WHERE DOES IT SAY GOD'S SABBATH IS ABOLSIHED AND WE ARE COMMANDED TO KEEP SUNDAY AS A HOLY DAY?

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Well that is not true. You have been provided scripture throughout this thread you have provided none. At least your honest about your not providing any. If you have no scripture why not believe the scriptures provided?
You're entitled to your opinion.
 
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"DITTO" sounds different when you add the rest of the post back in that you leave out.
I'm sorry you feel this way. If you quit calling me a liar, I'll be willing to address more of your posts.
 
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As posted earlier, ignoring God's WORD does not make it dissappear. Only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it over the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God *ROMANS 3:4. It is JESUS that says all those who KNOWINGLY follow the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God are not following God brother not me *MATTHEW 15:3-9. Does this not worry you?
I'm not ignoring Scripture any more than you. You steadfastly refuse to show how any of my Scriptures are error. They refute your position without any words of explanation.

No Mt 15:3-9 dosen't worry me. BTW neither does your constant misuse of Rom 3:4 used to call me a liar.
 
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Then please by all means as I have posted to your friends that they cannot respond to; maybe you can tell me the answer to these question?

2. God's WORD says that the SABBATH was made on the SEVENTH DAY of the CREATION WEEK and is EVERY WEEK *GENESIS 2:1-3; EXODUS 20:8-11. While the NEW MOON was made on the 4th DAY of the CREATION WEEK *GENESIS 1:14-19 and is once a month. Now if the MOON was created on DAY 4 of the creation week and the SABBATH on day 7 how can the NEW MOON be the start of the SABBATH?
Genesis states that the sun and the moon were not created until day four, not just the moon. So obviously the creation week is a divine week and is not measured according to astronomical criteria.

If you try to emphasize that the mornings and evenings of Genesis are based on the sun rising and sun setting. Then you develop a paradox because the sun and the moon did not exist for the first few mornings and evenings.

God is separating the darkness from the light, life from the void, life from below, life from the dark emptiness.

God rested on the divine seventh day and not on an earthly Sabbath day. The Sabbath day was made for man and not for God.

The old creation had mornings and evenings, the new heaven and earth are timeless. Without days, or even mornings and evenings. Christ is the light of the new creation, a new creation in which we have an eternal rest. The old world, the old creation, the law, even humanity is on the brink of destruction.

The eighth day, the next day after that creation week, is the first day introducing the new creation. Behold all things are new in Christ.
A new spiritual creation, that is but not yet.
 
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It makes no difference which calendar they were under.The fact is there is no scripture which supports your theory that the weekly cycle changed as the months changed.

The fact also is that scripture and history shows the weekly cycle has been preserved throughout the generations of Israel.The week is the basis of the reckoning of time as created by God.(Genesis 1:31; 2:1-4; Mark 2:27).The month is the institution which is used to reckon the seasons(Genesis 1:14;Psalm 104:19)and will allow Israel to properly observe the yearly festivals/feasts.It has nothing to do with the weekly cycle.(See,Numbers 10:10;Leviticus 23.)
The new moon is a sabbath. The sabbath is the last day of the week in any calendar. To me that means -

___, ___, ___, ___, ____, __, Sat
Sun, Mon, Tue, Wed, Thur, Fri, Sat

Your reference to MK 2:27 is totally out of agreement with Deut 51:3 and Ex 31:13, 17.
 
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I'm not ignoring Scripture any more than you. You steadfastly refuse to show how any of my Scriptures are error. They refute your position without any words of explanation. No Mt 15:3-9 dosen't worry me. BTW neither does your constant misuse of Rom 3:4 used to call me a liar.

Sadly your post has no truth in it. Your posts have been addressed section by section and scripture by scripture showing the context you leave out of your interpretation of the scriptures. Yet you ignore these posts and do not respond to the scritpures in them that disagree with you. These are God's WORD not mine only sent in love as a help to you. If JESUS is knocking at the door it is up to us to let him in. Ignoring God's WORD does not make it dissappear as it will be our judge come judgment day *JOHN 12:47-48.
 
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My reference is to your personal accusatory statements about me and my posts.

