For those who do not think we are close to the end....

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But for most, this is not the case at all, is it? They are content that their sins are smaller, lesser ones than those in the world, and because of a one time prayer, all is well with their soul. They have been healed, but only slightly, and the world, instead of being drawn to us by the love we have for the Lord and for one another, see us as religious hypocrites. But how hard it is for us to admit such a thing.

I don't believe random exhortations are profitable. If you were given a specific word for the members of the site that's one thing. But if this is not the case and its delivered with generalizations it will fall on deaf ears. I think encouragement goes a long way and many Christians are parched. They're continually told what's amiss, where they fail, and a litany of wrongs. Who could labor under that?

I would like to see a thread that encourages for once.
 
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People have been saying that a shaking is coming since Christianity began.

Look at all the wars throughout history. The mass killings, murders etc etc. The vile and evil ways of humans have been covering the earth since time immorial.

Go back to Auschwitz and i bet the people there thought it was the end of the world! Or when Nero was persecuting the Christians, or other Emperors.

Sickening things have always gone hand in hand with humanity.

Telling people that a shaking is a coming is old news Gideons300. Many people have been saying the same things for hundreds of years.

What 'proof' have you got, my dear friend, that it is coming soon?
 
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In the news this morning, it was reported that a law in Fort Collins, Colorado, banning topless women in public, was unconstitutional, based upon the fact that men could do so. The argument was that this was sexual discrimination.

Pandora's box has been opened, and there is no closing it. The sexualizarion of our society just went from bad to worse.... far worse.

As we see the signs of the times unfoling right before our eyes, with good being called evil and evil proclaimed as good, should we continue our Sunday-go-to-meeting Christianity that empowers no one to walk in victroy over the world, the flesh and the devil, or begin to seek God as to how to actually find the secret of walking as real overcomers.

We have become bushel basket Christians, touting our bushel basket as THE way, competing for malnourished and hungey sheep We feed them programs, luxury church buildings and the latest laser-lighted worship techniques to induce shallow, emotional responses to tickle their ears, their eyes and their desire to be entertained.

Guys, a shaking is coming and when it is all over, our church model will fail, utterly and completely. Why? It feeds our carnal fleshly nature rather than teaches the saints of God how to put it in the grave and to put on who they truly are, new creatures in Christ.

And if you see this happening and are longing for change, for the abilty to walk in the Free Indeed that Jesus promised us. but you do not know how, seek Hid face as to the answer. He has one and once you see it, and receive it, you will never be the same.

Onward and upwards!

blessings,

Gids
According to Matthew 25, the final exam questions at our judgment do not mention filling out our apocalyptic charts properly.

All I need to know is that at some point, Jesus will summon my soul: either at the Parousia or the hour of my death. The latter is more likely.

As far as sound and light shows and other forms of "liturtainment", the pre-Reformation chruches of the East don't have these practices.
 
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People have been saying that a shaking is coming since Christianity began.

Look at all the wars throughout history. The mass killings, murders etc etc. The vile and evil ways of humans have been covering the earth since time immorial.

Go back to Auschwitz and i bet the people there thought it was the end of the world! Or when Nero was persecuting the Christians, or other Emperors.

Sickening things have always gone hand in hand with humanity.

Telling people that a shaking is a coming is old news Gideons300. Many people have been saying the same things for hundreds of years.

What 'proof' have you got, my dear friend, that it us coming soon?
Here is something to think on. For every single one of us thirty years old or more, chances are that within fifty years, the end is coming. We ALL will live to see the end of US. Are we living like that is a fact, running our race as if there is but one prize and we are determined to be the one who will win it? Or, are we content to receive our participation medals, thinking that starting our race and finishing it are the same thing?

If we are living with our will in charge, when we are told clearly by the Word that if we try to save our lives, we will lose them, do we desire to be different, freed from our enslaving sins and self love? Or, are we quite content to live on for us, and to only rely on His forgiveness, yet with no heart to actually seek Him AND His righteousness to be manifested in our lives? Onecpath leads to life, the other to destruction.

Sadly, we have been convinced by the enemy that to live for God is to live miserably, and to live for us is supreme happiness. And we have bought the lie, hook, line and sinker. That is all coming to an end, and when we are awakened, we will be amazed at how wonderful abiding in Him really is.

blessings, dear friend

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In the news this morning, it was reported that a law in Fort Collins, Colorado, banning topless women in public, was unconstitutional, based upon the fact that men could do so. The argument was that this was sexual discrimination.

