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Hello, fellow Christians! I am glad to join this forum and hope to find wisdom and good friends here. I am born again Christian, God saved me from a new age delusions couple of months ago. I am very grateful for what Jesus had done in my life. As I have good experience in meditation and mindfulness practices I am interested in what is the Christian view on those? Meditation clearly had some benefits for me when I used to practice it. I had more control over my emotions and thoughts, it helped me focus and calmness. However, after God saved me I stopped doing those practices. What are the Christian alternatives to get the benefits of meditation and mindfulness? Can we, as Christians still practice these without involving the spiritual part of it? As I stopped meditation, seems like all my depression and struggles came back. It is getting harder to control my negative thoughts and emotions take control over me as they used to do in the past. Prayer helps me at the moment but it does not have a long-lasting effect after I am finished with a prayer. Please, provide me with good alternatives and wisdom from the scriptures to battle my anxiety, depression and negative emotions. God bless you all!
 

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Hello Kenosis, I believe most of Christianity is meditation. We have many methods of seeking the Lord when needed. An example as you said is prayer, which has different forms depending upon the moment. It could be short and simple giving thanks or long and deep confessing sin, but also it could be meditative letting your thoughts and emotions about God or life be processed.

Even when I'm mindful of Him it's not always me on my knees, but just being thoughtful and heartfelt when I have the time during the day. Other than clearing the mind, it's also what you put in it influencing your future thoughts and emotions. Something positive and uplifting, remembering it during periods of difficulty to give you hope. Reading or hearing the word of God, remembering certain scriptures or verses you like or relate to you can help too. As a community you have brothers and sisters to share in the love of God as well.

God bless you too!
 
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If your just concentrating on breathing and imagining things for relaxation it’s pretty harmless.

I have been in an extended deep state of prayer at night in bed and combined it with what I’d read in the bible along with relmeditation techniques that don’t involve other religions for some variety and it works well for me for a different kind of prayer sometimes.

Often Christians refer to meditation as studying the Bible but for me that’s closer to academia and more knowledge gathering.
 
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We have a concept called 'meditation,' but it refers to the contemplation of what you read or study in the word of God.

I don't have any specific advice to help calm your anxiety, except that you cast it on the Lord in prayer. Also, be careful of turning prayer into a method to merely relieve stress or anxiety. It should be a communion and fellowship between you and God, regardless of how it makes you feel (although it does relax your mind).
 
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Hello, fellow Christians! I am glad to join this forum and hope to find wisdom and good friends here. I am born again Christian, God saved me from a new age delusions couple of months ago. I am very grateful for what Jesus had done in my life. As I have good experience in meditation and mindfulness practices I am interested in what is the Christian view on those? Meditation clearly had some benefits for me when I used to practice it. I had more control over my emotions and thoughts, it helped me focus and calmness. However, after God saved me I stopped doing those practices. What are the Christian alternatives to get the benefits of meditation and mindfulness? Can we, as Christians still practice these without involving the spiritual part of it? As I stopped meditation, seems like all my depression and struggles came back. It is getting harder to control my negative thoughts and emotions take control over me as they used to do in the past. Prayer helps me at the moment but it does not have a long-lasting effect after I am finished with a prayer. Please, provide me with good alternatives and wisdom from the scriptures to battle my anxiety, depression and negative emotions. God bless you all!
Hans Urs von Balthasar had a great little book on 'Christian Meditation' which differentiated the long and valid Christian practice of meditation from the popular eastern meditation that is so popular today. Two different things. You can go astray with eastern meditation. Christian meditation meditates on something, Jesus and his Father and their Spirit. Not some void.

He also wrote a profound book, 'Prayer' well worth studying.

Mindfulness may be an OK idea if it means you take custody of your thoughts, stopping negative emotionalism. It is the emotionalism that harms us. Meditating on God's love for us, through Biblical examples, might help. The mindfulness is useful in getting you to pause the negative emotions, but then flood your mind with imagery of how God loves you. Therein begins Christian meditation.
 
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Hi @Kenosis, here is a short article from GotQuestions.org on mindfulness and the Christian.

