 3 nights with Jesus' followers not being able to buy on the Sabbath and or that Jesus must be buried before the Sabbath.

Saturday Was a Sabbath, every week. There were 7 "high Sabbaths" or "high Days".

This one was Thursday.
Jesus was crucified on Wednesday, buried on that day. Well, this article explains it all.

Now you don't have to worry about trying to fit 3 days and 3 nights into two days.

Jesus Wasn't Crucified on Friday or Resurrected on Sunday: How long was Jesus in the tomb?

Yes, this is the Wednesday theory which denies that Sunday was the third day. Yet scripture clearly states that Sunday is the third day, in numerous places. The Wednesday theory has Sunday as the fifth day and at best of the forth day if we start the counting late.

But that's the problem with the Wednesday theory. Sunday, in this theory, cannot be the third day from either the jewish or common perspective of days.

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Yet Scripture tells us clearly that Sunday (the first day of the week) is the third day from the events of the crucifixion (Luke 24). It's undeniable.
 
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Can someone please explain something to me? If Jesus died on Friday and rose from the grave 3 days later wouldn't he have risen on Monday? Saturday Sunday Monday. Unless you count Friday? But didn't Jesus die Friday night just before sundown? I'm confused.

If you're talking "days" then it's easy. Sunday, according to numerous passages, is the third day. Therefore, Saturday is the second day, and Friday the first.

That works fine. The issues is the 3 days and 3 nights Jesus spoke of. He said he'd be in the heart of the earth, 3 days and 3 nights. The question there is, what does this phrase, "heart of the earth" mean? If you think it means the grave, then yes, problem. I don't think it means the grave. I think Jesus was referring to his incarceration and crucifixion. I think heart of the earth refers to all of the events of the Passion, from his incarceration Thursday night to his resurrection Sunday morning, which is exactly 3 days and 3 nights. The phrase heart of the earth actually means ruling authorities of the earth. There is some precedence for this in the OT in reference to the heart of Egypt referring to rulers of Egypt.

The view is outlined here:
What did Jesus mean by 3 days and 3 nights in the heart of the earth?
 
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If you're talking "days" then it's easy. Sunday, according to numerous passages, is the third day. Therefore, Saturday is the second day, and Friday the first.

That works fine. The issues is the 3 days and 3 nights Jesus spoke of. He said he'd be in the heart of the earth, 3 days and 3 nights. The question there is, what does this phrase, "heart of the earth" mean? If you think it means the grave, then yes, problem. I don't think it means the grave. I think Jesus was referring to his incarceration and crucifixion. I think heart of the earth refers to all of the events of the Passion, from his incarceration Thursday night to his resurrection Sunday morning, which is exactly 3 days and 3 nights. The phrase heart of the earth actually means ruling authorities of the earth. There is some precedence for this in the OT in reference to the heart of Egypt referring to rulers of Egypt.

The view is outlined here:
What did Jesus mean by 3 days and 3 nights in the heart of the earth?

Were days just counted differently back then? Because if we count three days from Friday we get Monday. Saturday, Sunday, Monday.
 
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And here we go. This is easily refuted by John and Mark's testimonies.
Actually it's not refuted by John and Mark - unless you read it with Friday colored glasses on.
John 20:1 Early on the first day of the week, while it was still dark, Mary Magdalene went to the tomb and saw that the stone had been removed from the entrance.
First day of the week is Sunday and we need only to examine the term early (proi in the Greek). It literally means in the morning, early (Mounce Greek Dictionary).
Clearly John was speaking of the darkness in the twilight of the morning, before sunrise. It would make no sense for him to use this term, had Mary Magdalene visited the tomb at night, before twilight.
One hardly knows where to begin. I'm not sure why you dig in when you are so obviously mistaken.

Note that they went to the tomb Sunday morning during the dark hours after the resurrection on Saturday evening had taken place. They went there a few hours after the beginning the 18th of Nissan or Abib. It is just as you say. But the stone had already been rolled away and the guards had long since run away.

"Now while they were on their way, some of the guard came into the city and reported to the chief priests all that had happened. And when they had assembled with the elders and consulted together, they gave a large sum of money to the soldiers, and said, “You are to say, ‘His disciples came by night and stole Him away while we were asleep.’" Matthew 28:11-13

By dawn Sunday - during the early morning hours of darkness - the guards were already reporting to the chief priests what "had previously" happened.