Pandora's box has been opened, and there is no closing it. The sexualizarion of our society just went from bad to worse.... far worse.

As we see the signs of the times unfoling right before our eyes, with good being called evil and evil proclaimed as good, should we continue our Sunday-go-to-meeting Christianity that empowers no one to walk in victroy over the world, the flesh and the devil, or begin to seek God as to how to actually find the secret of walking as real overcomers.

We have become bushel basket Christians, touting our bushel basket as THE way, competing for malnourished and hungey sheep We feed them programs, luxury church buildings and the latest laser-lighted worship techniques to induce shallow, emotional responses to tickle their ears, their eyes and their desire to be entertained.

Guys, a shaking is coming and when it is all over, our church model will fail, utterly and completely. Why? It feeds our carnal fleshly nature rather than teaches the saints of God how to put it in the grave and to put on who they truly are, new creatures in Christ.

And if you see this happening and are longing for change, for the abilty to walk in the Free Indeed that Jesus promised us. but you do not know how, seek Hid face as to the answer. He has one and once you see it, and receive it, you will never be the same.

Onward and upwards!

blessings,

Gids

Seems more like desexualization to me.
 
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Sadly, and I mean no disresepct, these answers typify the opinions of the vast majority of Christians.

The dark black coulds are gwthering on the horizon, willful sin still resides in the hearts of most of His children, self atill rules the roost, and yet all is well with our souls.

May God awawken us before it is too late.

blessings,

Gideon
Amen. Among those who say they believe, apathy is a common stronghold. The world's overall culture in this day does not care. In the last days, there will be scoffers. And many will say, "Where is His coming?...He delays His coming..." Jesus warned of this. It's in red letters.

Continuing to pray.
 
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How about we are to avert our gaze regardless? Any man knows what's out there. It's our responsibility as men who seek to follow after Christ to follow the example and rule he set for us.

I don't want a bunch of public nudity from anyone (not a prude; just don't like seeing what's private paraded all around), but if it's going to be there because of this court decision, then our orders have not changed. Treat it like "Monsteritis" (thrall of advertising) from a famous Simpsons story:


Just don't look! Just don't look!
 
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In the news this morning, it was reported that a law in Fort Collins, Colorado, banning topless women in public, was unconstitutional, based upon the fact that men could do so. The argument was that this was sexual discrimination.

Pandora's box has been opened, and there is no closing it. The sexualizarion of our society just went from bad to worse.... far worse.

As we see the signs of the times unfoling right before our eyes, with good being called evil and evil proclaimed as good, should we continue our Sunday-go-to-meeting Christianity that empowers no one to walk in victroy over the world, the flesh and the devil, or begin to seek God as to how to actually find the secret of walking as real overcomers.

We have become bushel basket Christians, touting our bushel basket as THE way, competing for malnourished and hungey sheep We feed them programs, luxury church buildings and the latest laser-lighted worship techniques to induce shallow, emotional responses to tickle their ears, their eyes and their desire to be entertained.

Guys, a shaking is coming and when it is all over, our church model will fail, utterly and completely. Why? It feeds our carnal fleshly nature rather than teaches the saints of God how to put it in the grave and to put on who they truly are, new creatures in Christ.

And if you see this happening and are longing for change, for the abilty to walk in the Free Indeed that Jesus promised us. but you do not know how, seek Hid face as to the answer. He has one and once you see it, and receive it, you will never be the same.

Onward and upwards!

blessings,

Gids

I like your description of "bushel-basket Christians." I agree with you that much of American Christianity is shallow. Perhaps, the reason is that pastors are scared to preach challenging messages for fear that they will lose people. But as to your end-times idea, I don't know when Jesus is coming back and leave it to him to decide. Every generation has had some signs of the end-time. I think that the Book of Revelation points in that direction. However, evil will get much greater approaching his coming. Perhaps, he is coming soon because of the example you mention and many other ones we can share of evil becoming much more public.
 
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How about we are to avert our gaze regardless? Any man knows what's out there. It's our responsibility as men who seek to follow after Christ to follow the example and rule he set for us.

I don't want a bunch of public nudity from anyone (not a prude; just don't like seeing what's private paraded all around), but if it's going to be there because of this court decision, then our orders have not changed. Treat it like "Monsteritis" (thrall of advertising) from a famous Simpsons story:


Just don't look! Just don't look!
Our society already revolves around sex. Church people are not exempt, from advertising to tv shows. That is like telling a drug addict to avoid partaking when they start passing out free Oxy's on every corner to help society find purpose. LOL.