Now brother that is not true. Please post where I have ever sent you personal accusatory statements about me and my posts? I have only posted God's WORD. The scriptures posted are for us all as they are Gods' WORD not mine. If they disagree with you then do not harden your heart to the scripture provided only in LOVE and as a help. God's WORD is for all of us not only you brother. They are provided for all (myself included). If you take them personally perhaps God is speaking to you.
 
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Not quite. The sabbath is a requirement besides the annual feasts for Israel and no one else according to the Book of the Law.

Not really brother. The weekly SABBATH is a requirement outside of the ANNUAL FEASTS as it is one of God's ETNERNAL LAWS (10 commandments)

God's 4th commandment.

EXODUS 20:8-11 [8], REMEMBER the SABBATH DAY, to KEEP IT HOLY. <Why?> [Because God made it Holy for mankind and commands us to keep it as a Holy day] [9], Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work: [10], But the SEVENTH DAY IS THE SABBATH of the LORD thy God [This is a direct reference from God's Word defining what the Sabbath is; The SABBATH = the SEVENTH DAY OF THE WEEK]: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: <WHY> [11], For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and RESTED THE SEVENTH DAY: wherefore the LORD BLESSED THE SABBATH, and MADE IT HOLY.

According to God's WORD in the NEW COVENANT God's ETERNAL LAW (10 commandments) is the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTEOUSNES *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172.

God's 4th commandment is one of God's 10 commandments that give us the KNOWLEDGE of what sin is when broken *ROMANS 3:20. According to God's WORD if we break any one of God's 10 Commandments we stand guilty before God of SIN *JAMES 2:10-11.

According to God's WORD all those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN *HEBREWS 10:26-27 because they reject the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23. OBEDIENCE to God's LAW is not how we are saved it is the FRUIT of God's work in us as we BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD. If our faith has no fruit it is dead *JAMES 2:18-20; 26 and our tree will be cast down and thrown into the fire *MATTHEW 3:10; 7:19-20; 13:49-50.

Sorry brother your only being warned in love. You mix up your Shadow laws with God's 10 Commandments. Besides God's 4th Commandment which is the SEVENTH DAY SABBATH written on stone, there were "SPECIAL" annual ceremonial Sabbath connected to the annual Jewish festivals in the OLD COVENANT written in the MOSAIC BOOK OF THE COVENANT.

Besides God's 4th Commandment which is the SEVENTH DAY SABBATH written on stone, there were "SPECIAL" annual ceremonial Sabbath connected to the annual Jewish festivals in the OLD COVENANT written in the MOSAIC BOOK OF THE COVENANT.

These ceremonial Sabbath were not God's 4th Commandment of the 10 Commandments but were connected to annual festivals and could fall on ANY DAY of the week depending on the yearly cycle (please read LEVITICUS 23;24-39).

These ceremonial "SPECIAL" Sabbath were connected to..

* Annual festival of The blowing of trumpet (Leviticus 23:24)
* Annual Day of Atonement (Leviticus 23:32)
* Annual Feast of tabernacles (Leviticus 23:39)

These "SPECIAL" Sabbath could fall on any day and were connected directly to these festivals that were prophetic in nature pointing to Jesus and God's plan of Salvation in the NEW COVENANT.

You have your Shadow laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT mixed up with God's ETERNAL LAW that give us a KNOWLEDGE of sin (Romans 3:20).

DETAILED SCRIPTURE SUPPORT COLOSSIANS 2 LINKING THE NEW TESTAMENT TO OLD

God's ISRAEL in the NEW COVENANT are all those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD. If we are not a part of God's ISRAEL then we have no part in the NEW COVENANT. Gentiles are now grafted in *ROMANS 11:13-27.

Sorry friend God's WORD disagrees with you.
 
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Thank you. Anything I say including Scripture is error IYO. So why post more to be called a liar about?

I have never called you a liar brother. If you have an interpretation of the scriptuers that is not true and you are provided God's WORD showing why this is not calling you a liar. Sorry brother but God's WORD does not teach lawlessness. If you have scripture to share for your belief then share it and let's discuss it. You are free to believe as you wish as this is between you and God come judgment day *JOHN 12:47-48. Now where is the scripture that says God's 4th commandment is now abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day? It is JESUS that says all those who knowingly follow the teachings and traditions of men are not following God not me *MATTHEW 15:3-9
 
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We can't violate something we're not subject to. We're also not desecrating the sabbath or the law. The law has no jurisdiction. Gal 3:19, Rom 7:6, etc. Yes there are more.

