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If your concerned about them being misled also I would state that belief is nothing without the fact of the Risen Lord, (dead buried and risen from the dead) because it is the foundation from which His Spirit is sent forth. Without that it isn’t Christianity. Therefore you cannot be a part of it and for that reason also cannot be a part of fellowship with them. I would stay focused on the subject of Christ and never deviate from it. This is the same advise I would give to someone who wants to debate with other cults devoid of Christ in His rightful place. Preferably I would want to go with #4 from that point if not from the beginning. Blocking first would be the safest thing tho and then take Christ’s side for any further confrontations. In everything trust Christ to see you thru.
 
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Yeah, that's not a good study group; or at least their doctrine isn't. Anyone who denies the resurrection of Christ has, in the forceful words of Paul, a useless faith. 1 Corinthians 15:12-19
 
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1 John 4:1-6

Test the Spirits

1Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already. 4Little children, you are from God and have overcome them, for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. 5They are from the world; therefore they speak from the world, and the world listens to them. 6We are from God. Whoever knows God listens to us; whoever is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of error.

I think the fact you feel unable to tell your parents about this group you joined is in itself a red flag.

I'm pretty sure the original sin was disobeying God by eating from the tree.

As far as the flood I sometimes struggle with believing the whole world was flooded, but my interpretation of the following passage is that in the end times people will be deniers of the flood.

2 Peter 3:1-7
The Day of the Lord Will Come

1This is now the second letter that I am writing to you, beloved. In both of them I am stirring up your sincere mind by way of reminder, 2that you should remember the predictions of the holy prophets and the commandment of the Lord and Savior through your apostles, 3knowing this first of all, that scoffers will come in the last days with scoffing, following their own sinful desires. 4They will say, “Where is the promise of his coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things are continuing as they were from the beginning of creation.” 5For they deliberately overlook this fact, that the heavens existed long ago, and the earth was formed out of water and through water by the word of God, 6and that by means of these the world that then existed was deluged with water and perished. 7But by the same word the heavens and earth that now exist are stored up for fire, being kept until the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.


However, as far as the world flood goes, this is pure speculation on my part. But recently they have discovered a crater in Greenland called the Hiawatha crater, and although this crater was much smaller than the one that wiped out the dinosaurs, it was also much much more recent.

City-size impact crater found under Greenland ice

Also, very recently, a new research study came out about the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs, claiming that the asteroid would have caused worldwide tsunamis, with some waves reaching up to a mile high.

Dinosaur-Killing Asteroid Triggered A Mile-High Tsunami Across The Globe
 
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I am a college freshman. I was approached by a really nice student a few months ago who was conducting a survey about how different Christians interpreted the Bible. She invited me to attend her Bible study, and I did.

Their purpose in this Bible study is to not focus as much on what each denomination says about the Bible, but instead of assuming or speculating, only interpret the Bible for what it says. We analyze scripture and compare verses in one part of the Bible to another, drawing parallels about recurring parables (like how anytime the Bible mentions weapons and tools, it is talking about the Word, and how anytime animals are mentioned, they represent people/humanity).

My Christian faith is not as strong as I want it to be. I've grown up in a very Baptist family, with very strong beliefs about particular interpretations. These beliefs are so strong that I am often left believing in certain things just because my family believes, as opposed to knowing why they believe. This has caused me to question a lot of things and struggle with maintaining a strong relationship with God as I've gotten older. Because of this, finding a Bible study that finally showed me concrete evidence of what the Bible really means was truly a relief for me.

Weeks and months went by, and I'd attend a Bible study each week. Each lesson became more difficult for me to believe, and yet there was evidence in the Bible (at least according to how it is interpreted). We began by talking about how every Old Testament prophecy was fulfilled already (even the ones often interpreted by many Christians to be prophecies for after the New Testament), such as the prophecy that the Lord will come to Earth with fire...because fire isn't real fire, but instead the Word. This means that when Jesus returns to Earth again, he will not come in an apocalyptic way, but instead through the teachings of his Word. Ehh, maybe. Then as the Bible studies passed, the interpretations were more and more controversial. The Flood wasn't not a worldwide flood, but instead only in that region (the volume of water on the Earth today could not cover the whole surface that it would cover the highest mountains, but would mathematically cover that whole region; records of ancient Chinese civilizations from that time period hold no history of a flood; it is not fair to the people living in other parts of the world that were not introduced to the Word of God, were kangaroos on the ark, too? etc.). This made sense, so I went with it. Next, we talked about how the first sin, leading to the Fall, is sexual, not the consumption of actual fruit (tree of life = Adam, tree of knowledge of good and evil = Eve, eating the fruit = having sex, that is why they were ashamed of being naked, that is why Eve/women experience pains in childbirth = she became pregnant with Cain from this, and he created murder). This also made sense, because we found scriptures across the Bible that referred to Adam, and mankind, as being a "tree of life". Then we talked about how the Trinity is actually three separate beings, and the Holy Spirit is a female, mother figure (wisdom/Holy Spirit referred to as a "she", Creation story says "create mankind in OUR image, Holy Spirit is referred to with words like "wonderful counselor", "comforter", etc.).

