4th Century St.Augustine Exposes Ape-To-Man Hoax.

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Only according to the scientific definition since all mammals don't have the intelligence of God, which Humans (descendants of Adam) have inherited. Genesis 3:22

What other definition of "mammal", is there?

So, is that a yes or a no?
Is a human a mammal?

He who laughs last, laughs best.

Haa, are the hell threats already underway?

Christians are Spirits trapped in bodies of sinful flesh but we soon will fly up to meet Jesus in the clouds and forever be with Him there. 1Th 4:17 Join us?

Preach it brother

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What other definition of "mammal", is there?

So, is that a yes or a no?
Is a human a mammal?

No. A Human is a child of God and has little in common with creatures made from water. We live temporarily in bodies of sinful flesh but that doesn't make us animals since we were first made long BEFORE any other creature. Gen 2:4-7

Haa, are the hell threats already underway?

What threats? Are you jealous because I'm going to live forever?
 
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No. A Human is a child of God and has little in common with creatures made from water. We live temporarily in bodies of sinful flesh but that doesn't make us animals since we were first made long BEFORE any other creature. Gen 2:4-7

Definition of mammal. : any of a class (Mammalia) of warm-blooded higher vertebrates (such as placentals, marsupials, or monotremes) that nourish their young with milk secreted by mammary glands, have the skin usually more or less covered with hair

Let's see...
warm blooded? check
higher vertebrates? check
mammary glands? check
hair? check

So....
How, in your opinion, don't humans fit this definition?

What threats? Are you jealous because I'm going to live forever?

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Definition of mammal. : any of a class (Mammalia) of warm-blooded higher vertebrates (such as placentals, marsupials, or monotremes) that nourish their young with milk secreted by mammary glands, have the skin usually more or less covered with hair

Let's see...
warm blooded? check
higher vertebrates? check
mammary glands? check
hair? check

So....
How, in your opinion, don't humans fit this definition?

You are falsely assuming that Humans are animals. Your changeable classification system is in error since you teach that Humans (God's children) are nothing more than animals. Such false teaching will get you thrown out of Congress for bigotry.
 
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First, this is an insult; at one time I could have challenged you to a duel for libelling me in this way.

Second, if I am not an ape, what do you think I am?
Fully human ;)
 
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Guess how many mutations Europeans share with Neanderthals.... give up?
It's 103,612.

Guess how many shared mutations Africans have with Neanderthals... give up?
It's 95,347.

Isn't science cool?

You're welcome.
..And then came assumptions.
 
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Are humans mammals?
According taxon, yes. But being part of a biological taxon don't make us one and the same species with apes. I was unable to find any apes in my family tree.
 
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According taxon, yes. But being part of a biological taxon don't make us one and the same species with apes. I was unable to find any apes in my family tree.
According to taxonomy we are Hominids aka great apes. And every humans family tree is full of apes.

What do you think apes are?
 
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According taxon, yes. But being part of a biological taxon don't make us one and the same species with apes. I was unable to find any apes in my family tree.
But what, exactly do you mean by "ape?" Any member of the family Homidae?
 
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You are falsely assuming that Humans are animals.

Definition of animal: Any of the eukaryotic multicellular organisms of the biological kingdom Animalia that are generally characterized to be heterotrophic, motile, having specialized sensory organs, lacking cell wall, and growing from a blastula during embryonic development

So tell me, how exactly do humans not fit that definition?

And you still also have to point out how humans don't fit the definition of "mammal".

I should note, I consider it extremely likely that you won't answer either question.

Your changeable classification system is in error since you teach that Humans (God's children) are nothing more than animals. Such false teaching will get you thrown out of Congress for bigotry.


If it's false, it should be easy to show it false.
So... point out how humans don't fit the definitions of "mammal" and "animal".

I gave you the definitions, so it should be easy enough for you.


Not holding my breath.
 
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According taxon, yes. But being part of a biological taxon don't make us one and the same species with apes. I was unable to find any apes in my family tree.

In my famility tree, every single member is:
- a homo sapiens
- a great ape
- a mammal
- a tetrapod
- a vertebrate
- an eukaryote.
- an animal.


