Why evolution isn't scientific

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If you are going to claim ANYTHING as being factually correct, then you must provide evidence to support the claim that it is correct.
That does not include getting you to accept what are facts or not. The bible is correct. Science regarding the past is incorrect. Now if science had some proof for the past nature it uses religiously in all models of the past, then we should have seen it by now. I think the time has come to stop pretending it has anything but baseless beliefs.
 
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The bible needs no more support far as I am concerned, your religious so called science has no support. Evolution is not knowledge, it is contrived blasphemy.
The above denial of evolution was written by a human with a vestigial tail . . . called a coccyx. He may even be one of us humans who has the muscle attached for lifting the tail, but many of us lack that muscle . . . so it is uncertain if he has it or not. But we do know some humans have it. And it cannot do anything. It is a vestige.
 
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The above denial of evolution was written by a human with a vestigial tail . . . called a coccyx. He may even be one of us humans who has the muscle attached for lifting the tail, but many of us lack that muscle . . . so it is uncertain if he has it or not. But we do know some humans have it. And it cannot do anything. It is a vestige.
Some people's dad had a tail eh? Some people are also God's children and created by Him.
 
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The bible is correct.

prove it.

Science regarding the past is incorrect.

Prove it.

And before you try your old attempts at misdirection, asking someone else to support their position is NOT you supporting your position.

And I know I haven't counted the last few posts, but this is the thirteenth post you have made in which you failed to provide any evidence to support your position.
 
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Why do you people expect things in the past to be the same as they are now?

For the exact same reason that we expect our calculations to achieve escape velocity today, will work just as well tomorrow so that the rockets we build today, can be launched tomorrow.

You expect the exact same thing. You acquire technology today while assuming that the natural laws that make that technology possible (speed of light, electro-magnetism, gravity, etc) will apply tomorrow in the exact same way as they do today and did yesterday.



There is exactly ZERO reason to expect otherwise.

And no, desperatly and dogmatically clinging to a bronze age myth, is not such a reason. Not a rational one, anyway.

If things were the same, even under your own theory there would be no reason for life to evolve and adapt to the changing conditions, but as one of you stated would remain in stasis being adapted to the conditions......

:rolleyes:

So silly and dishonest......

So are you promoting stasis with no evolution, or change with evolution? I'm not sure anymore from your arguments against Dad.....

Change in makeup of molecules due to (bio)chemistry, is something completely different then the crazy nonsense that dad is claiming....

Seems the only one arguing for change is Dad.....

When even you need to lie about the lies.... then you know just how bad the argument is.
 
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prove it.



Prove it.
As long as you are are unable to accept or recognize any evidence or proof outside of your religion, no one can prove much to you. About all you can do is respect the beliefs of others.
And before you try your old attempts at misdirection, asking someone else to support their position is NOT you supporting your position.

My position is that science needs to support it's anti bible models and beliefs, or it will remain exposed as a fraud. It is not a matter, in this thread of what beliefs are better, it is only a question of what is belief and what is known.
 
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As long as you are are unable to accept or recognize any evidence or proof outside of your religion, no one can prove much to you. About all you can do is respect the beliefs of others.

Yeah, that isn't proof for your position.

My position is that science needs to support it's anti bible models and beliefs, or it will remain exposed as a fraud. It is not a matter, in this thread of what beliefs are better, it is only a question of what is belief and what is known.

No, your position is that the laws of the universe were different in the past. You need to support this position with evidence. This is the fourteenth post in which you have failed to do so, and I doubt you ever will.
 
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Yeah, that isn't proof for your position.



No, your position is that the laws of the universe were different in the past. You need to support this position with evidence. This is the fourteenth post in which you have failed to do so, and I doubt you ever will.
Actually, my osition is that science has little clue what the actual universe is like right NOW! Time for example, they do not know what it is like out there. As for earth, my position is that all claims about the past nature from science are beliefs only. I have my own beliefs, thanks. Your religion stands exposed.
 
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Actually, my osition is that science has little clue what the actual universe is like right NOW! Time for example, they do not know what it is like out there. As for earth, my position is that all claims about the past nature from science are beliefs only. I have my own beliefs, thanks. Your religion stands exposed.

And this is post 15 in which you have made claims and failed to support them.
 
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Probably just one of hundreds you posted all of which have failed to support your beliefs or even support your off the cuff fly by so called science claims.
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So it's bad when I do it, but perfectly acceptable when you do it? You really gotta work on this, your double standards are showing.

And I've supported my position. I don't do it anymore because you ignore it and I've got better things to do than waste my time.
 
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Some people's dad had a tail eh? Some people are also God's children and created by Him.
Were you created by God and also birthed by mortal humans? If you can believe that to be true, you can also believe you were created by God using the means of evolution.
 
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Were you created by God and also birthed by mortal humans?
I was born of people who were born ...from Adam and Eve who were created.
If you can believe that to be true, you can also believe you were created by God using the means of evolution.

No more than I could believe Noah was 45,000,000 years old.
 
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