What if semi-auto firearms were outlawed?

The gun ban initiative petition was started by two liberal Christian ministers and a liberal rabbi. Backed by money from Bloomberg of course.

Yeah lets ban guns because all criminals that habitually break laws will lawfully turn their guns in.

I find liberal logic hilarious in keeping honest people honest. Banning guns do nothing.

marineimaging said:

But, for a non-violent crime and if a person has done their time, be it a felony conviction and prison time they need to get their rights back and it needs to be at the hands of Conservative, Christian Gun Owners pushing the Republican party to make it happen.

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Our former governor (a Hillary stooge) was glad to restore voting rights to 300,000 ex-felons, and I'm sure he restored their gun rights too... NOT!

Invalidusername said:

Yeah lets ban guns because all criminals that habitually break laws will lawfully turn their guns in.

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Ever heard of the Haynes Amendment? A convicted criminal cannot be required to turn in guns or register them because for them to do so would violate the 5th amendment. They would be admitting they were illegally in possession of guns, which would violate their right to not self incriminate. Another fine court decision.

Do what we did over here in Britain....nothing at all. Mind you, its the same thing that America did when the DHS decided you'd have to be photographed through your clothes in order to climb on an aeroplane....

marineimaging said:

Looking at my array of SA's one day I pondered this question. What would I do if there was a sudden turn of events and we awoke one day to discover that all semi-auto's were outlawed. There might be something a civil skirmish but I really doubt a true war would ensue. And that would leave me wondering what to do. Well I did something over the years. I countered each semi-auto with a Revolver or manual action rifle or shotgun so that I could continue to be public with my firearms without causing a stink. My first were .22's in LR and Magnum, a .357 magnum means a 38+P and Special too. A couple of .308's, a .30-30BoltA, several .22 rifles, and a break action .223 CVA Hunter. Shotgunwise a 12P, a 16SBA, 20P and a 20BoltA, a 410BoldA and a 410BkA so given that my semi-autos would no longer be allowed on the streets I still have plenty of manual choices to cover just about any event from hunting to home invasion to an all out war against an invading army. What about you? If it did happen could you come to the party with the Lord's Word in one hand and a proper defense firearm in the other?

Amendment: I wrote this question last night then woke up this morning to the news that Deefield, IL passed an ordinance which goes into effect June 13 and makes it unlawful to possess, sell, transport or store assault rifles. The weapons are defined as semi-automatic rifles able to accept a large magazine. The ordinance also bans certain models, including the AR-15, the AK-47 and Uzis.

Deerfield residents with assault weapons may sell them, hand them over to police or move them out of the village within 60 days of the ordinance going into effect. There are exceptions for law enforcement officers and members of the military.

Violating the ordinance could result in a fine of at least $250 and up to $1,000 for each day the violation occurs and was written in spite of standing law in Illinois that no municipality in the state is allowed to make any such laws. They did it anyway and this is the kind of Tyranny we were warned would happen.

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I expect this to happen at some point, right now military style semi automatic weapons seem to be the focus. However, if the democrats retake the Senate, and Presidency in 2020, I think it will happen pretty quick.

A total semiautomatic ban would probably follow in a few years, depending on politics, and other factors.

A total handgun ban will be next, once they realize handguns are used 90% of the time in shootings.

I honestly think pumps, levers, bolts, single shot/double barrel firearms are pretty safe for now.

What would I do if we were told to turn in all our firearms? I would take all of my beautiful Benelli Shotguns (5) and my Ruger Revolvers (2) and turn them in. We as Christians, have to be subject to the civil government, and endure suffering, unless we are asked to do something in violation of God's Laws. If that happens then we must face persecution for the sake of the faith.

Silverback said:

A total handgun ban will be next, once they realize handguns are used 90% of the time in shootings.

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They already know that; they're just waiting for a chance.

The "ban handguns" movement was big from 1968 until the early 1990s when concealed carry became popular and broadly legalized.

I've fought against these fools for over 50 years. They may be dormant, but they're alive.

My state, Washington, passed a law last year that designated all semi-automatic rifles as "assault rifles" and attached increased fees and raised the age to 21 to buy them.

Absolutely idiotic law. The last I checked, over 50% of the sheriffs in the state have declared that they will not enforce the new law.

Just to really illustrate how stupid, nonsensical, and completely bereft of critical thinking this law is, consider that a young man joins the US Marine Corps at age 18, goes to boot camp, then to a specialized sniper school, goes to Afghanistan and does a tour. He experiences the horrors of war, gets decorated, and comes home on leave and wants to buy a .22 rifle to hunt rabbits with.

He can't. He's only 20yrs old, and the liberals have somehow reasoned that he is too young to own such a weapon.

Another example...

Under Washington law, this is an assault rifle and I need to have my HIPPA rights waived and my medical records reviewed by the local sheriff to make sure I am mentally fit to buy one...


