Jesus' Parables

Which ones?
Parable of the Sower in Matthew 13 Jesus gives an illustration of how seeds actually work.
But did Jesus ever sow corn? I don't think so.

Doug Melven said:

Which ones?
Parable of the Sower in Matthew 13 Jesus gives an illustration of how seeds actually work.
But did Jesus ever sow corn? I don't think so.

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Jesus saw corn being sowed? Me say yes.
Did he ever plant corn? Ummm likely every single person planted gardens for food.

SkyWriting said:

Jesus saw corn being sowed? Me say yes.

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AV1611VET said:

In your opinion, were the parables that Jesus told real events?

Keep in mind this really happened:

Numbers 23:7 And he took up his parable, and said, Balak the king of Moab hath brought me from Aram, out of the mountains of the east, saying, Come, curse me Jacob, and come, defy Israel.

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Very likely Jesus saw, with his own human eyes,
people and stories he used for illustrative purposes during His ministry.

"Worst case" scenario: The Father gave him visions of actual events to use as illustrations. How sad would that be?

But lets get back to illustrative stories:

Adam and Eve
Noah
The Ark of the Covenant -> Mary

The Bronze Serpent -> Christ

Moses and Elijah on Moutaintops -> Transfiguration

Creation -> Christ’s Baptism (Father, “Word”, Sprit)

Abraham sacrificing Isaac -> Crucifixion.

Moses -> a Sinner not destined for hell

SkyWriting said:

Jesus saw corn being sowed? Me say yes.
Did he ever plant corn? Ummm likely every single person planted gardens for food.

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There is no record of Jesus planting corn, He was a Carpenter.
Off topic, let's drop it.

Doug Melven said:

There is no record of Jesus planting corn, He was a Carpenter.
Off topic, let's drop it.

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The father of Jesus, Joseph, farmed land for his family of seven.
But not enough acres (12-24)for an adequate food source.
On topic.
All of Jesus illustrations were common events and relatable.
None needed to be fictional and fiction would not help.

Doug Melven said:

There is no record of Jesus planting corn, He was a Carpenter.
Off topic, let's drop it.

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Btw, corn wasn't planted in the Middle East or Europe until the discovery of maize in North America. At any rate the imagery of a sower planting a crop would have been a familar one.

SkyWriting said:

The father of Jesus, Joseph, farmed land for his family of seven.
But not enough acres (12-24)for an adequate food source.
On topic.

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People typically had a family garden, what Jesus is describing is more of a commercial crop.

AV1611VET said:

In your opinion, were the parables that Jesus told real events?

Keep in mind this really happened:

Numbers 23:7 And he took up his parable, and said, Balak the king of Moab hath brought me from Aram, out of the mountains of the east, saying, Come, curse me Jacob, and come, defy Israel.

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If not real events, true to life at least.

Jesus always prefaced His Parables, so the people who He was speaking to knew in advance what He was speaking about, but even with that added knowledge, they were not able to understand what He was talking about because, they were not to know the Mysteries of the Kingdom of God, but we are, do we understand the Parables of Jesus, or are the just stories without a purpose?

Are our Eyes and Ears open to the Gospel Message of Jesus?

Doug Melven said:

Which ones?
Parable of the Sower in Matthew 13 Jesus gives an illustration of how seeds actually work.
But did Jesus ever sow corn? I don't think so.

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The parable didn't say he sowed corn. I hope you don't think you just proved something.

nonaeroterraqueous said:

The parable didn't say he sowed corn. I hope you don't think you just proved something.

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Read the parallel passage in Mark 4:26-28

mark kennedy said:

Btw, corn wasn't planted in the Middle East or Europe until the discovery of maize in North America. At any rate the imagery of a sower planting a crop would have been a familar one.

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Ah, this is a difference in meaning between American and (British) English.

The parable in Mark 4:28 has 'corn' in English versions (e.g. AV and Anglicised NIV).
First, or at least, an early mention of 'coin' is the dream that Joseph had where his brothers' corn sheaves bowed down to his. (Gen 37).

I think the American translation for 'corn' is 'grain'.

Corn is an old English word for any sort of grain but primarily wheat. In North America the plant known to the Indians as maise has come to be called corn in popular usage. Maise was unknown outside of the Americas until after European settlement. So Jesus didn't know maise or potatoes or tomatoes at all.

