Truths of the New Testament

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How do you know that I have none of Jacob's DNA?
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I am pretty sure that we at least share DNA with Adam?

Eze 2:1
And He said to me, “Son of adam!<H120> stand on thy feet, and I will speak to thee.”

Luke 3:
23Jesus himself, when he began to teach, was about thirty years old, being the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the son of Heli,
37the son of Methuselah, the son of Enoch, the son of Jared, the son of Mahalaleel, the son of Cainan,
38the son of Enos, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.

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I refer to those Jewish people alive today.
They face Judgement/punishment very soon and only a remnant will survive. Jeremiah 12:14, Isaiah 22:14, Amos 2:4-5, Romans 9:27, +
That remnant will join with their Christian brethren and we will all greet Jesus with the shout: Blessed is He that comes in the Name of the Lord!
Differently, I am talking about all the Jews alive here on planet earth the day when Jesus returns in Ezekiel 39:21-29.

Obviously, Ezekiel 39:28 is not talking about all those Jewish people alive to today, as we speak.
 
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Differently, I am talking about all the Jews alive here on planet earth the day when Jesus returns in Ezekiel 39:21-29.

Mat 25:1 "Then the kingdom of heaven shall be likened to ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom.
Mat 25:2 Now five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
Mat 25:3 Those who were foolish took their lamps and took no oil with them,
Mat 25:4 but the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
Mat 25:5 But while the bridegroom was delayed, they all slumbered and slept.
Mat 25:6 "And at midnight a cry was heard: 'Behold, the bridegroom is coming; go out to meet him!'
Mat 25:7 Then all those virgins arose and trimmed their lamps.
Mat 25:8 And the foolish said to the wise, 'Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.'
Mat 25:9 But the wise answered, saying, 'No, lest there should not be enough for us and you; but go rather to those who sell, and buy for yourselves.'
Mat 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the wedding; and the door was shut.
Mat 25:11 "Afterward the other virgins came also, saying, 'Lord, Lord, open to us!'
Mat 25:12 But he answered and said, 'Assuredly, I say to you, I do not know you.'
Mat 25:13 "Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour in which the Son of Man is coming.



1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son.
1Jn 2:23 Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

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Differently, I am talking about all the Jews alive here on planet earth the day when Jesus returns in Ezekiel 39:21-29.

Obviously, Ezekiel 39:28 is not talking about all those Jewish people alive to today, as we speak.
Actually it is provable that they could all be people alive today.
The Lord will motivate all of His faithful people into all of the holy Land, soon after that area is depopulated and cleansed by the forthcoming Day of the Lord's fiery wrath.

The G/M attack could occur as soon as 2-3 years after the Lord's people; Jew and Gentile, from every race, nation and language, have settled into their heritage. THEN we will know the Lord our God..... as He pours out His Spirit upon us. Ezekiel 39:28
 
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Mat 25:11 "Afterward the other virgins came also, saying, 'Lord, Lord, open to us!'
Mat 25:12 But he answered and said, 'Assuredly, I say to you, I do not know you.'
Mat 25:13 "Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour in which the Son of Man is coming.
It is talking about the resurrection/rapture of 1Thessalonian2:15-18.
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son.
1Jn 2:23 Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
Yes, that is a trait of an antichrist.
 
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Actually it is provable that they could all be people alive today.
The Lord will motivate all of His faithful people into all of the holy Land, soon after that area is depopulated and cleansed by the forthcoming Day of the Lord's fiery wrath.
This does not apply to Church...

Ezekiel 39:23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword.

24 According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them.

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28 Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.
 
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This does not apply to Church...

Ezekiel 39:23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword.

24 According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them.

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28 Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.

Since this thread is about the truths of New Testament, what New Testament passage are you using to verify your Old Testament claim?

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Since this thread is about the truths of New Testament, what New Testament passage are you using to verify your Old Testament claim?

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Ezekiel 39:17-18 is the Armageddon feast corresponding to Revelation 19:17-18.

Ezekiel 39:28 corresponds to Matthew 24:31.

Ezekiel 39:9 the 7 years are the 7 years of Revelation 6-19.

In the middle of the 7 years, the Jews, Israel, embrace the gospel and Jesus. Revelation 12:10. For the remainder of they 7 years, they keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus, Revelation 12:17.
 
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This does not apply to Church...

Ezekiel 39:23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword.
Ancient Israel all fell by the sword? Now THATS interesting.
Not that I think they actually all did get killed, but they were, as stated elsewhere; scattered among the nations. The House of Judah, the Jews were too. but they remained an identifiable people group.