Sorry brother God's WORD does not teach lawlessness. According to God's WORD in the NEW COVENANT God's ETERNAL LAW (10 commandments) is the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTEOUSNES *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172.

God's 4th commandment is one of God's 10 commandments that give us the KNOWLEDGE of what sin is when broken *ROMANS 3:20. According to God's WORD if we break any one of God's 10 Commandments we stand guilty before God of SIN *JAMES 2:10-11.

According to God's WORD all those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN *HEBREWS 10:26-27 because they reject the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23. OBEDIENCE to God's LAW is not how we are saved it is the FRUIT of God's work in us as we BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD. If our faith has no fruit it is dead *JAMES 2:18-20; 26 and our tree will be cast down and thrown into the fire *MATTHEW 3:10; 7:19-20; 13:49-50.

It is JESUS that says all those who KNOWINGLY follow the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God are not following God brother not me *MATTHEW 15:3-9. Who then do we BELIEVE and FOLLOW God or men *ROMANS 3:4. Yep I know who I believe. You provide your own words. My words are not my own but God's WORD. It is the Word of God that will be our judge come judgment day *JOHN 12:47-48.

Now where is the scripture that says God’s 4th Commandment has now been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day? There is no scripture is there? If there is no scriprture for this tradition why do you not believe God’s WORD?
 
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You exclude it in talking about the same list of holy days in Col 2:16-17. You claim only the annual days are part of Col:16, you call shadows. If you call the annual holy days shadows, so is the weekly sabbath, called sabbaths because of their frequency resulting in a large number annually. Again this is the same list found in Lev 23.

Well that is not true brother. I have already discussed LEVITICUS 23:1-3 in post # 825 here linked. It is God's 4th commandment SEVENTH DAY weekly SABBATH and it not a Shadow law from the MOSIAC book of the OLD COVENANT.

God's 4th Commandments *EXODUS 20:8-11 is one of God's ETERNAL LAWS (10 commandments) that give us the KNOWLEDGE of what SIN is when broken *ROMANS 3:20. God's 4th commandment SEVENTH DAY weekly SABBATH has it's origin in creation BEFORE SIN entered the world as a part of the FINISHED work of creation BEFORE SIN entered the world and mankind was in perfect harmony with GOD and there was no need for a plan of salvation so it is impossible for God's 4th commandment to be a SHADOW law from the MOSIAC BOOK of the OLD COVENANT *EXODUS 24:7 when there was no SIN and no COVENANT.

All the ANNUAL special sabbaths connected to FEAST DAY however all only pointed to JESUS and God's plan of salvation after SIN entered the world and the BOOK of the OLD COVENANT was made and given by MOSES. These are not God's ETERNAL LAW and have been fulfilled in Christ.

These annual special sabbaths can fall on any day of the week and are only used in the the annual Jewish festivals of Feasts of Trumpets (Lev 23:24) or Day of Atonement (Lev 23:32 or Feast of Booths (Lev 23:39).

1. THE ANNUAL SHADOW FEAST SABBATHS <PLURAL> from the SHADOW laws of Moses *EXODUS 24:7 are special annual ceremonial sabbaths that could fall on any day of the week depending on the yearly cycle.

The Hebrew Word for these sabbaths is H7677 שׁבּתון shabbâthôn shab-baw-thone' is From H7676; and means a sabbatism or SPECIAL HOLIDAY: - rest, sabbath.

These sabbaths can fall on any day of the week
and is only used in the annual Jewish festivals of Feasts of Trumpets (Lev 23:24) or Day of Atonement (Lev 23:32 or Feast of Booths (Lev 23:39). These feasts are NOT fulfilled and Shadows of things to come Col 2 v17 (e.g. 2nd coming, close of probation and judgement and God's people saved from their temporary dwelling on earth to the earth made new) NOTE: Col v17, Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. It is NOT fulfilled and has NOT finished and IS to COME. These are temporary Shadow Sabbaths showing God's plan of salvation.