These go against a lot of the teachings that I am used to. While I am hesitant to believe some of them, because I am so rooted in the Baptist faith, I shouldn't turn a blind eye to other interpretations and assume that everything about my faith is 100% correct. I have not mentioned the specific teachings to my parents, because their undying Baptist beliefs will immediately cause them to shut off my explanations and say it's wrong (I already tried to tell the Flood story to my dad, without saying where I heard it from, and he said no way), so I feel like they would be biased. (That's why I am posting here).

Yesterday, my Bible study friends invited me to go to church with them. Turns out, it's a house church where they and a group of friends go and watch a recording of a church service in Korea. The preacher's photos were on the walls of the room, and the service only sang songs that the man had written himself. (He, and my Bible study friends, believe that you are to be the bride of God. In the Old Testament, you are his servant, in the New Testament, you are his child, and in the Completed Testament/modern-day, you are his bride. Not sexually, but with how much you love him, and he loves humanity...Adam and Eve were created for this purpose, but their sin caused them to Fall from their higher rank all the way to the servant-level. So this preacher wrote his own songs to talk about being God's bride instead of his child, which are what other Christian songs are about.) The church members sing about/pray to the Holy Trinity (okay, so God's Trinity).

This preacher's message talked about how the Resurrection of Jesus in the Bible was not a physical resurrection, but spiritual. Any encounters people had with Jesus after his death was through dreams and visions, and that there is historical evidence that Jesus's body was discovered, labeled Jesus of Nazareth, along with Mary, Joseph, and Martha (10 in total). This I do not fully understand, because what about the tomb being empty? What about the holes in his hands and in his side? Did the disciples only see him and touch him in dreams and visions (supposedly why he was able to get in the room when the doors were locked, because he was in spiritual form).

Another thing that confused me was how much they seemed to focus on the preacher himself. They celebrated him and his works (building a monument/temple from rocks, healing people...they said he healed people, not God through his prayers...etc.), because they were celebrating the 1-year anniversary since he made it out of prison (10-year sentence from being prosecuted for his beliefs). He talks about how God has shared these new beliefs/interpretations to him as he fasts, and he first discovered God when he was young and starving with his family in the woods, and that he was chosen by God to lead this new Christian movement. The way that these people looked up to him so much...it was concerning. It was as if they were putting him up too high on a pedestal that he should not be on. (He's still a person, no matter if God has chosen him or not. That's the point of God choosing people in the Bible--Abraham, David, Paul, Peter, etc.--they are still people who make mistakes.

After the service, I went home and researched his church. It is called Providence, led and founded by Jung Myung-seok (About Pastor Jung Myung Seok). I quickly found many websites (practically all of my search results) calling his church a cult. I even watched a 20-minute video where people who used to be a part of Providence are telling their stories about how their faith was ruined, and that he did not go to prison for religious persecution, but instead sexual assault and rape. It said that he recruits beautiful women through secular organizations and Bible studies, and he would have them send him letters and their photos in prison, which he posted on his walls and stroke them. They would also pray to photos of him and Jesus side-by-side.

I am hesitant to believe everything the Internet tells me, because people lie, and if he was truly persecuted for his faith, and people are afraid of change, so it would make sense that they would try to find/create dirt on him, but I don't want to ignore these claims, either. While the Bible studies make sense, they are a drastic change to my Baptist beliefs. Slap on top of that, and I do not think I am a strong enough Christian to be able to tell what is right and wrong when it comes to interpreting the Bible properly. I just want to strengthen my faith, but I am torn. If this is a cult, I want out. But these were my first (and only, really) college friends, and they are so kind and love God so much. It is difficult to believe that they are just recruiting me for their cult, but that is the whole point of cults...you fool people into joining them.

