Jesus turning water into wine....

Jenniferdiana · Feb 21, 2019

Hi.In the book of John there is a verse about Jesus turning water into wine, well I was sitting here pondering about something and I know this subject is a much debated topic here but anyway cause it popped up in my mind, i wanted to state my opinion on it. Anyway I think that verse means when Jesus turned the water into wine, it represented something more then Jesus making some miraculous wine, I think the water and wine represented Jesus body. I just read a verse where it said Jesus is born of water and blood. We know Jesus was also born of the holy spirit. And the holy spirit is like that of water, clean and pure. Jesus was born of blood because he was human but he was also born of water, meaning because he was born of the spirit and the spirit represents water,and water is like represented for something clean and pure and because Jesus was born of water and blood, that means his blood was pure. He was spotless.Just like the water he turned into wine, he used water probably because it would make the wine not only clean but pure. So I think that represents Jesus body and since it was first miracle, he was introducing himself into the world and not only himself but the one who came with him, the holy spirit. I also been thinking about one other verse in the book of John .where it says we are to eat of his flesh and drink his blood, And isn't Jesus the word? And if the Bible says he is the word, doesn't it mean if we read the word daily,he would come live in us and become one with our flesh and blood and we will become one with his flesh of blood which is made of water. Something clean and pure. Since he was made of the word and the word became his flesh and blood Jesus was sinless and since he was that mean every part of him is pure inside of him. His flesh is pure. His blood is pure because he was born of the water which represents the holy spirit. The water he turned into wine which became one in the spirit, one in unity. one in purified. One in Jesus who by we become purified also. Where if we eat of his flesh and drink of his blood daily which is the word, which is his body also. I don't think nothing really matters if we don't consume ourselves on the word daily because the word is spirit, it is life and without the word there is no life cause the word is what gives us life which leads us to eternal life through the holy spirit which we can only recieve when we become born again. That's why the Bible says, everything in this world will past away but the word will not. We live our lives complaining about all our problems when most of us have our Bibles resting on a bookshelf with dust partly on it not seeing that that book is the answer to our life. I really believe nothing matters in life but living with and in the word daily. Jesus is the word and since he is the word, The word which is true, the bible is true foundation we are suppose to be building ourselves on. Because honestly no matter how we read the word it all leads back to being one with Jesus the word and the holy spirit who breathes life into us when are in the word which guides us into a truth where only through Jesus where we can recieve eternal life ...

com7fy8 · Feb 21, 2019

I believe Jesus turned the water into wine.

And Jesus is the Truth; He is all who God is. And in us Jesus shares with us how He is . . . more and more as we grow in His love >

"Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in the day of judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world." (1 John 4:17)

So, yes "in this world" we do so share with Jesus, in how He is and how He loves, having us loving in sharing with Him

Jenniferdiana · Feb 21, 2019

com7fy8 said:

I believe Jesus turned the water into wine.

And Jesus is the Truth; He is all who God is. And in us Jesus shares with us how He is . . . more and more as we grow in His love >

"Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in the bday of judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world." (1 John 4:17)

So, yes "in this world" we do so share with Jesus, in how He is and how He loves, having us loving in sharing with Him

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What do you mean? I already know that part..I'm talking about the water and wine representing the blood spirit and water which is his body. the word feeds our bodies with his flesh and blood when we consume the word, his flesh and blood which is made of water and his body being born in the spirit....I'm just saying Jesus body is pure and could represent the water and wine at the wedding in Cana...Jesus did say wine should be drank in remembrance of him ....I think he did it that way to introduce himself...since it was his first miracle...

Jenniferdiana · Feb 21, 2019

And I know Jesus is the truth but what makes him the truth? His word, The Word, I believe..Jesus is the truth cause he is one with his father the spirit and the word...

com7fy8 · Feb 22, 2019

Hi, Jennifer Diana

Jenniferdiana said:
What do you mean?

Well . . . I have been asking myself what you mean. I have not been sure; so I offered something, in case it would make sense and fit with what you are sharing.