HantsUK said:

Ah, this is a difference in meaning between American and (British) English.

The parable in Mark 4:28 has 'corn' in English versions (e.g. AV and Anglicised NIV).
First, or at least, an early mention of 'coin' is the dream that Joseph had where his brothers' corn sheaves bowed down to his. (Gen 37).

I think the American translation for 'corn' is 'grain'.

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I looked it up, it just means seed and in certain context it can mean sower. It is kind of interesting that it would be translated corn, that must have been a common crop at the time. At the time Jesus is speaking in I think it's far more likely wheat or barley. They are mentioned specifically in connection with tithes and offering. Private gardens were not taxed, so what Jesus has in mind here is a commercial crop. Corn kind of fits, it does feed more people then any other crop except rice.

JackRT said:

Corn is an old English word for any sort of grain but primarily wheat.

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No, not old, but current (English in the UK).

HantsUK said:

No, not old, but current (English in the UK).

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Is prior to AD 900 old as far as English is concerned?

AV1611VET said:

In your opinion, were the parables that Jesus told real events?

Keep in mind this really happened:

Numbers 23:7 And he took up his parable, and said, Balak the king of Moab hath brought me from Aram, out of the mountains of the east, saying, Come, curse me Jacob, and come, defy Israel.

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I believe this story/parable is the only one that mentions actually names and Lazarus did die in John 11. The rich man however is not named......

Lazarus and the Rich Man - Here a little, there a little - Commentary

Luke 16:
14The Pharisees, who were lovers of money, also heard all these things, and they scoffed at him. 15He said to them, "You are those who justify yourselves in the sight of men, but God knows your hearts. For that which is exalted among men is an abomination in the sight of God.

19"Now there was a certain rich man, and he was clothed in purple and fine linen, living in luxury every day. 20A certain beggar, named Lazarus, was laid at his gate, full of sores, 21and desiring to be fed with the crumbs that fell from the rich man's table. Yes, even the dogs came and licked his sores. 22It happened that the beggar died, and that he was carried away by the angels to Abraham's bosom. The rich man also died, and was buried. 23In Hades, he lifted up his eyes, being in torment, and saw Abraham far off, and Lazarus at his bosom. 24He cried and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue! For I am in anguish in this flame.'
29"But Abraham said to him, 'They have Moses and the prophets. Let them listen to them.' 30"He said, 'No, father Abraham, but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.' 31"He said to him, 'If they don't listen to Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded if one rises from the dead.'"

John 11:43
43 Now when He had said these things, He cried with a loud voice, “Lazarus, come forth!”
44 And he who had died came out bound hand and foot with graveclothes, and his face was wrapped with a cloth. Jesus said to them, “Loose him, and let him go.”

Doug Melven said:

But did Jesus ever sow corn? I don't think so.

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Maize is the proper name for what we in North America called corn. But until recently corn was a generic English term for any sort of seed grain. So Jesus was certainly familiar with planting 'corn' but he never planted maize.

AV1611VET said:

In your opinion, were the parables that Jesus told real events?

Keep in mind this really happened:

Numbers 23:7 And he took up his parable, and said, Balak the king of Moab hath brought me from Aram, out of the mountains of the east, saying, Come, curse me Jacob, and come, defy Israel.

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Jesus' Parables were about events which would happen to the Jewish Nation, and about the Kingdom of God, so technically the answer would have to be a qualified yes.

When looking at the verse mentioned, the Jewish word Parable means.

PARABLE:
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מָשָׁל
mâshâl
maw-shawl'
Properly a pithy maxim, usually of a metaphorical nature; hence a simile (as an adage, poem, discourse): - byword, like, parable, proverb.

In the Hebrew, English Interlinear Bible it says (PROVERB).

The man Lazarus while being a real person, was not a poor beggar, therefore he was not the person spoken of in the Story Jesus related.

The Story of Lazarus and the rich man, was not a Parable in the first place.
This story does not even have any of the earmarks of a Parable.

If anything this story is a Prophesy.

The Rich man is (the Jewish Nation, Israel) the Beggar are the Gentiles, the Jews will lose the Kingdom, and the Gentiles will inherit it.
Jesus was speaking of Himself in the last verse.

Luke 16:31
And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.