Yes, the Filioque is important.
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Session 6.
“In the name of the holy Trinity, Father, Son and holy Spirit, we define, with the approval of this holy universal council of Florence, that the following truth of faith shall be believed and accepted by all Christians and thus shall all profess it: that the holy Spirit is eternally from the Father and the Son, and has his essence and his subsistent being from the Father together with the Son, and proceeds from both eternally as from one principle and a single spiration. We declare that when holy doctors and fathers say that the holy Spirit proceeds from the Father through the Son, this bears the sense that thereby also the Son should be signified, according to the Greeks indeed as cause, and according to the Latins as principle of the subsistence of the holy Spirit, just like the Father.
And since the Father gave to his only-begotten Son in begetting him everything the Father has, except to be the Father, so the Son has eternally from the Father, by whom he was eternally begotten, this also, namely that the holy Spirit proceeds from the Son.”
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So Long, And Thanks For All The Fish!
And, here we go again, with this.....
Tossing out single Bible verses at random, is a very poor, and possibly dangerous way to abuse scripture.
"Proof-Texting", looking at verses without the context of the passage ,and the rest of scripture can lead to some serious errors! Look all the trouble this has caused, in that spurious concept of "the rapture"
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Nothing here refutes what I originally said, Being a cause of the Holy Spirit doesn’t mean being its originator. The council’s statements don’t deny the authority over the Holy Spirit was something given to the Son by the Father. The Son received the authority to send the spirit from the Father and proceeds from him and through him. Technically if the spirit proceeded through the Son it would also make him a cause either way.
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it is. the last time we went through this rodeo, you were defending Rome using your own arguments and not what Rome actually says.
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I’m actually using Rome’s arguments, you also seem to have this habit of using the term Rome as if it’s separate entity all together.
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it was your explanation, without showing any evidence from the time that your explanation is correct.
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did I say it does??
i hear you Accusing me of reading the Filioque into Scripture, then turning around and reading into my post
(very clever, but eventually people may start noticing)
that verse is relevant because it deals with both of these disputed aspects of the godhead, much like Psalms 33:16
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