Sovereign Citizen with pig shaped bomb arrested

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Dennis Duane Vann, 42, of Cambridge, Minn., was charged Friday in Ramsey County District Court with making threats of violence with reckless disregard for risk, and fleeing police, both felonies.

More charges could come. The complaint notes police recovered “a device from the RV that was shaped like a pig and had ‘(expletive) the police’ written on it. The pig held an energetic powder and appears to be an explosive device.”

“He said, ‘A couple of cops are going to die.’ … He made multiple references to having an IED,” said Maplewood Police Chief Scott Nadeau.
 
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Dennis Duane Vann, 42, of Cambridge, Minn., was charged Friday in Ramsey County District Court with making threats of violence with reckless disregard for risk, and fleeing police, both felonies.

More charges could come. The complaint notes police recovered “a device from the RV that was shaped like a pig and had ‘(expletive) the police’ written on it. The pig held an energetic powder and appears to be an explosive device.”

“He said, ‘A couple of cops are going to die.’ … He made multiple references to having an IED,” said Maplewood Police Chief Scott Nadeau.

What's really creepy is that I might have been one of them had God not granted me some discernment and good counseling. I encountered a group of Sovereigns about 2 decades ago, and they gave me some books to read. I tried to understand their viewpoint legally, and I just couldn't wrap my head around it. Someone told me that he knew one of those guys who was in prison. So I didn't feel like taking a big risk like that, seeing that I would have to spend my life studying law, or put my life into the hands of their "lawyers" who hadn't proved they could win a court case. I chalked my initial desire to join due to greed, since they said they didn't pay tax. I'm glad the Lord snatched me out of that net.
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People can be mentally ill (not that this guy is) and still be total jerks (this guy is). I don't know what to say except I'm glad he got caught before any damage was done. I'm sorry for his family.
 
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Dennis Duane Vann, 42, of Cambridge, Minn., was charged Friday in Ramsey County District Court with making threats of violence with reckless disregard for risk, and fleeing police, both felonies.

More charges could come. The complaint notes police recovered “a device from the RV that was shaped like a pig and had ‘(expletive) the police’ written on it. The pig held an energetic powder and appears to be an explosive device.”

“He said, ‘A couple of cops are going to die.’ … He made multiple references to having an IED,” said Maplewood Police Chief Scott Nadeau.

Glad he's off the streets.
 
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The sovereigns are right about an evil government having crept in and taking much more authority over your lives than was the intent of the founders. In their own way they are fighting a revolution or civil war based on their principals. They do tend to draw some from the fringe. Having a lot of time invested into sorting out what is really going on and what is the Biblical direction I feel sorry for them as they are right to fear and oppose the world and local politic. The kingdom and time for the antichrist to rise is coming upon us and most just want to get on with their lives. They have no hope and only see it getting darker. Eventually violent opposition will come from those with no hope. As a Christian I see this as coming to pass and look for the king of kings. Here is a link to a long but very good primer for how the world and especially the US is really run. It is by Stanley Montieth now deceased and he ties together the control and influence of many institutions to a common power and principality. Many of you dismiss conspiracy evidence based on poor videos with bad music that are not good journalism. He is excellent well sourced and presents information that will certainly give you a better understanding of where we are heading.


 
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The sovereigns are right about an evil government having crept in and taking much more authority over your lives than was the intent of the founders. In their own way they are fighting a revolution or civil war based on their principals. They do tend to draw some from the fringe. Having a lot of time invested into sorting out what is really going on and what is the Biblical direction I feel sorry for them as they are right to fear and oppose the world and local politic. The kingdom and time for the antichrist to rise is coming upon us and most just want to get on with their lives. They have no hope and only see it getting darker. Eventually violent opposition will come from those with no hope. As a Christian I see this as coming to pass and look for the king of kings. Here is a link to a long but very good primer for how the world and especially the US is really run. It is by Stanley Montieth now deceased and he ties together the control and influence of many institutions to a common power and principality. Many of you dismiss conspiracy evidence based on poor videos with bad music that are not good journalism. He is excellent well sourced and presents information that will certainly give you a better understanding of where we are heading.