Did you read that fully one third of born again men have serious inappropriate content issues? Simply avert their eyes?
I was a serious inappropriate content addict for decades and the only advice I got from church was 1) pray 2) read the Bible 3) go to church 4) trust God. That was before accountability partners came into.... and out of.... vogue.

If we as Christians were walking in victory, as we are promised, and our shields of faith were quenching every single arrow satan launched at us, averting our eyes would be a piece of cake. The problem is, the church as we know it is not walking there but is compromised with the world we are supposed to walk in but not be a part OF.

So where is the root of the problem? It is that we are still walking in the old man that we were, and do not believe the clear promise of God that He will cause us to will AND to do of His good pleasure.
God is even now awakening His own to the exceeding greatness of His power to usward who believe, and when He does, and we see what God is actually offering us, abiding in Him where we do not fulfill the lusts of the fles, we will be amazed that we were satisfied with religious husks that set no one free.

Blessings,

Gideon
 
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Sex has ALWAYS been a big issues with us humans.
And that is the excuse we are going to try to get God to buy? LOL

"The woman you gave to me, it is HER fault! Come to think of it, it must be YOUR fault!"

If we were crying out for an answer, fine. But if we are simply going on sinning, and saying we are only human, as if that excuses it, we are about to be disappointed.

blessings,

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7+billion people facing eternity..... unprepared, and with the clock of eternity ticking.

So basically, in your mind there's not a soul on this planet that's prepared?

Labella, I am not seeking woeful commiseration at all.

Really? lol..

I am simply pointing to the truth as to our state, and that we as a whole are woefully unprepared spiritually to endure it.

Maybe you should look in the mirror more.

Lots of times the Spirit is speaking to me and my state and not to others so much when I hear Him. It's good therefore, to make sure the Spirit isn't speaking to something inside yourself before you speak it..

So perhaps before you declare every living soul on earth unsaved and unprepared for Jesus, look in the mirror and remove the log from your eye first.

Just a thought.
 
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And that is the excuse we are going to try to get God to buy? LOL

"The woman you gave to me, it is HER fault! Come to think of it, it must be YOUR fault!"

If we were crying out for an answer, fine. But if we are simply going on sinning, and saying we are only human, as if that excuses it, we are about to be disappointed.

blessings,

Gideon

Man and Woman have always had this issue though. A chemistry that is so volatile
 
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Our society already revolves around sex. Church people are not exempt, from advertising to tv shows. That is like telling a drug addict to avoid partaking when they start passing out free Oxy's on every corner to help society find purpose. LOL.

Did you read that fully one third of born again men have serious inappropriate content issues? Simply avert their eyes?
I was a serious inappropriate content addict for decades and the only advice I got from church was 1) pray 2) read the Bible 3) go to church 4) trust God. That was before accountability partners came into.... and out of.... vogue.

If we as Christians were walking in victory, as we are promised, and our shields of faith were quenching every single arrow satan launched at us, averting our eyes would be a piece of cake. The problem is, the church as we know it is not walking there but is compromised with the world we are supposed to walk in but not be a part OF.

So where is the root of the problem? It is that we are still walking in the old man that we were, and do not believe the clear promise of God that He will cause us to will AND to do of His good pleasure.
God is even now awakening His own to the exceeding greatness of His power to usward who believe, and when He does, and we see what God is actually offering us, abiding in Him where we do not fulfill the lusts of the fles, we will be amazed that we were satisfied with religious husks that set no one free.

Blessings,

Gideon

My friend Gideon, I hope you will not take this too harshly, but it is hard not to read things like "Simply avert your eyes?" in a dismissive fashion, which is not appropriate to say of a command given by our Lord.

The command is as simple as it is difficult, and nothing that our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ has commanded is outdated -- certainly not because born again men (or whoever; those are just the ones you picked in your reply) can't seem to bring themselves to stop watching inappropriate contentography.