What should I do? Should I back out now? Should I just ghost my friends, or tell them I'm not coming back? (If I tell them I'm not coming back, should I tell them why?) Should I try to talk to my parents anyway, despite their bias? Should I keep going to Bible study and just ask more questions to try and figure out which is true? (Do I have the spiritual capacity to do such a thing?) Should I confront my friends about being a cult?

I know this is super-long, but I really appreciate you reading it! I am really struggling here.
Doctrine doesn't save us but it can confuse us and cause us to stray. In this case, I don't see this group (I am familiar with them) as a cult, but I do see them as heretics. Jesus physically raised from the dead, he ate food, Thomas touched him... and yet that is all spiritual? It doesn't work that way. I would respectfully back away... find a more mainstream type church for now until you can put yourself back together, and then reach out and try to find where you think you belong.
 
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Another thing that confused me was how much they seemed to focus on the preacher himself.

This would be a red flag.

I'd say stick to your Baptist roots. There are groups that try to turn the bible into a fully metaphorical book, but there is no reason to do so.
 
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They are very friendly, and I really care about them.

See how friendly they are to you after you tell them you're done with their Bible study.
 
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To gain distance and space you could go with the really busy this week with study idea at first then just get more and more distant. if they push you on it tell them it's a cult and though they are nice people you want nothing to do with it so won't be able to hang out with them anymore. if they push it then block them.

Them not believing in the physical resurrection of Jesus is a big problem a huge problem actually let alone all the other strange beliefs they have that you mentioned.

do you have a normal church you can go to so you get some normal Bible study?

it would be ok to talk to your parents about it.
they can support you too in standing strong against going back to the group.
 
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This would be a red flag.

I'd say stick to your Baptist roots. There are groups that try to turn the bible into a fully metaphorical book, but there is no reason to do so.
That is well said. There are metaphors and there are literal things, but when we make it all abstract, we can make the bible say anything we want it to.

I remember some things about their leader now. He got caught up in a series of sex abuse charges which resulted in him fleeing his country and living as a fugitive. He was finally caught, extradited and tried where he was found guilty and spent 10 years in jail, just getting out last year. He was raised in a group that saw their leader as the second coming of Christ and if I am not mistaken, he has claimed he was messiah AND often uses "Joshua" as his name, which of course is the common English rendering for Yehoshua, which would have been Jesus' name in Hebrew (Yeshua is Aramaic). THIS is a pretty interesting read about him.

@Sara50840 You might read the above paragraph and the linked article. I am not trying to pile on, just wanted to share a little more for your consideration. Be blessed.
 
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If your description is accurate, I’d say these folks are not Christian. And as a liberal Christian, that’s not the kind of judgement I’m quick to make.

For me the key is the distinction between the NT and the Completed Testament. You’re looking at a group that has gone beyond Christianity to a new Testament of their own.

The key seems to be is the distinction between bride and son. On its own, the metaphor of bride might be OK. It’s used in the Bible, although it’s normally used of Israel and the Church, not individual Christians. But when you oppose it to the concept of son, you’re in dangerous territory. Jesus called himself the Son. Furthermore, the NT sees our relationship with God as being because we’re Christ’s brothers and sisters. That is, he extends his sonship to his people, because we are in him. It sounds to me like their Completed Testament is bypassing that. And even if it’s not, the whole concept of a third step beyond the NT is inherently a problem.

I would avoid getting into Bible studies. The danger is that there are lots of passages in the Bible, and lots of interpretations. Some of theirs are not new to them. That the flood was local is quite reasonable. That the fall was sexual I’m pretty sure is wrong, but others have held that view, and it’s not always a problem. The problem is the overall pattern. And in this kind of Bible study you don’t see it. You’re going along a path with little idea where it’s leading, but they’ve got an agenda, a pattern that is driving their interpretation.

I know of no evidence that anyone found Jesus’ body. And I’m pretty sure I would know about it; I read a variety of viewpoints on Christianity. You’re right about Jesus coming through doors. It wasn’t just his original body alive again. Paul speaks of a transformed body, and says that those who are alive at the end will be changed into a body like that. It’s still in some sense a body, but different. Paul’s term is translated “spiritual body,” but possibly “transformed body” is better.

Yes, the focus on their preacher is a bad sign, but it’s consistent with the completed testament. I’d bet he is the source of that completed testament, or perhaps his teacher is.