In my view, the Sovereigns create an unbiblical situation for themselves, since Rom. 13 clearly states to submit to authorities, that God has established them. The very reason for their paranoia is from their own creation to make governmental authority their enemy by disregarding common laws. Jesus called us to be an influence for His will in the world, not to get out of the world by isolating ourselves, which is what the Sovereigns do. I'm just relating my experience and how I've learned to apply the scripture.
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In my view, the Sovereigns create an unbiblical situation for themselves, since Rom. 13 clearly states to submit to authorities, that God has established them. The very reason for their paranoia is from their own creation to make governmental authority their enemy by disregarding common laws. Jesus called us to be an influence for His will in the world, not to get out of the world by isolating ourselves, which is what the Sovereigns do. I'm just relating my experience and how I've learned to apply the scripture.
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i agree with you but they do know their history and things like the income tax are not the founders intent. If we support the manifest destiny used to forge this nation they certainly did not adhere to those principals in Romans. In a sense they are standing on the older platform of liberty and really have no hope of overcoming the big brother now in charge.
 
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i agree with you but they do know their history and things like the income tax are not the founders intent. If we support the manifest destiny used to forge this nation they certainly did not adhere to those principals in Romans. In a sense they are standing on the older platform of liberty and really have no hope of overcoming the big brother now in charge.
I dispute they know their history, knowledge of the law, or anthropology. My observation is that they are largely uneducated and/or ignorant.

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To evaluate weather this movement is a bunch of nuts or not you have to find out what their platform is based on. Not having a good understanding of exactly what they are based on I searched out for what is their platform is. I found it difficult to find a presentation of their beliefs as they were buried under many results demonizing the movement. The sources of a lot of the detraction are the right enemies to have. I do not agree with all of this presentation but he correctly identifies the real power structure of the elite and recognizes the history of the increase of government and the loss of individual liberty. As a prophecy student I recognize a world movement to merge all nations to take away both national and individual sovereignty. This battle is spiritual and we will see the rise of this world power. This video is a bit old from 1995 but lays out what and why they believe what they do. This is a place to debate the actual stated points that make up their platform.

 
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To evaluate weather this movement is a bunch of nuts or not you have to find out what their platform is based on. Not having a good understanding of exactly what they are based on I searched out for what is their platform is. I found it difficult to find a presentation of their beliefs as they were buried under many results demonizing the movement. The sources of a lot of the detraction are the right enemies to have. I do not agree with all of this presentation but he correctly identifies the real power structure of the elite and recognizes the history of the increase of government and the loss of individual liberty. As a prophecy student I recognize a world movement to merge all nations to take away both national and individual sovereignty. This battle is spiritual and we will see the rise of this world power. This video is a bit old from 1995 but lays out what and why they believe what they do. This is a place to debate the actual stated points that make up their platform.

Disagree - they come in several forms - First there's the Moorish - African Americans who believe that the law doesn't apply to them because they come from Morroco - confused yet?

Then there are those who have conspiracy theories blended with the notion that their interpretation of constitutional law allows, if they wish, to be free of any national or state laws - so they don't pay taxes, have a drivers licence or register their vehicles, yet expect to drive on the road paid by those citizens who do pay their taxes. They believe that the nation as a whole, is a company with whom they have cancelled all contracts, thus releasing them from any legal obligations.

Thirdly there are religious individuals, mainly Christians, who believe that God is the only power they are to obey.

They are largely deluded and uneducated - and potentially dangerous.
 
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To evaluate weather this movement is a bunch of nuts or not you have to find out what their platform is based on. Not having a good understanding of exactly what they are based on I searched out for what is their platform is. I found it difficult to find a presentation of their beliefs as they were buried under many results demonizing the movement. The sources of a lot of the detraction are the right enemies to have. I do not agree with all of this presentation but he correctly identifies the real power structure of the elite and recognizes the history of the increase of government and the loss of individual liberty. As a prophecy student I recognize a world movement to merge all nations to take away both national and individual sovereignty. This battle is spiritual and we will see the rise of this world power. This video is a bit old from 1995 but lays out what and why they believe what they do. This is a place to debate the actual stated points that make up their platform.

The purported "loss of individual liberty" is largely a myth and its supposed harbingers merely byproducts of a government scaling up to try to handle a society that continues to grow larger and more complicated. It's odd that the folks on the conspiratorial far right who complain about loss of liberties and sovereignty often also believe in some flavor of Christianity - a Christianity that teaches that "freedom in Christ" is achieved by sacrificing some measure of individual sovereignty to God. Apparently, it's never occurred to them that the same principle can exist in civic life.
 
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I dispute they know their history, knowledge of the law, or anthropology. My observation is that they are largely uneducated and/or ignorant.


Warning - at times the people in the video use offensive language


i love the guy in the thumbnail I can watch that happen to him many times :>
 
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