2. GOD'S 4th COMMANDMENT WEEKLY SABBATH which is one of the 10 commandments (Exodus 20:8-11). The Hebrew word use here for Sabbath has a DIFFERENT Hebrew word used compared to the ceremonial Sabbath of H7677. The Hebrew Word used here is H7676 and means H7676 שַׁבָּת shabbath (shab-bawth') n-e.1. intermission, a period of temporary rest.2. (specifically) the Sabbath, the seventh day being the day of rest. [intensive from H7673]KJV: (+ every) sabbath. Root(s): H7673. The root word comes from H7673 which comes from the creation week of Genesis 2:1-3 and means shabath (shaw-ɓath') v.to repose, i.e. to cease from exertion. KJV: (cause to, let, make to) cease, celebrate, cause (make) to fail, keep (sabbath), suffer to be lacking, leave, put away (down), (make to) rest, rid, still, take away.

God's Sabbath is a memorial of creation and part of a FINISHED WORK BEFORE SIN entered the WORLD. If it is part of a FINISHED work BEFORE SIN then it cannot be a SHADOW law of the plan of salvation because it was BEFORE the fall of mankind. Just like all the other 10 commandments God's Word says they are FOREVER and the very standard of SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS and the JUDGEMENT to come.

The Law of God (10 commandments) which includes the 4th commandment is the work of God (Exodus 32:16) whatsoever God says is FOREVER nothing can be added to it or taken away (Ecclesiastes 3:14).

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CONCLUSION: The Hebrew calander
(NEW MOONS etc) according to God's WORD was for signs and seasons *GENESIS 1:14-19. This was important under the OLD COVENANT as the NEW MOONS timed the ANNUAL FEASTS of LEVITICUS 23. This does not effect God's SEVENTH DAY SABBATH of the 4th commandment which is simply once a week, every SEVENTH DAY. Your getting the sabbaths in the ANNUAL FEAST days and NEW MOONS mixed up with God's WEEKLY SEVENTH DAY SABBATH of Gods 4th Commandment which is every SEVENTH DAY of the WEEK. You do not need a luna calander to determine this as it is every SEVENTH DAY of the week.

Hope this helps
 
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And you call this list shadow laws. Col 2:17 says the weekly sabbaths are shadows.The 7th day of the week followed 6 days of work. The day is marked by light and darkness. This is done on a regular basis by the rotation of the earth. So many of these days make what we call a year. So many of these days are required in a year to mark the annual holy days including the weekly sabbath. If you have no weekly sabbath you can't mark the holy days. Pentecost is 7 of those days plus 1 day after Passover. No sabbaths means no marking of time.

Well this post has no truth in it brother. Let's see why from God's WORD. PAUL in COLOSSIANS 2 is talking about the SHADOW laws in CIRCUMCISION and BAPTISM v11-13 then the MOSIAC SHADOW laws in ORDINANCES v14. So the CONTEXT of the chapter is the MOSAIC BOOK of the OLD COVENANT that point to JESUS and God's plan of salvation in the NEW COVENANT. Now v16 PAUL is referening the OLD TESTAMENT scriptures to do with the SHADOW laws in FEAST days.

COLOSSIANS 2:16 [16] Let no man therefore judge you in MEAT, or in DRINK, or in respect of an HOLYDAY [FEASTIVALS], or of the NEW MOON, or of the SABBATH DAYS <plural>:

PAUL is quoting from the OLD TESTAMENT scriptures here..

EZEKIEL 45:17 [17] And it shall be the prince's part to give BURNT OFFERINGS, and MEAT OFFERINGS, and DRINK OFFERINGS, in the FEASTS, and in the NEW MOONS, and in the SABBATHS, in all solemnities of the house of Israel: he shall prepare the sin offering, and the meat offering, and the burnt offering, and the peace offerings, to make reconciliation for the house of Israel.

NUMBERS 28 [9] And on the Sabbath day two lambs of the first year without spot, and two tenth deals of flour for a MEAT OFFERING, mingled with oil, and the DRINK OFFERING thereof: [10] This is the burnt offering of EVERY SABBATH, beside the continual BURN'T OFFERING, and his DRINK OFFERING.

