Apoparently you are unfamiliar with Greek lexicons. I would suggest that someone introduce you to one. They are quite helpful in understanding what the Greek really says.
btw, I didn't give "my interpretation". I gave what the actual Greek words mean.
Of course it's a fact. The Bible plainly says so. 1 Tim 4:1 is just one of the verses. Luke 8:13 is another.
They will suffer God's painful discipline in time and suffer loss of rewards in eternity.
i don't know what you mean by "not truly believers". Once a person believes in Christ for salvation, they are eternally saved.
Well, there you go. You didn't even try to show that I misunderstood them.
Actually, the Bible says it a bit differently. It's those who have received the gift of eternal life that shall never perish.
Are you aware of the difference between what you said and what I said?
In your statement, you give room for one who belongs to Jesus to somehow magically find themselves later on, for various reasons to no longer belong to Jesus.
But the Bible never says that. What is absolutely clear from John 10:28 is that recipients of eternal life shall never perish.
What this means is that those who have believed in Christ HAVE eternal life, per John 5:24 and 6:47, and reiterated by John in 1 John 5:11 and 13. So, from the moment that a person believes in Christ, Jesus says they shall never perish.
Please show me any conditions recipients of eternal life must fulfill in order to never perish in John 10:28.
You give conditions for recipients of eternal life must fulfill in order to never perish, but Jesus didn't.
Instead of your opinion, could you please provide actual Scripture that says what you opine?
Surely you know this is preposterous and absurd.
I recommend that you actually study the context of where that verse is found. The context is the 7 year Tribulation. So the verse ONLY applies to believers during the Tribulation. And you're going to have to prove beyond any doubt that "saved" in that verse specifically means "go to heaven". The Greek word, just like the English word, means to deliver or rescue from (some) danger. King David used the word many times in reference to his being delivered from his enemies by God. Nothing about soul salvation.
Too many people make the mistake of assuming that every use of "saved" means "go to heaven".
The first group are called Calvinists, and I reject it.
The second group are called Arminians, and I reject it.
What commentary did you learn that from? Or better, what verse clearly states this?
My views can be easily shown clearly from Scripture, so it's "according to the Bible", not according to me.
What I view as heresy is to claim that someone who has received eternal life can perish.
Yes, I caught that. But the Bible doesn't give you any excuse for such a view.
Jesus was clear: "I give them (believers) eternal life, and they shall never perish."
But your view is in direct opposition to the words of My Savior. How comfortable are you with that?
Well, you have taken off any pretense of biblical understanding and by your pejorative "hyper-grace" comment, you have admitted your opposition to God's plan for mankind, which is grace.
The truth is that there is no such thing as "too much grace", but your bias shows that you think there IS too much grace for those who you don't think should stay saved, for any reason.
Thankfully, God is in charge, and not you narrow minded legalists who demand that people earn their right into heaven.
You have no idea what grace is about, obviously.
Thanks for the insight into your mind.