I would avoid the group. I’d particularly avoid getting into discussions about Biblical interpretation with them, for reasons I explained above.
 
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As far as telling your friends you think it's a cult, I don't think I'd use that word. It would put them on the defensive. Simply tell them you're not interested in continuing the study and don't get bogged down in why, or they'll keep the discussion going until they hook you back in. As someone else suggested, see if they want to remain friends after you're not part of the study group anymore. Maybe so, maybe not.
 
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I am a college freshman. I was approached by a really nice student a few months ago who was conducting a survey about how different Christians interpreted the Bible. She invited me to attend her Bible study, and I did.

Their purpose in this Bible study is to not focus as much on what each denomination says about the Bible, but instead of assuming or speculating, only interpret the Bible for what it says. We analyze scripture and compare verses in one part of the Bible to another, drawing parallels about recurring parables (like how anytime the Bible mentions weapons and tools, it is talking about the Word, and how anytime animals are mentioned, they represent people/humanity).

My Christian faith is not as strong as I want it to be. I've grown up in a very Baptist family, with very strong beliefs about particular interpretations. These beliefs are so strong that I am often left believing in certain things just because my family believes, as opposed to knowing why they believe. This has caused me to question a lot of things and struggle with maintaining a strong relationship with God as I've gotten older. Because of this, finding a Bible study that finally showed me concrete evidence of what the Bible really means was truly a relief for me.

Weeks and months went by, and I'd attend a Bible study each week. Each lesson became more difficult for me to believe, and yet there was evidence in the Bible (at least according to how it is interpreted). We began by talking about how every Old Testament prophecy was fulfilled already (even the ones often interpreted by many Christians to be prophecies for after the New Testament), such as the prophecy that the Lord will come to Earth with fire...because fire isn't real fire, but instead the Word. This means that when Jesus returns to Earth again, he will not come in an apocalyptic way, but instead through the teachings of his Word. Ehh, maybe. Then as the Bible studies passed, the interpretations were more and more controversial. The Flood wasn't not a worldwide flood, but instead only in that region (the volume of water on the Earth today could not cover the whole surface that it would cover the highest mountains, but would mathematically cover that whole region; records of ancient Chinese civilizations from that time period hold no history of a flood; it is not fair to the people living in other parts of the world that were not introduced to the Word of God, were kangaroos on the ark, too? etc.). This made sense, so I went with it. Next, we talked about how the first sin, leading to the Fall, is sexual, not the consumption of actual fruit (tree of life = Adam, tree of knowledge of good and evil = Eve, eating the fruit = having sex, that is why they were ashamed of being naked, that is why Eve/women experience pains in childbirth = she became pregnant with Cain from this, and he created murder). This also made sense, because we found scriptures across the Bible that referred to Adam, and mankind, as being a "tree of life". Then we talked about how the Trinity is actually three separate beings, and the Holy Spirit is a female, mother figure (wisdom/Holy Spirit referred to as a "she", Creation story says "create mankind in OUR image, Holy Spirit is referred to with words like "wonderful counselor", "comforter", etc.).

These go against a lot of the teachings that I am used to. While I am hesitant to believe some of them, because I am so rooted in the Baptist faith, I shouldn't turn a blind eye to other interpretations and assume that everything about my faith is 100% correct. I have not mentioned the specific teachings to my parents, because their undying Baptist beliefs will immediately cause them to shut off my explanations and say it's wrong (I already tried to tell the Flood story to my dad, without saying where I heard it from, and he said no way), so I feel like they would be biased. (That's why I am posting here).

Yesterday, my Bible study friends invited me to go to church with them. Turns out, it's a house church where they and a group of friends go and watch a recording of a church service in Korea. The preacher's photos were on the walls of the room, and the service only sang songs that the man had written himself. (He, and my Bible study friends, believe that you are to be the bride of God. In the Old Testament, you are his servant, in the New Testament, you are his child, and in the Completed Testament/modern-day, you are his bride. Not sexually, but with how much you love him, and he loves humanity...Adam and Eve were created for this purpose, but their sin caused them to Fall from their higher rank all the way to the servant-level. So this preacher wrote his own songs to talk about being God's bride instead of his child, which are what other Christian songs are about.) The church members sing about/pray to the Holy Trinity (okay, so God's Trinity).