ISAIAH 1:10-14 [10] Hear the word of the LORD, ye rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrah.[11] To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I AM FULL OF THE BURNT OFFERINGS of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.[12] When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts?[13] BRING NO MORE VAIN OBLATIONS; incense is an abomination unto me; THE NEW MOONS AND SABBATHS, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting.[14] Your NEW MOONS and your APPOINTED FEASTS my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.

LEVITICUS 23:4 [4] These are THE FEASTS OF THE LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons. [5] In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is THE LORD'S PASSOVER. [6] And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the Lord: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread…… [13] And the MEAT OFFERING thereof shall be two tenth deals of fine flour mingled with oil, an offering made by fire unto the Lord for a sweet savour: and the DRINK OFFERING thereof shall be of wine, the fourth part of an hin.

HOSEA 2:11 [11], I will also cause all her mirth to CEASE, HER [ISRAEL'S] FEAST DAYS, her NEW MOONS, and HER SABBATHS, and all HER [ISRAELS] SOLEMN FEASTS.

wait for it back to the NEW...

HEBREWS 9:1-12 [1] Then verily THE FIRST COVENANT HAD ALSO ORDINANCES of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.... [9] WHICH WAS A FIGURE for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;[10] WHICH STOOD ONLY IN MEATS AND DRINKS, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.[12] NEITHER BY THE BLOOD OF GOATS AND CALVES, BUT BY HIS OWN BLOOD he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.

HEBREWS 10:1-9
[1], FOR THE LAW HAVING A SHADOW OF GOOD THINGS TO COME, AND NOT THE VERY IMAGE OF THE THINGS, CAN NEVER WITH THOSE SACRIFICES which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
[2], For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
[3], But in those SACRIFICES there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.
[4], For it is not possible that THE BLOOD OF BULLS AND GOATS should take away sins.
[5], Why when he comes into the world, he said, SACRIFICES AND OFFERINGS YOU WOULD NOT BUT A BODY YOU HAVE PREPARED FOR ME:
[6], IN BURN'T OFFERINGS AND SACRIFICES FOR SIN YOU HAVE HAD NO PLEASURE.
[7], Then said I, See, I come in the VOLUME OF THE BOOK IT IS WRITTEN OF ME, to do your will, O God.
[8], Above when he said, SACRIFICES AND OFFERINGS AND BURNT OFFERINGS AND OFFERINGS FOR SIN YOU WOULD NOT, neither had pleasure therein; WHICH ARE OFFERED BY THE LAW;
[9], Then said he, See, I come to do your will, O God. He takes away the first, that he may establish the second.

NOTE; the LAW in reference here is NOT God's 10 Commandments but the law of sin offereings from the SHADOW laws of the MOSAIC BOOK of the LAW *DEUTERONOMY 31:24-26 from the OLD COVENANT *EXODUS 24:7 (Please look at the attached scriptures)

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CONCLUSION
; The CEREMONIAL ORDINANCE of CIRCUMCISION is a Shadow law from the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT pointing to a NEW HEART to LOVE and OBEY GOD in the NEW COVENANT. The SHADOW laws of the CEREMONIAL ORDINANCES of CIRCUMCISION from the Mosaic BOOK of the Covenant are the within CHAPTER CONTEXT BEFORE COL 2:14
Colossians 2 is not a reference to God's ETERNAL LAW (10 Commandments) that give us a knowledge of what SIN is when broken. They are a reference to the SHADOW laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the OLD COVENANT *EXODUS 24:7 that point to JESUS and God's plan of salvation in the NEW COVENANT.

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The weekly SABBATH is a requirement outside of the ANNUAL FEASTS as it is one of God's ETNERNAL LAWS (10 commandments)

God's 4th commandment.

EXODUS 20:8-11 [8], REMEMBER the SABBATH DAY, to KEEP IT HOLY. <Why?> [Because God made it Holy for mankind and commands us to keep it as a Holy day] [9], Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work: [10], But the SEVENTH DAY IS THE SABBATH of the LORD thy God [This is a direct reference from God's Word defining what the Sabbath is; The SABBATH = the SEVENTH DAY OF THE WEEK]: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: <WHY> [11], For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and RESTED THE SEVENTH DAY: wherefore the LORD BLESSED THE SABBATH, and MADE IT HOLY.