In yours too. It's what a human is.
 
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Apes are apes.
"Ape" is a family, not just one species. The family induces gorillas, orangutans, chimps, bonobos and humans as well as a number of extinct species.
 
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There are plenty of creation scientists who disagree with Darwinian assumptions. Modern science is not supposed to be a political game where scientists take on the mentality of vacuum cleaner salesman.

"And if natural Philosophy in all its Parts, by pursuing this Method, shall at length be perfected, the Bounds of Moral Philosophy will also be enlarged. For so far as we can know by natural Philosophy what is the first Cause, what Power he has over us, and what Benefits we receive from him, so far our Duty towards him, as well as that towards one another, will appear to us by the Light of Nature. And no doubt, if the Worship of false Gods had not blinded the Heathen, their moral Philosophy would have gone farther than to the four Cardinal Virtues; and instead of teaching the Transmigration of Souls, and to worship the Sun and Moon, and dead Heroes, they would have taught us to worship our true Author and Benefactor, as their Ancestors did under the Government of Noah and his Sons before they corrupted themselves." ~ Isaac Newton, "Opticks" (closing statement).

Modern science was never meant to be a war against Christian morality. It took centuries of Christian morality to reach the kind of discipline necessary to achieve modern science, as scientific accomplishments are moral achievements and not just a means to boost the ego. One teaching in Christianity not commonly shared with atheist dogma is how Christians aren't suppose to lie. Those that lie, as Scripture very clearly teaches, will not be saved. So telling the truth and being honest was a major milestone achievement which made scientific method possible.

Now atheism teaches that morality is relative which is at odds with Judeo-Christian doctrine which teaches that morality is an absolute. Newton was the father of modern physics and had he been a moral relativist I doubt modern physics would have had a place to begin. All scientists before Darwin were Bible believing Christians and it was their great achievements that ushered in and established modern science as a discipline.

Evolutionists have turned science into a political career where most evolutionists are not even trained in scientific method but are merely indoctrinated in the new religion of atheism and the moral relativism that comes with it. Science has become more ego centered compared to the Christ centered Christians who made modern science possible and without the help of atheists to make it happen.

So Christians owe no apology to science since modern science was only possible with creationist scientists. Evolutionists hitched a ride on the science train and hijacked science through political rivalry and sensational words aimed at stirring up emotions among the gullible. And where has decades of moral relativism from atheists taken us? Well today somehow we got Islam from atheism as most atheists today have become like the Ansar (i.e., "the Helpers") not to mention afterbirth abortions, a push for world communism and the list of ills goes on. Lying and deceit in atheism is not a sin because the atheist don't believe in sin or see themselves as sinners. Once a person convinces himself the is no sin and there is no hell, lying and cheating for personal gain become options to those who egos have turned into a god-complex. For a man without sin is infallible and atheists have pronounced themselves as infallible. Every word spoken by the atheist scientist is the infallible word of science until a younger generation of atheists comes along and refutes the previous indisputable facts with new indisputable facts and the story continues to change and old characters disappear and replaced by new characters. If our world continues as it is 300 years from now nobody here in the present will even recognize evolution theory. The story changes to keep the politics of moral relativism going.

I see no logical reason why I or anyone else should believe anything from moral relativists. Consider the source and the moral character of the source in all analysis.
 
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Definition of animal: Any of the eukaryotic multicellular organisms of the biological kingdom Animalia that are generally characterized to be heterotrophic, motile, having specialized sensory organs, lacking cell wall, and growing from a blastula during embryonic development

So tell me, how exactly do humans not fit that definition?

Humans are God's children and our blood has been contaminated with the DNA of animals who descended from Water.

And you still also have to point out how humans don't fit the definition of "mammal".

Humans were made on the 3rd Day Genesis 2:4-7 and "every living creature that moveth" was made on the 5th Day from Water. Genesis 1:21

I should note, I consider it extremely likely that you won't answer either question.

Wrong again. Why don't you tell us HOW Humans (descendants of Adam) managed to descend from creatures made long AFTER Adam was made? Tell us the process if different from INHERITANCE. No magical processes please.
 
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