What knowledge from the tree, God said Adam and Eve as one of us?

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This is probably not a question or a discussion, but something I have wondered most of my life and just something I would like to share. I've wondered most of my life what knowledge Adam and Eve received from the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil that would make them ashamed that they were naked. They were created and were together from the beginning and they were naked and not ashamed. What knowledge did they receive from that Tree that God said that they are now as one of us?

Imagination knowledge, the act or power of forming a mental image of something not present to the senses or never before wholly perceived in reality. Something that you think exist or is true, although in fact it is not real or true. The thing that man can use to create in his mind anything as God. The ability to generate in our mind to build mental scenes of objects or people or events that do not exist, that can be good or totally perverted.

Imagination knowledge makes it possible to experience a whole world inside the mind. Imagination knowledge is not limited only to seeing pictures in the mind. It includes all the five senses and the feelings. One can imagine a sound, taste, smell, a physical sensation or a feeling or emotion. Adam was given ingenuity knowledge, ability to solve difficult problems so they could subdue and have dominion, but that is different than imagination knowledge.

Genesis 6:5 (KJV) 5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

Proverbs 6:18 (KJV) 18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

Jeremiah 13:10 (KJV) 10 This evil people, which refuse to hear my words, which walk in the imagination of their heart, and walk after other gods, to serve them, and to worship them, shall even be as this girdle, which is good for nothing.

Romans 1:21-22 (KJV) 21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.

2 Corinthians 10:5 (KJV) 5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

So, all of a sudden, Adam and Eve have the knowledge of being naked and the imagination of evil that is possible. Sin corrupted their innocence and was joined with guilt and fear for they knew evil and their imaginations took over. The imagination knowledge makes us like gods because we can create our own gods and be as gods. The most destructive and deceptive element of the imagination knowledge is, it suckers us into the belief it is secret, only in our minds, it’s ok because only we know. What we don’t realize, it is also recorded by our conscience (spirit) and can be seen by the Spirit of LORD God.

1 Chronicles 28:9 (KJV) 9 And thou, Solomon my son, know thou the God of thy father, and serve him with a perfect heart and with a willing mind: for the Lord searcheth all hearts, and understandeth all the imaginations of the thoughts: if thou seek him, he will be found of thee; but if thou forsake him, he will cast thee off for ever.

Thanks for letting me share this, maybe someone else has a different idea. May our hearts be perfect. In light and love Rodron
 
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What knowledge did they receive from that Tree that God said that they are now as one of us?

"Then the Lord God said, 'Behold, the man has become like one of us in knowing good and evil.'" - Genesis 3:22

I think this answers your question, they were made aware of good and evil after falling from that state of purity and innocence.
 
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"Then the Lord God said, 'Behold, the man has become like one of us in knowing good and evil.'" - Genesis 3:22

I think this answers your question, they were made aware of good and evil after falling from that state of purity and innocence.
Thanks Jonaitis ! I should have worded it better. I understand eating of that tree "the man become like one of us knowing good and evil". Breaking Gods commandment sin entered and corrupted their innocence and sin entered the world. The imagination part of that knowledge is the most deceptive element of our flesh that without actually committing a sin, if the imagination of it is inside us we have committed that sin already in our heart. The deception is, we think just thinking of something it is not a sin. "let none of you imagine evil against his brother in your heart". Eve was deceived Adam willfully broke the commandment, so he knew right and wrong. Good and evil is more than right and wrong, they were naked from the beginning but they now knew they were naked and were ashamed. God clothed Adam and Eve with animal skin, but it came at a cost, the blood of an animal. Sorry just a thought not well thought out Rodron
 
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In actuality, adam/eve was blind/sleep.
They actually did not know they were naked until they ate of the tree. (Genesis 3:11)

The reason why I say they were blind or sleep is because their "eyes had opened" and they "knew" they were naked. (Genesis 3:7)

GOD made adam/eve in like a baby state. You don't get mad when a baby is walking naked because they did not know any better. adam/eve was pure and innocent. (Genesis 2:25)

People always like to say knowledge is power but it's not always in the positive. In this case, knowledge was negative. (Ecclesiastes 12:12)
 
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In actuality, adam/eve was blind/sleep.
They actually did not know they were naked until they ate of the tree. (Genesis 3:11)

The reason why I say they were blind or sleep is because their "eyes had opened" and they "knew" they were naked. (Genesis 3:7)

GOD made adam/eve in like a baby state. You don't get mad when a baby is walking naked because they did not know any better. adam/eve was pure and innocent. (Genesis 2:25)

People always like to say knowledge is power but it's not always in the positive. In this case, knowledge was negative. (Ecclesiastes 12:12)
Hey 1am3laine! Good point!
 