According to God's WORD in the NEW COVENANT God's ETERNAL LAW (10 commandments) is the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTEOUSNES *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172.

God's 4th commandment is one of God's 10 commandments that give us the KNOWLEDGE of what sin is when broken *ROMANS 3:20. According to God's WORD if we break any one of God's 10 Commandments we stand guilty before God of SIN *JAMES 2:10-11.

According to God's WORD all those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN *HEBREWS 10:26-27 because they reject the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23. OBEDIENCE to God's LAW is not how we are saved it is the FRUIT of God's work in us as we BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD. If our faith has no fruit it is dead *JAMES 2:18-20; 26 and our tree will be cast down and thrown into the fire *MATTHEW 3:10; 7:19-20; 13:49-50.

Sorry brother your only being warned in love. You mix up your Shadow laws with God's 10 Commandments. Besides God's 4th Commandment which is the SEVENTH DAY SABBATH written on stone, there were "SPECIAL" annual ceremonial Sabbath connected to the annual Jewish festivals in the OLD COVENANT written in the MOSAIC BOOK OF THE COVENANT.

Besides God's 4th Commandment which is the SEVENTH DAY SABBATH written on stone, there were "SPECIAL" annual ceremonial Sabbath connected to the annual Jewish festivals in the OLD COVENANT written in the MOSAIC BOOK OF THE COVENANT.

These ceremonial Sabbath were not God's 4th Commandment of the 10 Commandments but were connected to annual festivals and could fall on ANY DAY of the week depending on the yearly cycle (please read LEVITICUS 23;24-39).

These ceremonial "SPECIAL" Sabbath were connected to..

* Annual festival of The blowing of trumpet (Leviticus 23:24)
* Annual Day of Atonement (Leviticus 23:32)
* Annual Feast of tabernacles (Leviticus 23:39)

These "SPECIAL" Sabbath could fall on any day and were connected directly to these festivals that were prophetic in nature pointing to Jesus and God's plan of Salvation in the NEW COVENANT.

You have your Shadow laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT mixed up with God's ETERNAL LAW that give us a KNOWLEDGE of sin (Romans 3:20).

DETAILED SCRIPTURE SUPPORT COLOSSIANS 2 LINKING THE NEW TESTAMENT TO OLD

Sorry friend God's WORD disagrees with you.
 
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With out the weekly cycle there's no monthly cycle which is a collective of weekly cycles.

The monthly cycle is based on the NEW MOONS. It only effects the number of days in the year and month as the seven day week is a continual cycle it is remains the same.
 
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Genesis states that the sun and the moon were not created until day four, not just the moon. So obviously the creation week is a divine week and is not measured according to astronomical criteria.
The evenings and the mornings is God measurement of time from God's WORD.
If you try to emphasize that the mornings and evenings of Genesis are based on the sun rising and sun setting. Then you develop a paradox because the sun and the moon did not exist for the first few mornings and evenings.
The evening and the morning is God's measurement of a day and there are seven days in the creation of the week according to God's WORD. It is God alone that knows the timing of the SEVEN DAY CREATION WEEK. God's WORD says that there are SEVEN DAYS for the creation WEEK. God's WORD is written for mankind so that we can understand it. Even though the first three morning did not have the Sun and the Moon is irelavant to this conversation because they were made on the 4th DAY of CREATION therefore providing a time CONTEXT to the first three days of the creation week and the second 4 days of the creation week showing a SEVEN DAY CREATION WEEK. This shows the false teaching of a NEW MOON SEVENTH DAY SABBATH as the MOON and the SUN were created on the 4th day of the creation week and God's SEVENTH DAY WEEKLY Sabbath was created on the SEVENTH DAY of creation. Do the math.
God rested on the divine seventh day and not on an earthly Sabbath day. The Sabbath day was made for man and not for God.
You are confused brother, GENESIS 2:1-3 shows the ORIGIN of the SEVENTH DAY SABBATH which was made for mankind that GOD BLESSED, SET APART from the other days of the WEEK and made a HOLY DAY. God's WORD defines the SEVENTH DAY of the week as God's SABBATH *EXODUS 20:10 BUT THE SEVENTH DAY IS THE SABBATH OF THE LORD YOUR GOD. EXODUS 20:11 is a direct reference back to GENESIS 2:3; For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: why the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and made it Holy.
The old creation had mornings and evenings, the new heaven and earth are timeless. Without days, or even mornings and evenings. Christ is the light of the new creation, a new creation in which we have an eternal rest. The old world, the old creation, the law, even humanity is on the brink of destruction.
The eighth day, the next day after that creation week, is the first day introducing the new creation. Behold all things are new in Christ. A new spiritual creation, that is but not yet.
There is no 8th day of creation there is only SEVEN DAYS IN A WEEK brother where are your scriptures?
 
