no longterm memory in hell

bragar said:

i had a thought. i believe time goes fast in hell, and one reason why i think that is people dont get longterm memory in hell, heaven too maybe. so a day will go by and you cant remember the next day so you dont even remember when you died,. so eternity feels like one day. seems right, right? 100,000 years later and your still on day 1. thats eternity. do you think this beliefs sucks or nah if true. honestly if i died id want to remember time, grow tired, and black out & die. the thought of being alive for eternity everything must die eventually right?

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Trying to imagine eternity from the mental framework of a mortal human being is like a square trying to understand the third dimension.

Flatland - Wikipedia

-CryptoLutheran

bragar said:

i had a thought. i believe time goes fast in hell, and one reason why i think that is people dont get longterm memory in hell, heaven too maybe. so a day will go by and you cant remember the next day so you dont even remember when you died,. so eternity feels like one day. seems right, right? 100,000 years later and your still on day 1. thats eternity. do you think this beliefs sucks or nah if true. honestly if i died id want to remember time, grow tired, and black out & die. the thought of being alive for eternity everything must die eventually right?

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Hell is the grave and the dead know nothing. so yeah when the dead are resurrected they will not know if they have been in the grave for thousands of years or one minute.

Ecclesiastes 9:5

5 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing, and they have no more reward, for the memory of them is forgotten.

Everything on earth will eventually all be destroyed ... then God will make everything new and perfect for eternity.

Revelation 21:5

5 And he who was seated on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.” Also he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.”

AMEN!

bragar said:

i had a thought. i believe time goes fast in hell, and one reason why i think that is people dont get longterm memory in hell, heaven too maybe. so a day will go by and you cant remember the next day so you dont even remember when you died,. so eternity feels like one day. seems right, right? 100,000 years later and your still on day 1. thats eternity. do you think this beliefs sucks or nah if true. honestly if i died id want to remember time, grow tired, and black out & die. the thought of being alive for eternity everything must die eventually right?

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I have some problems with this.

First, if there's unlimited time, then it doesn't matter how fast it goes.

Second, it's bad enough to torture people forever, but for them not even to remember why?

in Judgement Christ will tell you why you are going to hell. You will know. we have example of those like Fr. Stephen.




The saints taught that in Hell you will always know exactly why you are there and will remember all the sins that put you there and it will add to your eternal misery. I would imagine in hell one day will seem like 100000000 years because of the intense suffering. But knowing its eternal and there is no way you'll ever get out will make it feel even longer. Pure torture. In heaven you will be elevated by God to see him face to face and you will never get bored because you will know you are with God and He fulfills all desires.

hedrick said:

I have some problems with this.

First, if there's unlimited time, then it doesn't matter how fast it goes.

Second, it's bad enough to torture people forever, but for them not even to remember why?

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The reason you have problems with this is because a loving God does not torture people.

Hell is the grave and there is no consciousness in hell ... all are in a dormant state until Jesus returns and then the 1st resurrection (the saved) happens. The second resurrection (the unsaved) happens later and then all are destroyed for eternity (not tortured).

Ecclesiastes 9

5 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing. They have no further reward, because the memory of them is forgotten.

1st Thessalonians 4

The Return of the Lord

13Brothers, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you will not grieve like the rest, who are without hope. 14For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, we also believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in Him.

15By the word of the Lord, we declare to you that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who have fallen asleep. 16For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise. 17After that, we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord.

18Therefore encourage one another with these words.

Those in the 2nd resurrection.

Malachi 4:1,3. "For behold the day is coming burning like and oven, and all the proud, yes allude wickedly shall be as stubble. And the day that is coming shall burn them up, says the Lord of hosts, that shall leave them neither root nor branch. . . You shall trample the wicked for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet."

hedrick said:

I have some problems with this.

First, if there's unlimited time, then it doesn't matter how fast it goes.

Second, it's bad enough to torture people forever, but for them not even to remember why?

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Indeed. I have a real problem with any conceptualization of the afterlife that involves indignity against the human person. At least in the traditional Christian perspective, people know why they are in hell.

That's one reason BTW I reject annihilationism. Annihilation is the ultimate indignity- to render a person a nothing. God is bigger than that, he doesn't have to "rub out" his enemies. As François Fénelon said, God is gracious to even those who must endure his judgment. If there is a gate in hell, it is locked from the inside.

bragar said:

i had a thought. i believe time goes fast in hell, and one reason why i think that is people dont get longterm memory in hell, heaven too maybe. so a day will go by and you cant remember the next day so you dont even remember when you died,. so eternity feels like one day. seems right, right? 100,000 years later and your still on day 1. thats eternity. do you think this beliefs sucks or nah if true. honestly if i died id want to remember time, grow tired, and black out & die. the thought of being alive for eternity everything must die eventually right?

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"Time" is the degrading of the physical world as it groans with birthing pains before the next earth is born. After this life, time does not exist. We call that "eternal".

FireDragon76 said:

Indeed. I have a real problem with any conceptualization of the afterlife that involves indignity against the human person. At least in the traditional Christian perspective, people know why they are in hell.

That's one reason BTW I reject annihilationism. Annihilation is the ultimate indignity- to render a person a nothing. God is bigger than that, he doesn't have to "rub out" his enemies. As François Fénelon said, God is gracious to even those who must endure his judgment. If there is a gate in hell, it is locked from the inside.

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There is no gate. People appreciate the ability to torment themselves for their sins. They know they reject God and accept the grief they deserve.