What did Jesus come for? To save the House of Israel.
Did He fail? Perish the thought; His disciples and the Apostles did the job and the Christian Church is the result.
THEREFORE; the undeniable fact is that today the Christian peoples constitute the House of Israel.
Confirmed by how we inherit all the Promises of God to Israel thru Jesus. 1 Corinthians 1:20

The serious error is in assigning the prophesies for Israel to the Jewish State of Israel. The Bible prophets always carefully separate Judah and Israel and they remain separate today. Judah, the Jewish people, who wrongly call their country Israel, have many specific prophesies of how God will deal with them in these end times.
But Israel is different, one of the best examples of what the Lord will do to each is in Amos 2:4-5; for Judah and Amos 2:6-16 for Israel. Also Jeremiah 19:10-12 and Jeremiah 18:6; Judah smashed beyond repair and Israel remoulded.

Who is the true Israel? We know the answer; it is every born again Christian, the Lord's chosen people, 1 Peter 2:9-10, and those bought by His blood, Revelation 5:9-10.
THEY are the faithful Israel of God, Galatians 6:14-16, His Overcomers, literally: true Israelites.
With that truth in mind, the prophesies make sense and we can know our destiny; how the Lord promises to save and Bless all who put their trust in Him. Jeremiah 17:7-8

The idea that the Jewish people still have God's favour, is sadly mistaken. They have had nearly 2000 years of God's grace for them to accept their Messiah. This has not and will not happen, as Jesus knew they wouldn't. That is why He said that He would save the lost House of Israel. the other ten tribes, still in exile, who have largely accepted Jesus and are now His Overcomers, the genuine Israelites of God.

The true Israelites of God are every faithful Christian, from every tribe, race, nation and language. That is how it has been from the beginning; the congregation, the ekkelasia; the church of faithful believers, from Abel, to Elijah's 7000, to the few survivors after 40 years in the desert, to the Pilgrim Fathers, to today’s genuine Christian believers.
 
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There several references to a period of 42 months in the Book of Revelation, but no reference to 7 years.

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There are two references to 42 months in Revelation.

There is no 7 years direct reference in Revelation. It takes extensive knowledge of the end times prophecies and other passages from other parts of bible to realize the segments (1260 days, 42 months, time, times, half time) in Revelation when properly placed on a timeline total seven years.

The 7 years are on my chart, and the segments of 1260 days, 42 months, and the time, times, half time.

In Revelation 12, the 7 years are Revelation 12:6 the first half. And Revelation 12:14 the second half.

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There are two references to 42 months in Revelation.

There is no 7 years direct reference in Revelation. It extensive knowledge of the end times prophecies and other passages from other parts of bible to realize the segments (1260 days, 42 months, time, times, half time) in Revelation when properly placed on timeline total seven years.

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The 70th week of Daniel is found below.

It was the time period when the Gospel was taken "first" to Israel.


Mat 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Mat 10:7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.


Act 10:37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;
Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.


Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.


Gal 1:14 And profited in the Jews' religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers.
Gal 1:15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,
Gal 1:16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:
Gal 1:17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.
Gal 1:18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days.

The Gospel was taken first to Israel, based on the scripture above.

Paul did not take the Gospel to the Gentiles until about 3 years after his conversion.

The only way you can make a future 70th week of Daniel work is by ignoring the scripture found above.

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The true Israelites of God are every faithful Christian
That definition you have come up with conflicts with Ezekiel 39:21-29, Jesus Himself speaking. The faithful Christian church is not Israel.

The house of Israel has been scattered to the nations for rejecting Jesus, and has suffered for because He his his face from them.

Ezekiel 39:23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword.
 
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The 70th week of Daniel is found below.

It was the time period when the Gospel was taken "first" to Israel.


Mat 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Mat 10:7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.


Act 10:37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;
Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.


Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.


Gal 1:14 And profited in the Jews' religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers.
Gal 1:15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,
Gal 1:16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:
Gal 1:17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.
Gal 1:18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days.

The Gospel was taken first to Israel, based on the scripture above.

Paul did not take the Gospel to the Gentiles until about 3 years after his conversion.

The only way you can make a future 70th week of Daniel work is by ignoring the scripture found above.

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Where's the 7 years stated in the text? You are saying 7 years is not in Revelation. Yet, you are doing worse because you don't even have 1260 days, 42 months, and the time, times, half times. But are highlighting 3 years. Makes no sense.
 
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Where's the 7 years stated in the text? You are saying 7 years is not in Revelation. Yet, you are doing worse because you don't even have 1260 days, 42 months, and the time, times, half times. But are highlighting 3 years. Makes no sense.