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The new moon is a sabbath. The sabbath is the last day of the week in any calendar. To me that means -

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Sun, Mon, Tue, Wed, Thur, Fri, Sat

Well that is not true brother. Both God's WORD and JEWISH resources all disagree with you.

SCRIPTURE

God's SABBATH according to God's WORD is the SEVENTH DAY of the WEEK *GENESIS 2:1-3; EXODUS 20:8-11. End of story. Only God's WORD is true and we should beleve and follow it *ROMANS 3:4. The NEW MOON brings in a NEW MONTH and does not RE-SET the WEEK which is a 7 day continual weekly cycle. A NEW MOON can fall on any day of the week depending on the yearly cycle.

Please brother by all means prove what you are claiming which is that EVERY SABBATH is a NEW MOON and EVERY NEW MOON resets the days of the week? You cannot can you.

God's WORD says that the SABBATH is the SEVENTH DAY of the WEEK *GENESIS 2:1-3; EXODUS 20:8-11. While the NEW MOON is once a month. The MOON was created on DAY 4 of the creation week and the SABBATH on day 7. Do the math.

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REFERENCES OUTSIDE OF GOD'S WORD.

*Luna Sabbath false teaching here click me; and here click me; and here click me; and here click me.

*Biblical Sabbath here click me (wiki)

* Hebrew Luna Calander and NEW MOON cycles from Wiki; Judaism 101 and Israel Scrience and Technology and elsewhere that all disagree with you.

So in essence your saying that all of Israel who have been keeping the SEVENTH DAY weekly Sabbath for 1000's of years have it wrong?

Only sent in love brother and only as a help.
 
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But the new moon(s) are monthly, and were talking mainly about the weekly Sabbath,

And the scriptures you quoted say or I think are talking about and end to the new moons "and" Sabbaths in general, and many of the scriptures you quoted do say "and", or "new moons so we can do this, "and" Sabbath's so we will we will be free to do that", ect...

Talking, I think about being free from the letter of the law and all the traditions associated with it, ect....

Anyway, back to subject...

Of course the months are not the same, but are the days and the weeks...?

Oh, and, does the new moon(s) monthly have anything to do with that eighth day Sabbath at the end of the month, monthly maybe...? (I ask cause I honestly don't know)...?

God Bless!
All days are accounted for. For instance if the lunar month ends on what we call Monday and the next lunar month starts on what we call Saturday, there aren't 5 days missing. The last day of the lunar month and the first day of the next lunar month are consecutive days. They just appear on the calendar differently. What is trying to be said is the lunar month is like what is imposed on the solar calendar. That's not true.

The first lunar month on our solar calendar in Jan 2018 is Jan 16. That would be called the first day of the lunar month. By Nov it moves to Nov 7. It's still the first day of the lunar month.
 
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All days are accounted for. For instance if the lunar month ends on what we call Monday and the next lunar month starts on what we call Saturday, there aren't 5 days missing. The last day of the lunar month and the first day of the next lunar month are consecutive days. They just appear on the calendar differently. What is trying to be said is the lunar month is like what is imposed on the solar calendar. That's not true. The first lunar month on our solar calendar in Jan 2018 is Jan 16. That would be called the first day of the lunar month. By Nov it moves to Nov 7. It's still the first day of the lunar month.