What is mindfulness?
Question: "What is mindfulness? Should a Christian be involved in mindfulness?"

Answer:
Mindfulness is a term used to describe a meditative state in which people direct their attention inward to become more self-aware. Mindfulness is self-examination of one’s thoughts, feelings, physical sensations, and emotions with no judgment of their being right or wrong. The goal of meditative mindfulness is to identify thoughts and feelings about a particular issue, to live in the moment, and to accept oneself completely. When this goal has been reached, the person is said to have entered a state of mindfulness.

Mindfulness is rooted in Buddhism, as promoters of mindfulness readily admit, although it is often adapted for secular purposes. The ideology behind mindfulness is to achieve stillness and balance of the mind.

Man’s efforts to calm the mind and rid the life of stressors—through mindfulness or other New Age techniques—are an attempt to manufacture peace. From a biblical perspective, we know that only Jesus gives the peace that can exist in all circumstances (John 14:27; Philippians 4:7). No human can control emotions or thoughts on his or her own because we are born slaves to a sinful nature (Romans 6:17–23). Only through the power of the Holy Spirit who sets our minds free to think truthfully can we know true peace. If we want to practice being more aware or insightful, there are much better options than mindfulness techniques, such as Bible study and prayers for insight.

When Christians think biblically, they see things defined through the lens of Scripture. The word mindful, which means “attentive,” is not describing anything inherently wrong. Christians can be mindful of Christ by taking every thought captive for Christ and renewing their minds with the truth (2 Corinthians 10:5; Romans 12:2). But mindfulness, as promoted in psychology and used as a meditation technique, is not biblical.
 
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Thank you for your recommendations! By meditation and mindfulness, I mostly refer to concentrating on the present moment. There are a lot of techniques, but one which I was practicing the most when I was interested in Nonduality teachings was "Do nothing method". Were you absolutely let go of any control and fully borrow in present awareness. It seems like this method should not contradict Christian teachings but I am not sure, as I am very new on this path. Jesus saved me recently and I do not want to get deluded again by New Age and nonduality practices. I read that meditation may be a way for negative forces to enter your mind. I am not sure about that but meditation definitely caused some sort of depersonalization for me. I experience myself as an observer of my thoughts, emotions, and feelings and not the one who initiates them. From that perspective, it also seems like there is no free will or controlling agent. However, as I was saved by Lord now I am trying to resurrect myself back as a person and gain back the feeling of free will.
 
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Hans Urs von Balthasar had a great little book on 'Christian Meditation' which differentiated the long and valid Christian practice of meditation from the popular eastern meditation that is so popular today. Two different things. You can go astray with eastern meditation. Christian meditation meditates on something, Jesus and his Father and their Spirit. Not some void.

This is a very important insight indeed. In Eastern meditation, you are experiencing the death of the ego. You sort of lose yourself in the infinite void. You become empty and sense of the self is lost. You disappear in nothingness. This is what they call Enlightenment when this state becomes permanent. This is a very dangerous state to be in from my experience. I am still struggling with depersonalization issues after coming back from those delusions. I almost died - it literally feels like dying. God saved me and showed me the Truth of Jesus Christ. In Christianity, you don't disappear in infinity. On contrary, you are in a personal relationship with a personal God. So much different! But my problem is all those negative emotions and thoughts I killed and borrowed with meditation now backlashed and flood me again after I left the meditation practice. It is very hard to withstand all this now.
 
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And here is an article from the same folks on Christian Meditation.

What is Christian meditation?
Question: "What is Christian meditation?"

Answer:
Psalm 19:14 states, “May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be pleasing in your sight, O Lord, my Rock and my Redeemer.” What, then, is Christian meditation, and how should Christians meditate? Unfortunately, the word “meditation” can carry the connotation of something mystical. For some, meditation is clearing the mind while sitting in an unusual position. For others, meditation is communing with the spirit world around us. Concepts such as these most definitely do not characterize Christian meditation.