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This is probably not a question or a discussion, but something I have wondered most of my life and just something I would like to share. I've wondered most of my life what knowledge Adam and Eve received from the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil that would make them ashamed that they were naked. ...

It is interesting question. I don’t think the tree itself gave anything. But after they had eaten the fruit, they begun to see things differently.
 
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This is probably not a question or a discussion, but something I have wondered most of my life and just something I would like to share. I've wondered most of my life what knowledge Adam and Eve received from the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil that would make them ashamed that they were naked. They were created and were together from the beginning and they were naked and not ashamed. What knowledge did they receive from that Tree that God said that they are now as one of us?

Imagination knowledge, the act or power of forming a mental image of something not present to the senses or never before wholly perceived in reality. Something that you think exist or is true, although in fact it is not real or true. The thing that man can use to create in his mind anything as God. The ability to generate in our mind to build mental scenes of objects or people or events that do not exist, that can be good or totally perverted.

Imagination knowledge makes it possible to experience a whole world inside the mind. Imagination knowledge is not limited only to seeing pictures in the mind. It includes all the five senses and the feelings. One can imagine a sound, taste, smell, a physical sensation or a feeling or emotion. Adam was given ingenuity knowledge, ability to solve difficult problems so they could subdue and have dominion, but that is different than imagination knowledge.

Genesis 6:5 (KJV) 5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

Proverbs 6:18 (KJV) 18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

Jeremiah 13:10 (KJV) 10 This evil people, which refuse to hear my words, which walk in the imagination of their heart, and walk after other gods, to serve them, and to worship them, shall even be as this girdle, which is good for nothing.

Romans 1:21-22 (KJV) 21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.

2 Corinthians 10:5 (KJV) 5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

So, all of a sudden, Adam and Eve have the knowledge of being naked and the imagination of evil that is possible. Sin corrupted their innocence and was joined with guilt and fear for they knew evil and their imaginations took over. The imagination knowledge makes us like gods because we can create our own gods and be as gods. The most destructive and deceptive element of the imagination knowledge is, it suckers us into the belief it is secret, only in our minds, it’s ok because only we know. What we don’t realize, it is also recorded by our conscience (spirit) and can be seen by the Spirit of LORD God.

1 Chronicles 28:9 (KJV) 9 And thou, Solomon my son, know thou the God of thy father, and serve him with a perfect heart and with a willing mind: for the Lord searcheth all hearts, and understandeth all the imaginations of the thoughts: if thou seek him, he will be found of thee; but if thou forsake him, he will cast thee off for ever.

Thanks for letting me share this, maybe someone else has a different idea. May our hearts be perfect. In light and love Rodron
A major paradigm shift occurred in their world when our first parents first sinned. They had separated themselves from the source of their lives/existence. In some sense they had actually separated themselves and humanity from 1) God, from 2) each other, and even 3) from their very own selves. By rejecting God's authority they had rejected God as their God, and had then directly experienced the first act/state of evil: that very unnatural separation, itself, of God from His creation. Shame of self, reflected in shame of their bodies, was the result of man not being satisfied with his created status; he now must awkwardly attempt to hide this truth from himself and God and anyone else by covering up. Man wanted to be like God, but apart from Him. But man was made for communion with God; we're dependent on Him ('apart from Whom we can do nothing'-John 15:5) not only for our existence but for our state of justice, and the pride that wishes to exalt us to a state equal to or higher than God only brings destruction, as we may observe everyday in our non-Edenic world now.

And this is the point. The first evil that Adam and Eve experienced or knew was the granddaddy, the precursor, of all evil, of all moral evil, aka "sin", that all humanity would literally know from that time on. And by default we also know its opposite: good. Until evil was known everything in creation, in their world, was good, because God created everything that way -so good wasn't identifiable as a unique reality. Once evil was known, however, both good and evil came into contrast; the knowledge of good and evil was now possessed by man, as God had always possessed it, since, being omniscient, He knew that anything lying outside of His will was inherently evil by its nature. And A& E had opposed His will, as Lucifer had before.

And so it's interesting that the Hebrew word for "know" here in Genesis is frequently used for intimate, direct knowledge, by experience, used in the bible, for example, for physical conjugal knowledge between man and woman.
 
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Nakedness and shame. It was about them trying to cover themselves and God likening them to sheep in His covering. God likens humans to many things, sheep being the form that the saviour came in and delivers us thru Psalms 23

The bible’s full of history, analogies and parables, but outstanding from those are the uses of patterns to determine what God thinks of humans. Sheep is the formost for implications as to salvation. The use of women figures in allegories is another. Pslams 31 an example of what the work in this would consists of for a productive human and the scorn derived from being with a human of unsavoury character another. We mustn’t mix analogies with facts or we will have the wolf at any door which is not the entrance belonging to the good sheppard of our souls.
 
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