Have I blasphemed the Holy Spirit?

Kenny'sID said:

Anthony, my friend. look what you are doing, you are depending on men, and that's fine if you can trust them but far too many you cannot.

Please don't grab something from the net and state it as fact as it seems you just did. And I say that out of absolute concern for you. Just go read what the bible says on it. Then put that up against what the person you mention says, and see if he is giving a personal opinion derived of whatever he may be thinking or is it a solid definition of the actual scripture?

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John Piper is a very intelligent man I've listened to for years, who is gifted in his wisdom from the Holy Spirit. I trust him and his explanation, and most of all it has given me peace. God knew of my frustration, and led me to that source. He also promises the truth will set me free, and it has.

Anyway, let's focus not on debating this topic, but on providing encouragement for Hannah. I think she could really use it right now.

Dave-W said:

You are confusing unforgiven with unforgivable.

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Nothing is unforgivable only rejection of the Lord.

Anthony7 said:

John Piper is a very intelligent man I've listened to for years, who is gifted in his wisdom from the Holy Spirit. I trust him and his explanation, and most of all it has given me peace. God knew of my frustration, and led me to that source. He also promises the truth will set me free, and it has.

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OK, if you feel his explanation is gold, and no need to research that up against what the bible says, that would be up to you.

My bible says it can be a one time thing. And that one time thing was exactly what was done there in the scripture. I think your man there overthought it, but they can sound like they are intelligent, however the bible definitely is, and is my 1st choice for truth.

Many a man is out there to make us 'feel better".

Kenny'sID said:

OK, if you feel his expanation id=s gold, and no need to resaearch that up against what the bible says, that would n=b3e up to you.

My bible says it can be a one time thing. And that one time thing was exactly what was done there in the scripture. I think your man there overthought it, but they can sound like they are intelligent, however the bible definitely is, and is my 1st choice for truth.

Many a man is out there to make us 'feel better".

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Anthony7 said:

Anyway, let's focus not on debating this topic, but on providing encouragement for Hannah. I think she could really use it right now.

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God's ways are simple: if you want God's forgiveness, and seek it out with repentance in your heart, you will receive it.We can continue arguing what this sin is and yet never be satisfied with the answer. But, whatever this sin is, it can not contradict the promise of God: All those who come to Him He will in no ways cast out (John 6:37).

Hannah239 said:

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You are not dead, so you haven't committed blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

Not many people here seem to know what blasphemy of the Holy Spirit actually is.

CCC 1864:
"There are no limits to the mercy of God, but anyone who deliberately refuses to accept His mercy by repenting, rejects the forgiveness of his sins, and the salvation offered by the Holy Spirit. Such hardness of heart can lead to final impenitence and eternal loss."

It is a stubborn and persistent turning away from God's love and mercy up to and including the time when you die.

God will not make anyone be in Heaven who does not want to be there.

CleanSoul said:

You are not dead, so you haven't committed blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

Not many people here seem to know what blasphemy of the Holy Spirit actually is.

CCC 1864:
"There are no limits to the mercy of God, but anyone who deliberately refuses to accept His mercy by repenting, rejects the forgiveness of his sins, and the salvation offered by the Holy Spirit. Such hardness of heart can lead to final impenitence and eternal loss."

It is a stubborn and persistent turning away from God's love and mercy up to and including the time when you die.

God will not make anyone be in Heaven who does not want to be there.

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And where does the bible back that up?...I charge it's completely made up.

What is the unforgivable sin?

Jesus was clear, the unforgivable sin is slandering the Holy Spirit, and saying it is something it is not. In the particular case where it is mentioned in the Bible, it was reducing the works of the Holy spirit to that of an "impure spirit", "the Devil". It's saying The works of the Holy Spirit such as healing, raising people from the dead, and so on, are of the powers of evil, not the power of good. Slander, simply, or lying about what the Holy Spirit is.

The following is exactly what the bible says it is, and that is not even close to some of the definitions given here. If I were some of you, I'd be very careful, because if we define it wrongly people will not know what it is, and they may commit it, and maybe because of what you told, or didn't tell them. Please...stop listening to preachers who's teachings do not line up with the Bible.

Here, see for yourselves exactly what it is:

Mark 3:20-30 NIV

20 Then Jesus entered a house, and again a crowd gathered, so that he and his disciples were not even able to eat.
21 When his family heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, “He is out of his mind.”

22 And the teachers of the law who came down from Jerusalem said, “He is possessed by Beelzebul! By the prince of demons he is driving out demons.”
23 So Jesus called them over to him and began to speak to them in parables: “How can Satan drive out Satan?
24 If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.
25 If a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand.
26 And if Satan opposes himself and is divided, he cannot stand; his end has come.
27 In fact, no one can enter a strong man’s house without first tying him up. Then he can plunder the strong man’s house.
28 Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter,

29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin.”

30 He said this because they were saying, “He has an impure spirit.”

Maria Billingsley said:

Nothing is unforgivable only rejection of the Lord.

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Except our Lord said this one violation was unforgivable, not just unforgiven.

You cannot just reduce God to an equation. He is a person and can make His own exceptions to anything.

Kenny'sID said:

Then we are saying Christ went against what God said. It's clear, as you say, he said one thing and God said another.

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If you think that then you are either misunderstanding what you think God said, or what our Lord said.
Or both.

Anthony7 said:

Anyway, let's focus not on debating this topic, but on providing encouragement for Hannah. I think she could really use it right now.

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I totally agree.

Hannah - the very fact that you want to continue to follow the Lord is indication that you have NOT (repeat NOT) committed this sin.

God understands us when we are angry or frustrated or hurt. That is part of why Jesus came here - to prove to us that HE knows what we go thru. And if a child of ours is hurt or angry and lashes out, we may correct that child, but we do not abandon them, give them up for adoption, or the like. Neither will HE abandon us.

Hannah239 said:

I very much agree. And kenny, Jesus warned the Pharisees even after they said he had an unclean spirit. He didn’t condemn them right away. Which substantiates the idea that it is not a one-strike and you’re out thing where you hurt god’s feelings and he says “whoops, you go to hell”

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Excellent point: He WARNED them, meaning they were either on the path to committing that sin or very close to it.

He was still giving them opportunity to repent.

We all need those opportunities from time to time.

Hannah239 said:

Let’s come to an agreement. Those words are unforgivable BUT requires an irreversible hatred towards God. So saying some words under duress doesn’t count, because God knows our hearts very well. Better than we do. And if you’re worried you haven’t committed it, it’s because you were not saying it with enough hate and malice for it to count. If god counted any words we said we didn’t mean against us, heaven would be very empty right now. And I can’t stress this part enough: he NEVER NEVER NEVER casts away people who come to him.

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YES!!! that is it!