Christian meditation has nothing to do with practices that have Eastern mysticism as their foundation. Such practices include lectio divina, transcendental meditation, and many forms of what is called contemplative prayer. These have at their core a dangerous premise that we need to “hear God’s voice,” not through His Word, but through personal revelation through meditation. Some churches are filled with people who think they are hearing a “word from the Lord,” often contradicting one another and therefore causing endless divisions within the body of Christ. Christians are not to abandon God’s Word, which is “God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work” (2 Timothy 3:16-17). If the Bible is sufficient to thoroughly equip us for every good work, how could we think we need to seek a mystical experience instead of or in addition to it?

Christian meditation is to be solely on the Word of God and what it reveals about Him. David found this to be so, and he describes the man who is “blessed” as one whose “delight is in the law of the LORD, and on his law he meditates day and night” (Psalm 1:2). True Christian meditation is an active thought process whereby we give ourselves to the study of the Word, praying over it and asking God to give us understanding by the Spirit, who has promised to lead us “into all truth” (John 16:13). Then we put this truth into practice, committing ourselves to the Scriptures as the rule for life and practice as we go about our daily activities. This causes spiritual growth and maturing in the things of God as we are taught by His Holy Spirit.
 
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This is a very important insight indeed. In Eastern meditation, you are experiencing the death of the ego. You sort of lose yourself in the infinite void. You become empty and sense of the self is lost. You disappear in nothingness. This is what they call Enlightenment when this state becomes permanent. This is a very dangerous state to be in from my experience. I am still struggling with depersonalization issues after coming back from those delusions. I almost died - it literally feels like dying. God saved me and showed me the Truth of Jesus Christ. In Christianity, you don't disappear in infinity. On contrary, you are in a personal relationship with a personal God. So much different! But my problem is all those negative emotions and thoughts I killed and borrowed with meditation now backlashed and flood me again after I left the meditation practice. It is very hard to withstand all this now.
personally do not see much wrong in what you have said about your previous meditation practices.

Even in the Bible, it states that we dye daily.....and no more I but Christ that lives in me. Even to be still and know. You have expressed that when you have tried to lessen your personality.....your negative thoughts subsided......and now that you are trying to gain it back...your negative thoughts are coming back.

What is it about the practices you mentioned here......that you feel could be against the teaching of Christ....and why?
 
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I am familiar with the New Age movement and know what it has been known to do to ordinary people who are searching for answers in their lives. The movement is very brainwashing and dangerous. I even knew someone from a Christian background who started studying Eastern religions in college (where a lot of new age ideas come from), then became confused and committed suicide, and that's part of why I strongly believe that this movement is nothing to play around with. It can be tricky for unsuspecting people as the NAM makes use of Christian terminology, but mix it with their own terms, resulting in a belief system that contains a mixture of truth with lies, and that paves the way for the enemy to create confusion and blind people so that they can't distinguish between truth and lies, and that's part of what makes it so dangerous. Not to mention the delusional, unrealistic way of thinking brought about by the notion of the Law of Attration, a big thing in the New Age movement which comes across (to me, anyway) as thinking of something you want (usually something frivolous), and like magic, it's yours. And of course, as the OP states, it deals with meditation, but it is starkly different from the way the Bible says to meditate. It involves emptying in the mind, and that too is a very harmful. It's difficult to explain all in one post.

Here are some hopefully helpful links about Biblical Christian meditation, and how it contrasts with that based on the Eastern religions used by the NAM. The difference is very clear.

7 Ways Christian Meditation Differs From Eastern Religions

Is Eastern meditation similar to Biblical meditation?

10 Ways to Effectively Practice Biblical Meditation

All that said, I leave you with Philippians 4:8, for starters:

"Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy--meditate on these things."
 
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Hello, fellow Christians! I am glad to join this forum and hope to find wisdom and good friends here. I am born again Christian, God saved me from a new age delusions couple of months ago. I am very grateful for what Jesus had done in my life. As I have good experience in meditation and mindfulness practices I am interested in what is the Christian view on those? Meditation clearly had some benefits for me when I used to practice it. I had more control over my emotions and thoughts, it helped me focus and calmness. However, after God saved me I stopped doing those practices. What are the Christian alternatives to get the benefits of meditation and mindfulness? Can we, as Christians still practice these without involving the spiritual part of it? As I stopped meditation, seems like all my depression and struggles came back. It is getting harder to control my negative thoughts and emotions take control over me as they used to do in the past. Prayer helps me at the moment but it does not have a long-lasting effect after I am finished with a prayer. Please, provide me with good alternatives and wisdom from the scriptures to battle my anxiety, depression and negative emotions. God bless you all!