This preacher's message talked about how the Resurrection of Jesus in the Bible was not a physical resurrection, but spiritual. Any encounters people had with Jesus after his death was through dreams and visions, and that there is historical evidence that Jesus's body was discovered, labeled Jesus of Nazareth, along with Mary, Joseph, and Martha (10 in total). This I do not fully understand, because what about the tomb being empty? What about the holes in his hands and in his side? Did the disciples only see him and touch him in dreams and visions (supposedly why he was able to get in the room when the doors were locked, because he was in spiritual form).

Another thing that confused me was how much they seemed to focus on the preacher himself. They celebrated him and his works (building a monument/temple from rocks, healing people...they said he healed people, not God through his prayers...etc.), because they were celebrating the 1-year anniversary since he made it out of prison (10-year sentence from being prosecuted for his beliefs). He talks about how God has shared these new beliefs/interpretations to him as he fasts, and he first discovered God when he was young and starving with his family in the woods, and that he was chosen by God to lead this new Christian movement. The way that these people looked up to him so much...it was concerning. It was as if they were putting him up too high on a pedestal that he should not be on. (He's still a person, no matter if God has chosen him or not. That's the point of God choosing people in the Bible--Abraham, David, Paul, Peter, etc.--they are still people who make mistakes.

After the service, I went home and researched his church. It is called Providence, led and founded by Jung Myung-seok (About Pastor Jung Myung Seok). I quickly found many websites (practically all of my search results) calling his church a cult. I even watched a 20-minute video where people who used to be a part of Providence are telling their stories about how their faith was ruined, and that he did not go to prison for religious persecution, but instead sexual assault and rape. It said that he recruits beautiful women through secular organizations and Bible studies, and he would have them send him letters and their photos in prison, which he posted on his walls and stroke them. They would also pray to photos of him and Jesus side-by-side.

I am hesitant to believe everything the Internet tells me, because people lie, and if he was truly persecuted for his faith, and people are afraid of change, so it would make sense that they would try to find/create dirt on him, but I don't want to ignore these claims, either. While the Bible studies make sense, they are a drastic change to my Baptist beliefs. Slap on top of that, and I do not think I am a strong enough Christian to be able to tell what is right and wrong when it comes to interpreting the Bible properly. I just want to strengthen my faith, but I am torn. If this is a cult, I want out. But these were my first (and only, really) college friends, and they are so kind and love God so much. It is difficult to believe that they are just recruiting me for their cult, but that is the whole point of cults...you fool people into joining them.

What should I do? Should I back out now? Should I just ghost my friends, or tell them I'm not coming back? (If I tell them I'm not coming back, should I tell them why?) Should I try to talk to my parents anyway, despite their bias? Should I keep going to Bible study and just ask more questions to try and figure out which is true? (Do I have the spiritual capacity to do such a thing?) Should I confront my friends about being a cult?

I know this is super-long, but I really appreciate you reading it! I am really struggling here.

The fact you have posted this, asking advice is a clear indication that you are concerned and something isn't sitting right. I believe God has put these feelings in your heart.

Furthermore, from what you have shared, I believe this group constitutes a cult and I advise you to get away from it and not look back.
 
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Then we talked about how the Trinity is actually three separate beings, and the Holy Spirit is a female, mother figure (wisdom/Holy Spirit referred to as a "she", Creation story says "create mankind in OUR image, Holy Spirit is referred to with words like "wonderful counselor", "comforter", etc.).
This goes against main stream Christianity. I would leave asap!
 
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THIS is a pretty interesting read about him.

I would tell them you are too busy to continue on, and send them the link Ken Rank provided. Since you are now armed with this information, they will be unable to persuade you to continue participating.

The reason I vote in favor of providing this information is because you may save them a lot of heartache in the future. At least they will have the information.

Recovering from cultic abuse is a lifelong process, and the abuse is very damaging.
 
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The bottom line is, that if this is true, "animals" are made in the "image of God" and/or that man is an "animal", and therefore God is an "animal" if man is made in His image?

That's why i asked what they are basing the quote above, on.

All humans are animals. Scientifically speaking.

