Silent Coup Warning

wing2000 · Feb 20, 2019

USincognito said:
Levin's histrionic hyperbole is laughable, but I'm not surprised that some folks eat it up.

Yep. Words apparently have no meaning any more.

Silverback · Feb 20, 2019

DaisyDay said:
Straw man.

Wait, what investigations are being conducted on the president? We know his campaign is being investigated and now his inaugural committee. He was mentioned as Individual 1 in one of the indictments of his underlings...And, of course, his defunct "charity" foundation is also under investigation in New York, but that's not him. Of course, now that we have a Democratic House, we may get an investigation into money-laundering via real estate, but probably not before 2020.

If he simply paid them, no, it would not be illegal, but we know he lied about it, a lot, and tried to cover his trail with fake corporations and false names and got other people to front the money which amounted to felony illegal campaign contributions and coverups. (Source: Vox- "What’s illegal about Trump’s hush payments to women, briefly explained" )

On the contrary, if you've been following the indictments, you'll have noticed that they are leading closer and closer. Roger Stone seems particularly close to the president and Russian collusion, sorry to say.

No, not everyone is corrupt anyway. And so much for the Great Swamp Drainer story, eh?

It's true no one cares, except perhaps Melanie and her young son, but this is about corruption, self-dealing and possibly mental decline to the point of incapacity (25thA and criminal defense).

Go Braves · Feb 20, 2019

Trump's not so silent coup of the country ought to be investigated. Praise the good Lord for McCabe.

USincognito · Feb 20, 2019

You might want to edit your quote tags.

Sparagmos · Feb 20, 2019

USincognito said:
When he gets amped up it reminds me of the aliens in Mars Attacks.

TOTALLY!

variant · Feb 20, 2019

Talking about the legal means to remove a president from power is now somehow an illegal coup?

EpiscipalMe · Feb 20, 2019

Mark Levin ^_^

TLK Valentine · Feb 21, 2019

USincognito said:
It's an opinion piece by Levin however they try and dress it up.

grasping the after wind · Feb 21, 2019

Sparagmos said:
Using the 25th amendment path to remove a president is 100% legal and constitutional, and does not involve force. That’s not a coup. Even the desire to record Trump demonstrates this, Rosenstein wanted evidence before acting.

Secretly recording the President in hopes of steering a conversation in such a way as to imply he is not capable of rational thought is not legal. Rosenstein is not one of the people tasked by the Amendment with making that determination and a difference in political opinion is not what constitutes irrationality.

TLK Valentine · Feb 21, 2019

grasping the after wind said:
Secretly recording the President in hopes of steering a conversation in such a way as to imply he is not capable of rational thought is not legal.

Cops wear wires and go undercover to catch criminals all the time.

Rosenstein is not one of the people tasked by the Amendment with making that determination and a difference in political opinion is not what constitutes irrationality.

As a Deputy Attorney General, he reports directly to one of the people who is tasked by the amendment... perhaps he was looking to impress his boss?

...or perhaps he was under orders?

SarahsKnight · Feb 21, 2019

USincognito said:
Levin's histrionic hyperbole is laughable, but I'm not surprised that some folks eat it up.

Oh, believe me, I found earlier this morning that my "usual suspect" Facebook friends are already up in arms about it.

grasping the after wind · Feb 21, 2019

TLK Valentine said:
Cops wear wires and go undercover to catch criminals all the time.

As a Deputy Attorney General, he reports directly to one of the people who is tasked by the amendment... perhaps he was looking to impress his boss?

...or perhaps he was under orders?

Perhaps the words warrant and probable cause and espionage had all slipped Rosenstein's mind.

TLK Valentine · Feb 21, 2019

grasping the after wind said:
Perhaps the words warrant and probable cause and espionage had all slipped Rosenstein's mind.

Donald's proved plenty of probable cause to question his mental state... and one doesn't need a warrant to wiretap oneself.

As for espionage, doesn't that usually imply a foreign government at work?

EpiscipalMe · Feb 21, 2019

Did Rosenstein wear a wire? Talking about it is not illegal. Doing it without proper authority would be illegal, but there is no evidence that this was done.

Much ado about nothing. Typical of Mark Levin’s rants.

TLK Valentine · Feb 21, 2019

EpiscipalMe said:
Did Rosenstein wear a wire? Talking about it is not illegal. Doing it without proper authority would be illegal, but there is no evidence that this was done.

Much ado about nothing. Typical of Mark Levin’s rants.

Indeed -- I believe Rosenstein's defense was that he was being sarcastic when he talked about it.

Isn't "he was only joking" the standard defense when some right-wing pundit drops an n-bomb or says something equally embarrassing?

Sparagmos · Feb 21, 2019

grasping the after wind said:
Secretly recording the President in hopes of steering a conversation in such a way as to imply he is not capable of rational thought is not legal. Rosenstein is not one of the people tasked by the Amendment with making that determination and a difference in political opinion is not what constitutes irrationality.

I didn’t claim recording trump would have been legal. I said that using the 25th amendment is a legal, constitutional method of removing a president and therefore not a coup. While recording the president may not have been legal, it certainly would not have constituted a coup either.

See the definition of coup:
the definition of coup d'état

Once again, Rosenstein’s desire to record the president demonstrates that there was no intent to fabricate anything against the president, but rather to catch or expose him.

NotreDame · Feb 21, 2019

Mountainmanbob said:
Conservative host Mark Levin claims 'silent coup' warning justified by McCabe, Rosenstein reports

I am skeptical that discussions to invoke a legally established procedure to have the VP serve as "Acting President" constitutes as an attempted coup. Words do have meaning, the meaning of words being indispensable to effective communication, and the meaning of coup is inapplicable to these facts.

NotreDame · Feb 21, 2019

Silverback said:
While that is true, there has to be a valid reason, being opposed to his policies, or, not liking him at a personal level does not reach that standard. All the investigations currently being conducted on the president will continue until the election is decided on 2020. In the end, I really believe the only thing that can be pinned on President Trump is that he paid to aging strippers, in order to secure a non disclosure agreement, which, BTW, are not illegal. The longer these investigations go on, the less likely they have anything on the President. Besides, Everyone in DC has criminal knowledge on each other, hidden off shore accounts, mistrisses, bribes, and the list goes on, and on. If the economy keeps booming, and unemployment/interest rates stay low, the President will be re-elected without much difficulty. Most people I have spoken to could care less about his affairs with the strippers a decade before he was elected to office.

Doesn't the 25th Amendment impose such a "valid reason"?

principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit...that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

cow451 · Feb 21, 2019

NotreDame said:
I am skeptical that discussions to invoke a legally established procedure to have the VP serve as "Acting President" constitutes as an attempted coup. Words do have meaning, the meaning of words being indispensable to effective communication, and the meaning of coup is inapplicable to these facts.

Do Trump’s words carry the same weight?

cow451 · Feb 21, 2019

NotreDame said:
Doesn't the 25th Amendment impose such a "valid reason"?

principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit...that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Which is why Rosey and company didn’t move forward. It’s a tall standard.

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Jesus Christ is this Knight's truth.

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