That is, BTW, an identical rifle to the one I inherited from my grandfather. It's a Remington Speedmaster .22 Short, purchased in 1939, and used to hunt small game and dispatch animals caught in traps.

This gun, is one I ordered two weeks ago online and had it shipped to my FFL. It is considered a pistol and is considered by the liberals to be less scary and dangerous than my grandfather's old .22 rifle...



I bought the above firearm because the new gun laws angered me and it was my response to the leftist attempt to suppress my natural right to self-defense.

I currently have a 12ga shotgun for a home-defense weapon. I will now have the new pistol shown above to fill that role.

The latest is now they are trying to pass a law limiting magazine capacity. I immediately ordered a bunch of high capacity magazines in response. Had the leftists in Seattle minded their own business, I would not have purchased that firearm, nor all of the extra magazines.

I am doing my part to ensure that the more laws they try to pass, the more guns and high capacity magazines are brought into the state.

I will stand with my sheriffs and refuse to live under tyranny or obey immoral laws.

I don't live in the US, so I have never handled a gun. The only ones I have ever seen in the UK have been with police or the military. I have had bodyguards armed with assault rifles (or maybe carbines - not sure I could tell the difference) when abroad for work, but never had to pick one up myself.

marineimaging said:

Looking at my array of SA's one day I pondered this question. What would I do if there was a sudden turn of events and we awoke one day to discover that all semi-auto's were outlawed. There might be something a civil skirmish but I really doubt a true war would ensue. And that would leave me wondering what to do. Well I did something over the years. I countered each semi-auto with a Revolver or manual action rifle or shotgun so that I could continue to be public with my firearms without causing a stink. My first were .22's in LR and Magnum, a .357 magnum means a 38+P and Special too. A couple of .308's, a .30-30BoltA, several .22 rifles, and a break action .223 CVA Hunter. Shotgunwise a 12P, a 16SBA, 20P and a 20BoltA, a 410BoldA and a 410BkA so given that my semi-autos would no longer be allowed on the streets I still have plenty of manual choices to cover just about any event from hunting to home invasion to an all out war against an invading army. What about you? If it did happen could you come to the party with the Lord's Word in one hand and a proper defense firearm in the other?

Amendment: I wrote this question last night then woke up this morning to the news that Deefield, IL passed an ordinance which goes into effect June 13 and makes it unlawful to possess, sell, transport or store assault rifles. The weapons are defined as semi-automatic rifles able to accept a large magazine. The ordinance also bans certain models, including the AR-15, the AK-47 and Uzis.

Deerfield residents with assault weapons may sell them, hand them over to police or move them out of the village within 60 days of the ordinance going into effect. There are exceptions for law enforcement officers and members of the military.

Violating the ordinance could result in a fine of at least $250 and up to $1,000 for each day the violation occurs and was written in spite of standing law in Illinois that no municipality in the state is allowed to make any such laws. They did it anyway and this is the kind of Tyranny we were warned would happen.

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In all honesty, in 2020 if the Democrats hold the house, and take the Senate, and Presidency there will be a Federal Assault Weapons Ban. I read Feinsteins legislation, it is the same old stuff, 10 round capacity, semi-auto only, you can keep the ones you have if you register them...Bla...Bla...Bla.

I think what it will eventually get to is a ban on all handguns, and semiautomatic firearms.

I think it would stay there for a while, pumps, levers, bolts, DB, single shot, and black powder weapons will be safe.

It's strange, you can keep an M1 under Feinsteins legislation, if you want to see mayhem, unleash two guys in a school with M1's

I am just old fashioned I guess. Most of my firearms are pump, bolt, or lever action, and throw in a double barrel 12 gauge coach gun. For the rifles, I like old cartridges like 30.06, 30-30, 45-70, etc. My Marlin 60 .22 is a tube fed semi auto though. I do have a Ruger .45ACP, but I don't carry it anywhere.

I had to carry a M-16 in the Army, but never was fond of it. I never got all caught up the black rifle fad.

marineimaging said:

So, in your opinion what is the advantage of a 45-70 over any of the others?

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I had a Marlin 1895 lever in 45-70 that was a great carry rifle when I lived in the interior of Alaska for 10 years. A 405 grain round nose in it did exactly what I needed and was easy to shoulder and shoot and quick follow ups if needed. Great carry rifle when I took the boys fishing in the Black River area. A big thud when it hits the side of a Moose. Like hitting them with a boulder. Most shots in that area I lived are under 125 yds. Yeah, there are other cartridges that would also work, but I knew a guy who blasted a grizzly in the face with a 30.06 with a 220 gn round nose north of Fairbanks and he tracked the bear for 5 miles and never found it. Great... a wounded bear wandering around. Probably died later.

Something like a .375 H&H would not be as ideal as a carry rifle even though it is a powerful round.