Because Bible scholars have identified 4 Passovers in the Gospels, we know the earthly ministry of Jesus was about 3 1/2 years.

I thought you were aware of this fact.

Paul was converted after the Day of Pentecost, which was about 50 days after Calvary.

Add the 3 years from Galatians chapter 1 to the numbers above.

You do the math and see what number you come up with.

Or do you plan to try and ignore it?


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Or do you plan to try and ignore it?
We plan to be ready, as His servants; Revelation 1:1-2, for all that Jesus told us will happen in last days.
I just wonder what Jesus will say to those who reject His Word's of warning and instruction there. Let alone all the other prophets He sent for us to be ready, prepared physically and Spiritually and not in the dark about what must take place.
 
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Because Bible scholars have identified 4 Passovers in the Gospels, we know the earthly ministry of Jesus was about 3 1/2 years.

I thought you were aware of this fact.

Paul was converted after the Day of Pentecost, which was about 50 days after Calvary.

Add the 3 years from Galatians chapter 1 to the numbers above.

You do the math and see what number you come up with.

Or do you plan to try and ignore it?


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But "7 years" is not in the text, of the passages you are claiming supports your position. You were saying that 7 years is not stated in Revelation. Yet, you failed to show 7 years stated in the text of any of the passages you are citing.

Whereas, on my chart, I referenced the 7 years, stated in the text of Deuteronomy 31:9-13, as the basis for confirming of the covenant for 7 years.

And on the second part of my chart, I went through and explained every time segment stated in Revelation, how they fit together - which you have done none.
 
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But "7 years" is not in the text, of the passages you are claiming supports your position. You were saying that 7 years is not stated in Revelation. Yet, you failed to show 7 years stated in the text of any of the passages you are citing.

Whereas, on my chart, I referenced the 7 years, stated in the text of Deuteronomy 31:9-13, as the basis for confirming of the covenant for 7 years.

And on the second part of my chart, I went through and explained every time segment stated in Revelation, how they fit together - which you have done none.

I do not need to make a chart to make it clear that the Gospel was taken "first" to the Israelites for a period of about 7 years.
I have supplied the scriptures which prove the timeline, in Post #72 above.
It is basic math that any unbiased witness can see.

Since you are attempting to prove your doctrine, you are not an unbiased witness.
Instead, you are attempting to ignore the scripture in the post above.

If you have to make a chart to make your doctrine work, then who is the doctrine coming from?

The 7th trumpet, and "the time of the judgment of the dead" in Revelation 11:15-18 kills the chronology of a 7 year tribulation period.

You can get a 42 month tribulation period from the text, but not 7 years.

Or you could rip Daniel 9:27 out of its New Covenant context to accomplish your goal, as did Darby, and Scofield.

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The 7th trumpet, and "the time of the judgment of the dead" in Revelation 11:15-18 kills the chronology of a 7 year tribulation period.
You can get a 42 month tribulation period from the text, but not 7 years.
You are mistating what I show on my chart and what I have stated to you countless of times before.

I am not and have not been saying there is a 7 year tribulation period. I have written 7 year 70th week of Daniel 9:27.

My chart does not show a 42 month "tribulation" period. My chart shows a 1335 days "great" tribulation.
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The 1260 days of Revelation 11:3 corresponds to the 1260 days of Revelation 12:6 - the first half of the seven years 70th week of Daniel 9:27.

Revelation 11:2 the 42 months corresponds to the 42 months in Revelation 13:5 that the beast rules without being impeded by the two witnesses - the second half of the 7 year 70 week of Daniel 9:27.

Revelation 11:3 the 1260 days of the two witnesses - first half
Revelation 11:2 the 42 months of the nations treading down - second half.

You are ignoring explaining any of the seven year segments in Revelation.

Instead you are rationalizing a 3 1/2 year timeframe, based on the number of Passovers in the four gospels, which is not even stated in the text your are claiming supports your position as a time frame, 3 1/2 years or otherwise.
 
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Revelation 11:2 the 42 months corresponds to the 42 months in Revelation 13:5 that the beast rules without being impeded by the two witnesses - the second half of the 7 year 70 week of Daniel 9:27.

Since there is no "gap" mentioned by the angel Gabriel in the 490 year prophecy of Daniel 9, a future 70th week of Daniel is a fantasy of men.

The Messiah was "cut off" after the 69 weeks, which would have to be during the 70th week.

It also ignores the fulfillment of Daniel 9:24, found in the New Testament.


Daniel Chapter 9: Dr. Kelly Varner

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