Then look at Mark’s parallel passage.
Mark 16:9 Now when He rose early on the first day of the week, He appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom He had cast seven demons.​
No escape from Sunday morning my friend.
The first day of the week begins at twilight of Saturday just as Saturday ends at twilight.

Just as He was laid in the grave at dusk - He was resurrected at dusk. Call the resurrection the end of Saturday or call it the beginning of Sunday - as you wish. Just don't call it 6 hours or so into Sunday.
Your entire premise is refuted by Mark and John.
Not at all. My entire premise is corroborated by Mark and John and all of the scripture both old and new testament which speak of the prophecies about "Passion Week" - including the triumphal entry and the resurrection of the Messiah.

Don't dig in so - my friend.:)

There's no shame in having it wrong for a while - so long as you are spiritual enough to stand correction when it comes your way from wise council.

Don't let pride rule you. There's no one reading along here of any long term consequence for you other than the Lord Himself.

Learn and grow. Show yourself approved - a workman who doesn't need to be ashamed, "rightly dividing the Word of Truth".
 
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Actually the Friday crucifixion is not only deniable it is untenable. The same is true for the Sunday morning resurrection.

Jesus was in the grave for exactly 72 hours - just as He said.

The basic mistakes made are not seeing that the "high day" sabbath was not the weekly sabbath -- and failing to see the prophetic fulfillment of the events in the exodus from Egypt.

Jesus was crucified on Wed. and placed in the grave at twilight. He was resurrected on Saturday at twilight just as He said He would be.

In one account the disciples rested on the Passover sabbath (Thursday) and then bought spices to anoint Him after the sabbath was done (Friday). In another account they bought spices and then rested on the sabbath. There are no errors in scripture and God has bracketed these event in in such a way that there can be no mistaking how they occurred.

The women went to the tomb on Sunday while it was still dark knowing that the guards would have been gone even if they had not run away on Saturday evening when the events of the resurrection took place.

Our true high priest's first fruits wave offering of the resurrection went into the city and appeared to many during the hours of darkness between the resurrection and the discovery of the empty tomb - while the Lord preached to the spirits in prison before emptying Paradise and taking them to the presence of God now that the work of Calvary made them completely acceptable to enter His presence.

It's a all very simple once you decide that the tradition of the church is not necessarily the truth.

Look at the events of the Exodus including dates such as the taking of the lamb into the households (on the day of the month which, as it turns out, was a weekly sabbath - fully fulfilled on "Palm Saturday"). Look at the 3 days on the Egyptian side of the Red Sea and the crossing during darkness. Look at Pharaoh's discovery of that crossing at dawn and God's open show of him and his forces at dawn (the type of which was fulfilled with the open show of Satan by the Lord).

Read Leviticus 23 as well as those pertinent chapters in the book of Exodus.

It's all rather simple to understand and quite inspiring when you see exactly how the Lord fulfilled this most important prophecy in scripture.

This lazy study and quite silly Friday crucifixion scenario - makes a mockery of something the Lord meant to be very clear for us and cause us to worship Him and rest in the assurance given to us by His sovereign control over the events of history.

Obviously this is just a quick overview of the most minute and magnificently fulfilled prophecy in scripture.

Get into the Word folks.

There are no errors in it (as would be the case in spades if the Lord was crucified on Friday).

Nowhere does the scripture say that the Lord was crucified on Friday. Nowhere does the scripture say that the Lord was resurrected on Sunday morning. But what it does say is quite marvelous and will cause you to rest in it's truth even more.

But the Lord has seen fit to want you to dig a bit for truth - building one doctrine on another. Do it - be careful how you listen. To him who has - even more will be given. But if you shrug off things like the supposed inconsistencies in the scripture and take the lazy way out - even what you think you have will be taken away.

Tackle the many supposed inconsistent renditions of these events found in the gospel accounts head on and lay them to rest. Don't just whistle through a graveyard with simplistic explanation about partial days and nights and such - hoping in vain that the critics of the scriptures will not notice and point them out to undermine the authority of the Word of God.
Do not want to debate all of what you said. Jesus has fulfilled four of the Feasts of God. Passover, Feast of unleavened bread, Feast of Firstfruits, and with the Holy Spirit the Feast of Weeks or Pentecost which is the First Fruits of the Spirit, the exact days they were originally done. Pentecost means 50 which is counted 7 Sabbaths from the waving of the sheaf (Firstfruits) until the day after the 7th sabbath. The only way to get to 50 is from the first day of the week. The Holy Convocation sabbath is not count from it is the weekly Sabbath during the Unleavened Bread Feast. The 50days always start on the first day of the week. So the waving of the sheaf of Firstfruits was on first day of the week.