In my Church anyway, we do not have such a thing as "accountability partners" or other western fads such that it is possible that they go out of style. We have the timeless advice of the scriptures that all things are permissible but not all things edify, and the words of the ancient and modern desert fathers which counsel against the irresponsible use of our bodies and minds. Abba Lazarus El Anthony from Australia, the modern anchorite who lives in the cave of St. Anthony in the Egyptian desert, put it best in a video I saw a few years ago aimed at young people struggling with this issue because of the internet. Very simply, to the best of my recollection he said: "You can go anywhere, you can do anything, but remember: you will die." A sobering warning, but never untrue. We will all die and face judgment. We need to keep that in mind in whatever we do, keeping in mind also the medicine we are given from the Divine Physician of our souls and bodies in the form confession and direction from our spiritual fathers, the support of our brothers and sisters (who obviously don't need to know any specifics from us regarding our sins, but can still help in praying with us and for us in a similar manner to the concept of 'accountability partners', I'm sure), and most of all the holy body and blood of Christ. "The holies are for the holy!", yes, as is proclaimed in our liturgy, but also for those who are becoming holy (all of us), the grace and peace of the Lord Jesus Christ is manifest in us through the struggle and its positive conclusion when the man or woman puts away the habits of the flesh and begins to truly put on Christ. The mastery of the passions is no small thing and Lord knows I am not there, but the ascetic struggle is one to jump into with a full heart and with both hands armed with faith that the Lord will not abandon us when we come to Him in prayer and supplication. Remember St. Paul in his letter to the Romans and his despairing of "this body of death" he lived in. That is the human condition, then and now. Christ says we can do better and be better, and gives us the way to do so. It is our job to follow Him, even as the demons call to us on all sides of the path.

In the Orthodox Church (and the Catholic Church, and many of the older Protestant churches), anyway, we have the examples of those who have successfully run the race in the saints, who conquered their own demons. And so we pray together with Abba John the Short "Lord, send me enemies -- and strength for the fight!" That's what this is. The war of man against himself. Some win it and become saints. Some lose it and become something else. In no case is it an accident. It is a matter of strength, which God has in abundance and desires to give to all of His people. But we must take it of our own desire to live as He wants us to. That is indeed where the struggle lies.

In the famous book The Gulag Archipelago, celebrated Russian writer Alexander Solzhenitsyn observes that the line between good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. Let us pick one side and stay on it, and let it be the good one no matter how heard it is to not jump back and forth whenever we feel pulled to do so. Fight! Fight like your life depends on it, because (not be too dramatic, but) it does!
 
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Geez...first legalized pot, and now this! When they said pot was a 'gateway drug', I thought they meant 'a gateway to other drugs', not 'a gateway to the anti-Christ's arrival'! They should've put that in those "Pot funds terrorism" ad campaigns from a few years ago. "Pot funds terrorism...oh yeah, and it will make the anti-Christ come. Seriously." I'm not a user, but I would be petitioning for its re-illegalization if I knew that!
 
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Lots of times the Spirit is speaking to me and my state and not to others so much when I hear Him. It's good therefore, to make sure the Spirit isn't speaking to something inside yourself before you speak it...

This. :)
 
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So basically, in your mind there's not a soul on this planet that's prepared?



Really? lol..



Maybe you should look in the mirror more.

Lots of times the Spirit is speaking to me and my state and not to others so much when I hear Him. It's good therefore, to make sure the Spirit isn't speaking to something inside yourself before you speak it..

So perhaps before you declare every living soul on earth unsaved and unprepared for Jesus, look in the mirror and remove the log from your eye first.

Just a thought.
I am not saying every single person. Hower, rhe way is narrow and most are ill prepared. We as believers are supposed to have the answer they need that helps them get the devil off their back. And when we can actually testify that it works for us, perhaps more will listen. Right now, the church is looked at as a bunch of hypocrites who do not live what they say they believe.

God said this.... The heathen will know that He is the Lord when He shall be sanctified IN US before their very eyes. They are still waiting, ever simce the early rain ended in the book of Acts. But another downpour is approaching on the horizon, and it will be a doozy.

blessings,

Gideon
 
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Man and Woman have always had this issue though. A chemistry that is so volatile
So that promise God gave us where He tells us that He will not allow us to be tempted above our ability to resist is simply not applicable to this situation? Either His promises work or He is a liar and we are all deceived. And if we agree He is not a liar, and we still are not finding them workimg for us in our struggles, should we not be found beseeching Him day and night to fulfill them for us?

To rest content that it is impossible because we do not see it any other way is to call God a liar, and our God cannot lie. it is a sheer impossiblity. When we get desperate enough to find, and walk in, the FREE INDEED Jesus promised, the one where He tells is the freedom He is referring to is the freedom from committing sin, we are going to be blown away at what He can do when He is allowed to be the potter.

"For the eyes of the Lord run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to shew himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him."

2 Chronicles 16:9

Blessings, dear brother

Gideon
 
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