Anyway, yup that is a cult. Leave
 
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Tell them that I am no longer going to attend the group, giving a reason like I am too busy, or I am taking time to myself to reflect with God.
I'll be praying for you that you have peace in what you plan on doing....but, as of right now, this is the answer that seems best to me (but it's what YOU believe is best). I think I'd wait until one of them contacted me - I wouldn't be the first one to reach out. The only problem with contacting them (or even allowing contact) is - it may open the door to discussion like a few people have said. And....being in the "recruiting position".....I would suspect, as La Bella already posted, they have been trained to already have answers to reel you back in. If I were you - I wouldn't allow them to engage me any further in discussion. You can just say, "I really don't wish to talk about it - I know I need to spend some time alone with God reflecting on things".
Pretty much, I am not sure if they have been brainwashed, or they are the brainwasher. Should it be any of my business to try and look out for them, or should I just focus on getting myself out of the situation and not worry about them?
That's thoughtful of you - but when a person is brainwashed - or deluded - they've already been trained to reject the truth and to only trust what this leader says (and engaging them in a discussion about it may confuse YOU even more).

As it's written in the Psalms - in a matter like this, "all human help is useless." (Psalm 108:12). Remember King Saul? He was convinced that David was out to get him - and nothing could convince him otherwise. All you can do is pray for them, I don't really like saying.
 
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I am a college freshman. I was approached by a really nice student a few months ago who was conducting a survey about how different Christians interpreted the Bible. She invited me to attend her Bible study, and I did.

Their purpose in this Bible study is to not focus as much on what each denomination says about the Bible, but instead of assuming or speculating, only interpret the Bible for what it says. We analyze scripture and compare verses in one part of the Bible to another, drawing parallels about recurring parables (like how anytime the Bible mentions weapons and tools, it is talking about the Word, and how anytime animals are mentioned, they represent people/humanity).

My Christian faith is not as strong as I want it to be. I've grown up in a very Baptist family, with very strong beliefs about particular interpretations. These beliefs are so strong that I am often left believing in certain things just because my family believes, as opposed to knowing why they believe. This has caused me to question a lot of things and struggle with maintaining a strong relationship with God as I've gotten older. Because of this, finding a Bible study that finally showed me concrete evidence of what the Bible really means was truly a relief for me.

Weeks and months went by, and I'd attend a Bible study each week. Each lesson became more difficult for me to believe, and yet there was evidence in the Bible (at least according to how it is interpreted). We began by talking about how every Old Testament prophecy was fulfilled already (even the ones often interpreted by many Christians to be prophecies for after the New Testament), such as the prophecy that the Lord will come to Earth with fire...because fire isn't real fire, but instead the Word. This means that when Jesus returns to Earth again, he will not come in an apocalyptic way, but instead through the teachings of his Word. Ehh, maybe. Then as the Bible studies passed, the interpretations were more and more controversial. The Flood wasn't not a worldwide flood, but instead only in that region (the volume of water on the Earth today could not cover the whole surface that it would cover the highest mountains, but would mathematically cover that whole region; records of ancient Chinese civilizations from that time period hold no history of a flood; it is not fair to the people living in other parts of the world that were not introduced to the Word of God, were kangaroos on the ark, too? etc.). This made sense, so I went with it. Next, we talked about how the first sin, leading to the Fall, is sexual, not the consumption of actual fruit (tree of life = Adam, tree of knowledge of good and evil = Eve, eating the fruit = having sex, that is why they were ashamed of being naked, that is why Eve/women experience pains in childbirth = she became pregnant with Cain from this, and he created murder). This also made sense, because we found scriptures across the Bible that referred to Adam, and mankind, as being a "tree of life". Then we talked about how the Trinity is actually three separate beings, and the Holy Spirit is a female, mother figure (wisdom/Holy Spirit referred to as a "she", Creation story says "create mankind in OUR image, Holy Spirit is referred to with words like "wonderful counselor", "comforter", etc.).

These go against a lot of the teachings that I am used to. While I am hesitant to believe some of them, because I am so rooted in the Baptist faith, I shouldn't turn a blind eye to other interpretations and assume that everything about my faith is 100% correct. I have not mentioned the specific teachings to my parents, because their undying Baptist beliefs will immediately cause them to shut off my explanations and say it's wrong (I already tried to tell the Flood story to my dad, without saying where I heard it from, and he said no way), so I feel like they would be biased. (That's why I am posting here).