Please let me try to see if I can understand you better. Thank you for making yourself more clear . . . so I can understand

Jenniferdiana said:
I'm talking about the water and wine representing the blood spirit and water which is his body.

I think Jesus is more concerned about who He is spiritually, than how His physical body was.

So, I would say He was representing how we can become, spiritually, deeper than how our bodies are. Wine has flavor and fragrance . . . and nutrients . . . like how we can be changed from being watery, to being fragrant like Jesus (2 Corinthians 2:14-15) and nutritional to minister His grace to one another (1 Peter 4:9-10) . . . like Jesus ministers grace to us.

Jenniferdiana said:
the word feeds our bodies with his flesh and blood when we consume the word, his flesh and blood which is made of water and his body being born in the spirit....

I think first that God's word is for feeding our spirit, not only our physical flesh and blood bodies. And our Apostle Paul speaks of "the washing of water by the word", in Ephesians 5:25-27.

It would not be enough to just wash our physical bodies.

Jenniferdiana said:
I'm just saying Jesus body is pure and could represent the water and wine at the wedding in Cana

Most of all, I understand, is how Jesus is pure spiritually, deeper than His body on this earth was. Of course, now Jesus has a resurrected body. But at that time, His physical body had not been resurrected, and so He could suffer pain . . . physically.

But Jesus was so strong spiritually, in almighty power, that evil spirit stuff could not get the better of Him.

Jenniferdiana said:
Jesus did say wine should be drank in remembrance of him ....I think he did it that way to introduce himself...since it was his first miracle...

Yes, I understand that the first miracle was designed to introduce Jesus. And for me personally it can symbolize how our salvation begins with us being transformed from being watery, to being sweetly fragrant and flavorful but also nutritious to feed one another how to become like Jesus in love.

But this is spiritual, not physical in only our bodies.

com7fy8 · Feb 22, 2019

Jenniferdiana said:
And I know Jesus is the truth but what makes him the truth? His word, The Word, I believe..Jesus is the truth cause he is one with his father the spirit and the word...

But Jesus is "the Word" > John 1:1. He is the Truth, by being all who God is. And yes Jesus is one with our Father and the Holy Spirit. And His message comes from who and how He is.

ViaCrucis · Feb 22, 2019

Jesus turned water into wine because the wedding party was low on wine, and His mother asked Him to help out. Jesus pointed out that it wasn't yet time for Him to begin His work, but nevertheless, He did what His mom asked. And also, we see here how Mary points to her Son, because she knows He's really important even if nobody else does yet. It's a beautiful story about the relationship between Jesus and His mother, and God's concern for even mundane things--like wedding parties.

There's no mysteriously deep esoteric meaning here. Sometimes wine is just wine, and a party is just a party.

-CryptoLutheran

Jenniferdiana · Feb 22, 2019

Unless we stay abided in Jesus we can't do anything...and we can only do that by keeping his word and staying in the word cause his flesh which is the word and his blood being spiritually pure, clean because as a whole he is the word...So when the word enters us and stays in us our flesh and blood becomes one with his flesh and blood which purifies us when he is abided in us, we are one with him, one body, one flesh....I'm sure his blood is mix with water cause he is of the holy spirit who is of God...His body is not only holy but divine. And I also i believe he did that to introduce himself for it being his first miracle and he introduced himself by showing who he is on the inside..and what he is truly made of....it also seemed like a spiritual matter, i could be wrong but I see it no other way...the water being poured in the barrels represent the holy spirit cleansing our bodies and the water turning into wine means our blood has become purified by the water, the spirit, the spirit of Jesus...and now our blood is of water also...but I could be wrong..I don't know ..that's how I think it....