Ponder/ruminate/meditate over His Word..
Psalm 119:148 NKJV
[148] My eyes are awake through the night watches, That I may meditate on Your word.

1 Peter 2:2-3 NKJV
[2] as newborn babes, desire the pure milk of the word, that you may grow thereby, [3] if indeed you have tasted that the Lord is gracious.

The East dwells in an impersonal silence, whereas we as Christians have indwelling in us the Personal Word...

John 1:1 NKJV
[1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Genesis 1:3 NKJV
[3] Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light.

2 Corinthians 4:6 NKJV
[6] For it is the God who commanded light to shine out of darkness, who has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.


DON'T FALL FOR THE CHRISTIAN CONTEMPLATIVE PRAYER MOVEMENT where you attempt at peace through centering on one word or a small phrase, it's just disguised Hinduism.
 
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When searching for truth, one cannot be searching for falsehood at same time. It is unwise to say that Hinduism, new age etc.... are wrong and therefore we have to look at what they do and make sure we dont do it....lest we be wrong as well.

Jesus exclaimed to Take no thought for tomorrow, what you will eat drink clothes etc... Before going before the Lord We have to remove our shoes......the upper room was fully furnished.....so I needed not to bring anything.....to hear a still small voice, I must be quite.

I Believe many will miss out because they are more worried about doing what it wrong, than they are about doing what it right.

Before knowing that God is with me.....I must first be willing to walk through the valleys of the shadows of death. But this is not a path for many.
 
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Hello, fellow Christians! I am glad to join this forum and hope to find wisdom and good friends here. I am born again Christian, God saved me from a new age delusions couple of months ago. I am very grateful for what Jesus had done in my life. As I have good experience in meditation and mindfulness practices I am interested in what is the Christian view on those? Meditation clearly had some benefits for me when I used to practice it. I had more control over my emotions and thoughts, it helped me focus and calmness. However, after God saved me I stopped doing those practices. What are the Christian alternatives to get the benefits of meditation and mindfulness? Can we, as Christians still practice these without involving the spiritual part of it? As I stopped meditation, seems like all my depression and struggles came back. It is getting harder to control my negative thoughts and emotions take control over me as they used to do in the past. Prayer helps me at the moment but it does not have a long-lasting effect after I am finished with a prayer. Please, provide me with good alternatives and wisdom from the scriptures to battle my anxiety, depression and negative emotions. God bless you all!
Hi yes you should meditate but not how the Eastern way's have taught to empty yourselves why even when you sleep God does not turn off your brain He designed with a subconscious that runs all night. When say your are anxious and you take time to meditate how about meditating on something very specific like memorized scriptures that are promises of God to you. 6 Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; 7 and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.

In this verse you can open your heart wide to the LORD and tell him you are anxious. You can start to pray at the root of the problem. in this calling it is mixed with thanksgiving as I have found that when I remember to whom I am praying the list of things I am reminded of is a great list of blessings to me. I think oh God how I know you love me....This already is a comfort; I know you have been mercififul to me and have kept me thus far. Thanks you for wanting me and caring for me. Today I am troubled and i ought not be as i know you are in control. My problem is this and I call upon your name to steady my heart and remind me of what it important. .....As I start down this path my heart begins to trust the LORD and my situation gets put in its ballance. Sometimes the problem is quite large and wont just go away but this kind of meditation makes the peace of God larger than the problem at hand and I can face it and endure it where I might not before. if you empty your head you are opening yourself to foreign spirits who will fill that void. All cults who teach obtaining a spriit guide that is a willing demonic possession begin with teaching you to meditate as you have been doing. The alert state to the Alpha state can be relaxiing that is what happens when you watch TV and it has been used to influence the culture down the tubes. i would run from that false peace and use every moment to meditate biblically by sharp focus to God rather than be empty headed. Your benefits you found were a false peace based on false promises that will lead to a false christ and doctrine.
 