How do you reconcile this post with what you posted earlier when you state that God's SEVENTH DAY SABBATH is EVERY FULL MOON?
 
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Well that is not true brother. Both God's WORD and JEWISH resources all disagree with you.

SCRIPTURE

God's SABBATH according to God's WORD is the SEVENTH DAY of the WEEK *GENESIS 2:1-3; EXODUS 20:8-11. End of story. Only God's WORD is true and we should beleve and follow it *ROMANS 3:4. The NEW MOON brings in a NEW MONTH and does not RE-SET the WEEK which is a 7 day continual weekly cycle. A NEW MOON can fall on any day of the week depending on the yearly cycle.

Please brother by all means prove what you are claiming which is that EVERY SABBATH is a NEW MOON and EVERY NEW MOON resets the days of the week? You cannot can you.

God's WORD says that the SABBATH is the SEVENTH DAY of the WEEK *GENESIS 2:1-3; EXODUS 20:8-11. While the NEW MOON is once a month. The MOON was created on DAY 4 of the creation week and the SABBATH on day 7. Do the math.

.........

REFERENCES OUTSIDE OF GOD'S WORD.

*Luna Sabbath false teaching here click me; and here click me; and here click me; and here click me.

*Biblical Sabbath here click me (wiki)

* Hebrew Luna Calander and NEW MOON cycles from Wiki; Judaism 101 and Israel Scrience and Technology and elsewhere that all disagree with you.

So in essence your saying that all of Israel who have been keeping the SEVENTH DAY weekly Sabbath for 1000's of years have it wrong?

Only sent in love brother and only as a help.
Jewish festivals are a 7/8 day affair marked by a sabbath at the beginning and the end. They have 2 sabbaths, not 3.
 
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Jewish festivals are a 7/8 day affair marked by a sabbath at the beginning and the end. They have 2 sabbaths, not 3.

Go do some more research brother that is not true. The ANNUAL FEAST DAYS have different number of days allocated depending on what FEAST it is.

The dates and days are not constant because of the yearly cycles and NEW MOONS that determine the starting dates of the ANNUAL FEAST days. It is these dates that can fall on any day of the week deopending on the yearly cycle and these change from year to year. Only God's 4th Commandment Sabbath has a constant weekly cycle which is every SEVENTH day of the week (Friday sunset to Saturday sunset our calander). Here is an example of the last few years of how the dates change showing that the feasts can fall on any day of the week depending on the yearly cycles.

Year 2017-2018
Jewish Year 5778

Shabbat Weekly Sabbath from Friday sunset to Saturday night
Rosh Hashanah Wed-Fri, Sept. 20-22, 2017
Yom Kippur Fri-Sat, Sept. 29-30, 2017
Sukkot Wed-Wed, Oct. 4-11, 2017
Shemini Atzeret / Simchat Torah Wed-Fri, Oct. 11-13, 2017
Hanukkah Tue-Wed, Dec. 12-20, 2017
Purim Wed, Feb 28 - Thu, March 1, 2018
Passover* Fri, March 30 - Sat, April 7, 2018
Shavuot Sat-Mon, May 19-21, 2018

Year 2018-2019
Jewish Year 5779

Shabbat Weekly Sabbath from Friday sunset to Saturday night
Rosh Hashanah Sun-Tue, Sept. 9-11, 2018
Yom Kippur Tue-Wed, Sept. 18-19, 2018
Sukkot Sun-Sun, Sept. 23-30, 2018
Shemini Atzeret / Simchat Torah Sun, Sept. 30 - Tue, Oct. 2, 2018
Hanukkah Sun, Dec. 2 - Mon, Dec.10, 2018
Purim Wed-Thurs, March 20-21, 2019
Passover* Fri, April 19 - Sat, April 27, 2019
Shavuot Sat-Mon, June 8-10, 2019

* Source; University of Massachusetts

As can be seen above ONLY God's SEVENTH DAY SABBATH is a CONSTANT date because it is the SEVENTH DAY OF the WEEK which is a continual 7 day weekly cycle that is not effected by the NEW MOONS and days in the year.

Hope this helps
 
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