Jenniferdiana · Feb 22, 2019

I get that Jesus is loving..you think i dont know that? I was pointing out the word and comparing it to that wedding party theme..etc.because it came to mind.. so i just wanted to share my thoughts about it and that i came to the conclusion nothing matters in the world but the word, God's truths..

icxn · Feb 22, 2019

The six stone water jars represent our creative* capacity for virtue and knowledge, which after the fall became empty of its content. The servants that filled them with water are the Old Testament prophets and the water their teachings. When Christ came, He transformed this water into wine, which is to say, He revealed the spiritual meaning of the law and the prophets that makes us partakers of the divine nature. His mother that compels Him to make this transformation and partaking in us – symbolically speaking – is either faith, humility combined with love or wisdom. For the thirtyfold of faith, the sixtyfold of love and humility and the hundredfold of wisdom, all bear saving fruit.

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* Man’s inner world of virtue and knowledge is in the ‘image’ of the visible creation, which was made in six days. The great number of metaphors from nature, scripture employs to teach us something about ourselves, should convince you of that.

Jenniferdiana · Feb 22, 2019

icxn said:

The six stone water jars represent our creative* capacity for virtue and knowledge, which after the fall became empty of its content. The servants that filled them with water are the Old Testament prophets and the water their teachings. When Christ came, He transformed this water into wine, which is to say, He revealed the spiritual meaning of the law and the prophets that makes us partakers of the divine nature. His mother that compels Him to make this transformation and partaking in us – symbolically speaking – is either faith, humility combined with love or wisdom. For the thirtyfold of faith, the sixtyfold of love and humility and the hundredfold of wisdom, all bear saving fruit.

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icxn said:
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* Man’s inner world of virtue and knowledge is in the ‘image’ of the visible creation, which was made in six days. The great number of metaphors from nature, scripture employs to teach us something about ourselves, should convince you of that.

And where did you hear that? How did you come up with that? Where did you get that information? Anyway, I was just sharing my opinion and thoughts on it, you don't have to agree with me and I am sorry but I don't agree with what y'all are saying because it doesn't sound right. We may never know the truth but I know if the truth is not in you, you won't believe anything. And I am not saying I am right either. The truth is the truth until it becomes a reality. And the reality is people can say they are in Christ but don't accept the truth cause the truth is not in them...they hate the truth like you say he is. Maybe I haven't worded my post correctly but I do know that the Bible says we can only be abided in him when we accept and keep the word in our hearts. No one can say they believe in Christ if there is no truth in them and can't accept the truth like you say he is..and no one can say they have the holy spirit when they speak from thier own mouth and not the holy spirit itself and I know darn well most posts on this forum doesn't sound like it's from the holy spirit and the holy spirit delivers spiritual things...not a natural things....and if someone isn't in the holy spirit they won't understand much of it.....you don't have to agree with me though, we all are entitled to our own opinions and that was just mine...you may not agree with me however I don't agree with yours either ...it's fine

Jenniferdiana · Feb 22, 2019

Most people probably just see a man who died on the cross to save them from thier sins, a man who loves them and I am sure he does, but that's probably all they see, just that man on that cross, they see that man but not the heart in that man....they see him but not his heart..You say he is the truth which is true but i really wonder who Jesus is to some...

Jenniferdiana · Feb 22, 2019

In the book of Matthews Jesus asked his disciples "who do you say I am?_ i remembering them saying many things to him and then when peter looked at him he said "you are the son of the living God." etc. Then times later Peter denied him...and like Judas who was also supposedly close to him yet betrayed him....unless we stay abided in Christ and build ourselves on the word, we will easily fall away too cause Jesus says, the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak" and our flesh is contrary to the Bible cause the Bible is a spiritual book and our flesh is nothing of that but what it can become when we become born again, live on the truth which is Jesus, the true bread from heaven, his body, his flesh etc, the word which we are also to keep in our hearts...

Jenniferdiana · Feb 22, 2019

You can say you love someone and that you really know that person, but why does it matter to say you love that person though..and don't treat them right...etc

icxn · Feb 22, 2019

Forgive me, I literally spilled the spice container into that post, which made it indigestible. Sorry :sorry:

Jenniferdiana · Feb 22, 2019

icxn said:

Forgive me, I literally spilled the spice container into that post, which made it indigestible. Sorry

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It's ok but what do you mean?

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