Leviticus 23:15-16 (KJV)

15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:
16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the Lord.


In light and love Rodron
 
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...Note that they went to the tomb Sunday morning during the dark hours after the resurrection on Saturday evening had taken place. They went there a few hours after the beginning the 18th of Nissan or Abib. It is just as you say. But the stone had already been rolled away and the guards had long since run away.

Yes, this is the typical argument by Wednesdayers, which is easily refuted by the actual text. Both Mark and john refute this argument.

The error comes from the misnomer that morning starts at sunrise when all darkness is gone. This is wrong in both ancient jewish culture as well as modern culture. Dawn (twilight) starts when darkness first begins to transition to light, before sunrise—morning! This is the little twist that Wednesdayers never talk about. The evening twilight starts at sundown, but the morning twilight starts before sunrise.

Thus it would be very natural for Mary Magdalene mention the lingering darkness during the twilight of Sunday morning, just prior to sunrise.

Also you completely ignored the term "early" in both John and Mark's accounts. The Greek word clearly refers to morning.

Not only that you ignored Mark's clear testimony that Jesus actually rose on Sunday morning.

Mark 16:9 Now when He rose early on the first day of the week, He appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom He had cast seven demons.​

When he rose early..... When he rose early...... When he rose early...... (haunting words for Sunday morning deniers)

I'm not sure why you dig in when you are so obviously mistaken. Don't let pride rule you. :wave:
 
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Were days just counted differently back then? Because if we count three days from Friday we get Monday. Saturday, Sunday, Monday.

Yes, if you count days and nights from Christ's burial Friday Night (72 hours later) you get to Monday. It was that same then as today. But if you say that Sunday is the third day since all the events of the crucifixion, we (and the early Church) would conclude Friday was the first day, and Saturday the second day.

Look at the words of Cleapas closely. Notice he is not speaking of only Christ's burial.

Luke 24:20 The chief priests and our rulers handed him over to be sentenced to death, and they crucified him; 21 but we had hoped that he was the one who was going to redeem Israel. And what is more, it is the third day since all this took place. 22 In addition, some of our women amazed us. They went to the tomb early this morning 23 but didn’t find his body…​

They were speaking to Jesus on the road to Emmaus on Sunday, sometime during the day. They said that day was the third day, not only since Jesus' death and burial, but since the handing over of Jesus to the ruling authorities. The crucifixion is included in this statement, as is the handing over of Jesus. Sunday was the third day since all of those things. "it is the third day since all this took place."

This is the mistake of the Wednesdayers. They look at the burial only, but in every mention of the resurrection timeline, the crucifixion and incarceration are also mentioned. Take a look at the verses below.
  • “suffer many things at the hands of the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law,crucified, resurrected third day (Matt. 16:21)
  • “delivered into the hands of men,” crucified, resurrected third day (Matt. 17:22)
  • “delivered over to the chief priests and the teachers of the law,” crucified, resurrected third day (Matt. 20:18-19, Mark 10:33-34)
  • “suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law,” crucified, resurrected third day (Luke 9:21-22)
  • “delivered over to the Gentiles,” crucified, resurrected third day (Luke 18:32-33)
  • “delivered over to the hands of sinners,” crucified, resurrected third day (Luke 24:7).
The timeline clearly includes the incarceration and crucifixion of Jesus. It is not limited to the burial of Jesus.
 
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Were days just counted differently back then? Because if we count three days from Friday we get Monday. Saturday, Sunday, Monday.
Jews counted inclusively. They did not have the concept of zero, so Friday is the 1st day, Sabbath is the 2nd, and Sunday (Lord's day) is the third.
 
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Jews counted inclusively. They did not have the concept of zero, so Friday is the 1st day, Sabbath is the 2nd, and Sunday (Lord's day) is the third.

Not just Jews, everyone. We today, typically, will count part of a day as a day, when counting backward. It's very natural. There's no need to appeal to some mysterious Jewish idiom. It's normal logical thinking.

So technically, Jesus was in the tomb 3 days (2 partial days and a full day) and 2 nights. And he was in the heart of the earth (not merely the tomb) 3 days and 3 nights, from his incarceration to his resurrection.
 