Yesterday, my Bible study friends invited me to go to church with them. Turns out, it's a house church where they and a group of friends go and watch a recording of a church service in Korea. The preacher's photos were on the walls of the room, and the service only sang songs that the man had written himself. (He, and my Bible study friends, believe that you are to be the bride of God. In the Old Testament, you are his servant, in the New Testament, you are his child, and in the Completed Testament/modern-day, you are his bride. Not sexually, but with how much you love him, and he loves humanity...Adam and Eve were created for this purpose, but their sin caused them to Fall from their higher rank all the way to the servant-level. So this preacher wrote his own songs to talk about being God's bride instead of his child, which are what other Christian songs are about.) The church members sing about/pray to the Holy Trinity (okay, so God's Trinity).

This preacher's message talked about how the Resurrection of Jesus in the Bible was not a physical resurrection, but spiritual. Any encounters people had with Jesus after his death was through dreams and visions, and that there is historical evidence that Jesus's body was discovered, labeled Jesus of Nazareth, along with Mary, Joseph, and Martha (10 in total). This I do not fully understand, because what about the tomb being empty? What about the holes in his hands and in his side? Did the disciples only see him and touch him in dreams and visions (supposedly why he was able to get in the room when the doors were locked, because he was in spiritual form).

Another thing that confused me was how much they seemed to focus on the preacher himself. They celebrated him and his works (building a monument/temple from rocks, healing people...they said he healed people, not God through his prayers...etc.), because they were celebrating the 1-year anniversary since he made it out of prison (10-year sentence from being prosecuted for his beliefs). He talks about how God has shared these new beliefs/interpretations to him as he fasts, and he first discovered God when he was young and starving with his family in the woods, and that he was chosen by God to lead this new Christian movement. The way that these people looked up to him so much...it was concerning. It was as if they were putting him up too high on a pedestal that he should not be on. (He's still a person, no matter if God has chosen him or not. That's the point of God choosing people in the Bible--Abraham, David, Paul, Peter, etc.--they are still people who make mistakes.

After the service, I went home and researched his church. It is called Providence, led and founded by Jung Myung-seok (About Pastor Jung Myung Seok). I quickly found many websites (practically all of my search results) calling his church a cult. I even watched a 20-minute video where people who used to be a part of Providence are telling their stories about how their faith was ruined, and that he did not go to prison for religious persecution, but instead sexual assault and rape. It said that he recruits beautiful women through secular organizations and Bible studies, and he would have them send him letters and their photos in prison, which he posted on his walls and stroke them. They would also pray to photos of him and Jesus side-by-side.

I am hesitant to believe everything the Internet tells me, because people lie, and if he was truly persecuted for his faith, and people are afraid of change, so it would make sense that they would try to find/create dirt on him, but I don't want to ignore these claims, either. While the Bible studies make sense, they are a drastic change to my Baptist beliefs. Slap on top of that, and I do not think I am a strong enough Christian to be able to tell what is right and wrong when it comes to interpreting the Bible properly. I just want to strengthen my faith, but I am torn. If this is a cult, I want out. But these were my first (and only, really) college friends, and they are so kind and love God so much. It is difficult to believe that they are just recruiting me for their cult, but that is the whole point of cults...you fool people into joining them.

What should I do? Should I back out now? Should I just ghost my friends, or tell them I'm not coming back? (If I tell them I'm not coming back, should I tell them why?) Should I try to talk to my parents anyway, despite their bias? Should I keep going to Bible study and just ask more questions to try and figure out which is true? (Do I have the spiritual capacity to do such a thing?) Should I confront my friends about being a cult?

I know this is super-long, but I really appreciate you reading it! I am really struggling here.

Hi Sara! :) Nice to meet you, daughter.

So, I'm afraid I have to agree with some of the other posts I saw here, and..... yeah.... you have met some wonderful, lovely, friendly, endearing...... crazy people.

I'm sorry, but they are nutz. The fruit Eve ate.... was not sex. The 'tree of life' was not the human race. The world wide flood, was a world wide flood. Do not assume that the mountains that exist today, existed before the flood. We don't know that. And Jesus Christ came back from the dead, in physical bodily form... and that nut job that created this church, was a nut job.

So, I would be thankful for the friendship... cherish the time you had with these love-able like-able, friendly happy joy joy crazy people... but you need to bid them goodbye.

Pray that G-d will help guide you to like-able love-able friendly happy joy joy.... sane people. :holy:
 
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I'm sorry, but they are nutz. The fruit Eve ate.... was not sex.
In one article I read about this cult, the progression of that belief leads to having sex with this self-professed "Messiah" in order to "purify" yourself (of course, this is only the women that need purifying). I suspect that's what led to his prison sentence.
 
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