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I don't think we should be afraid of counting numbers or breathing for relaxation. This is like a very general exercise, like one of the variety of exercises you'd do to ease a body, but for the mind. It gets dangerous when you do something like Buddhist chants, or listening to music from other religions. I don't know why people assume we can actually empty our minds.

I doubt Buddhists can accomplish such a big thing unless they got into a deep meditation. I used to be a Buddhist and the meditations felt completely different because I wasn't thinking about Jesus at all. I can feel God's influence very easily when I wait for it. God guides us all the time when we work for example, so to assume he wouldn't protect us from a dangerous aimlessness isn't right I don't think.

The best way to meditate is probably on his word though or in a prayer. When we pray we do it too quick, or we talk too much. If we want God's wisdom we have to remember how he values patience. Many people got their promises from God filled after a long time of waiting. Elijah and Jesus would pray for hours and hours. And they probably did their praying slowly, waiting for God to spark their wisdom, or to speak directly.

The more you read and understand the Bible the more rewarding meditation will feel. Because then you'll understand the style of God's speech and all the things he cares about. You'll learn more and you'll find more faith.
 
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What does Philipians 4:8 say?

"Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are honest, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is any praise, exercise yourselves in these things."

My favorite pastor is into yoga. Probably because she values taking care of herself. There's no law against that.
 
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This is a very important insight indeed. In Eastern meditation, you are experiencing the death of the ego. You sort of lose yourself in the infinite void. You become empty and sense of the self is lost. You disappear in nothingness. This is what they call Enlightenment when this state becomes permanent. This is a very dangerous state to be in from my experience. I am still struggling with depersonalization issues after coming back from those delusions. I almost died - it literally feels like dying. God saved me and showed me the Truth of Jesus Christ. In Christianity, you don't disappear in infinity. On contrary, you are in a personal relationship with a personal God. So much different! But my problem is all those negative emotions and thoughts I killed and borrowed with meditation now backlashed and flood me again after I left the meditation practice. It is very hard to withstand all this now.
As a new believer the voice in your head saying "dont do this" is what God gives you to aid in discernment. If you get a bad feeling about something it is a good idea to avoid it. Christianity is like having a bath where you go in dirty and come out cleaner. Nobody takes a shower to have a bath and likewise nobody enters Christianity already clean but begins the slow process of enjoying the bath and cleaning up slowly.

As with anything on the net, there is a great deal of hype and misinformation written by somebody interested in filling up a webpage space with a page of writing accurate or not. Searching for unusual topics can turn up some crazy results and can be confusing. Even sites that say they are christian may or may not be reliable and should not be believed initially unless they are credible sources or the information concurs with many other Christian sources and scholarly documents and the Bible. Being guided by individual random webpages on how to be a Christian with regard to X topic is not the best plan..
 
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This is a very important insight indeed. In Eastern meditation, you are experiencing the death of the ego. You sort of lose yourself in the infinite void. You become empty and sense of the self is lost. You disappear in nothingness. This is what they call Enlightenment when this state becomes permanent. This is a very dangerous state to be in from my experience. I am still struggling with depersonalization issues after coming back from those delusions. I almost died - it literally feels like dying. God saved me and showed me the Truth of Jesus Christ. In Christianity, you don't disappear in infinity. On contrary, you are in a personal relationship with a personal God. So much different! But my problem is all those negative emotions and thoughts I killed and borrowed with meditation now backlashed and flood me again after I left the meditation practice. It is very hard to withstand all this now.

You are more likely to find "death of the self" imagery in Christianity than Buddhism. Buddhists do not believe the self dies because they believe there is no self to begin with. They believe the concept of the self is merely a convention.

Western people have more brittle egos and do not always have the proper cultural/religious context to understand Buddhism, and especially Buddhist meditation, on its own terms. Mental health issues are a sign of improper guidance and instruction.

Thomas Merton is a good example of a Christian who was familiar both with the Christian contemplative tradition and also Buddhism. He's was a very influential religious figure in the 50's and 60's.
 
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