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Do not want to debate all of what you said. Jesus has fulfilled four of the Feasts of God. Passover, Feast of unleavened bread, Feast of Firstfruits, and with the Holy Spirit the Feast of Weeks or Pentecost which is the First Fruits of the Spirit, the exact days they were originally done. Pentecost means 50 which is counted 7 Sabbaths from the waving of the sheaf (Firstfruits) until the day after the 7th sabbath. The only way to get to 50 is from the first day of the week. The Holy Convocation sabbath is not count from it is the weekly Sabbath during the Unleavened Bread Feast. The 50days always start on the first day of the week. So the waving of the sheaf of Firstfruits was on first day of the week.
Leviticus 23:15-16 (KJV)
15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:
16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the Lord.
This is keeping with what I have said. I have not said that the first fruits wave offering was done by our high priest on Saturday. It seems that you read it that way. Perhaps I was not as clear as I should have been.

The waving of the first fruits was on the first day of the week when Jesus ascended to the Father with the saints who were resurrected with Him at the beginning of that day (the closing of Saturday - same thing) and who appeared to many during the night before that ascension.
In light and love Rodron
Right back atcha brother.:)
 
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The error comes from the misnomer that morning starts at sunrise when all darkness is gone. This is wrong in both ancient jewish culture as well as modern culture. Dawn (twilight) starts when darkness first begins to transition to light, before sunrise—morning!
As they say at Geico - "everyone knows that".
This is the little twist that Wednesdayers never talk about.
I have no idea what anyone else talks about. But I talk about it all the time. So does virtually every commentator who takes this subject on - no matter where he lands on the Friday/Sunday issue.

Yours is not the new revelation you seem to think it is. It's very basic Genesis - "the evening and the morning were the first day" stuff.
Also you completely ignored the term "early" in both John and Mark's accounts. The Greek word clearly refers to morning.
Not at all. Early on the first day of the week would be while it was still dark - just as the scriptures and I have said.
When he rose early..... When he rose early...... When he rose early...... (haunting words for Sunday morning deniers)
Haunting words? What on earth are you talking about?
I'm not sure why you dig in when you are so obviously mistaken. Don't let pride rule you. :wave:
Upon reading your OP - I thought that you were someone seeking truth. I was apparently wrong. You're just another Christian Forums wise acre looking to argue.

Go ahead on. I just thought that I could add some perspective to the discussion for those who wished to pursue these concepts further.
 
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....Upon reading your OP - I thought that you were someone seeking truth. I was apparently wrong. You're just another Christian Forums wise acre looking to argue.

Wow, you really took this personally. Your view got challenged (happens to us all) and instead of humbling yourself you insult, take your ball and run home. That's a character issue.

But suit yourself.
 
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This is keeping with what I have said. I have not said that the first fruits wave offering was done by our high priest on Saturday. It seems that you read it that way. Perhaps I was not as clear as I should have been.

The waving of the first fruits was on the first day of the week when Jesus ascended to the Father with the saints who were resurrected with Him at the beginning of that day (the closing of Saturday - same thing) and who appeared to many during the night before that ascension.
Right back atcha brother.:)
Love you man, and that's not a jest. I want reply anymore. Just do this, you say from Wed twilight to Sat at twilight. 72 hrs. would be from 3-6 pm Wed- Sat 3-6 pm this would put the resurrection in the daytime before sunset that starts Sunday. You don't have to reply in love Rodron
 
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The Greek word translated "preparation" is παρασκευή/paraskeue. It does mean preparation but it was and is to this day the name of the day known to us as "Friday."
.....The first and last day of the feast of unleavened bread [ULB] are called "a holy convocation" but they are never called a Sabbath. The holy convocation of ULB differs from a Sabbath in that the preparation and cooking of food is specifically permitted. ....

First day of unleavened bread is a Shabbat day, because no work should be done then.

In the first day there shall be to you a holy convocation, and in the seventh day a holy convocation; no manner of work shall be done in them, except that which every man must eat, that only may be done by you.
Exodus 12:16

In the first day you shall have a holy convocation. You shall do no regular work.
Lev. 23:7
 
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Impossible. Scripture says Jesus rose the first day of the week, which is the 3rd day since the crucifixion.

Mark 16:9 Now when He rose early on the first day of the week, He appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom He had cast seven demons....​

Thank you for the scripture. :)
 
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