7-year old 'punished' to death, allegedly for not memorizing Bible verses

K9Buck said:

It wasn't a difficult question. Do you support abortion?

Click to expand...

No. I don't support abortion. But I do believe that there are cases where terminating a pregnancy might be necessary for health and safety issues. And I would rather live where the law permits women that agency instead of forcing them into back alleys or DIY abortions where there is immense risk. The means toward curbing abortion isn't about making all abortion illegal regardless of context and circumstance, but about improving living conditions, providing adequate healthcare and social services to women and children, better sex education. I would rather we work toward improving things in our society so that we can reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies altogether, and so that women who get pregnant aren't forced into a situation where abortion seems like the only solution. Better maternity leave laws, better welfare programs, social safety nets, programs to help and aid minority and underprivileged women and children, etc.

Want to reduce abortions, not just push abortions into the back alleys? Then address and fix the underlying social issues that promote abortion.

Don't tell me that you are pro-life just because you are anti-abortion; that's lazy and ridiculous. Pro-life doesn't end at birth, it means actually promoting the life, health, and well-being of other human persons in our communities. Want to be pro-life? Then don't support policies and programs that encourage and promote violence, especially violence against the poor, the weak, and the least of these. Want to be pro-life? Then don't support the death penalty, don't support needless war, don't support wasteful military spending that could be better used to actually improve the life of your fellow neighbors and citizens. Use your voice to actually speak out in favor of justice and mercy, as God commands: "He has told you, O mortal, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?"

When we stand before the Throne of Judgment on that Last Day, what is it that Christ our God says to us? He says, "I was hungry" and "I was thirsty" and "I was naked" and "I was sick" and "I was in prison" and "I was a foreigner". For whatever we did, or did not do, to the least of these we did, and did not do, unto Him.

Ask yourself where you want to be on that Day.

-CryptoLutheran

K9Buck said:

Wow. My experience has been diametrically opposite of yours.

Click to expand...

I recommend that you get out more.

-CryptoLutheran

ViaCrucis said:

I recommend that you get out more. -CryptoLutheran

Click to expand...

Yea, your belief that the "right" attacks Christianity more than the "left" is not rooted in reality. Answer me this. Which major American political party booed God at its national convention? I'll wait.

ViaCrucis said:

No. I don't support abortion. But I do believe that there are cases where terminating a pregnancy might be necessary for health and safety issues. And I would rather live where the law permits women that agency instead of forcing them into back alleys or DIY abortions where there is immense risk. The means toward curbing abortion isn't about making all abortion illegal regardless of context and circumstance, but about improving living conditions, providing adequate healthcare and social services to women and children, better sex education. I would rather we work toward improving things in our society so that we can reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies altogether, and so that women who get pregnant aren't forced into a situation where abortion seems like the only solution. Better maternity leave laws, better welfare programs, social safety nets, programs to help and aid minority and underprivileged women and children, etc.

Want to reduce abortions, not just push abortions into the back alleys? Then address and fix the underlying social issues that promote abortion.

Don't tell me that you are pro-life just because you are anti-abortion; that's lazy and ridiculous. Pro-life doesn't end at birth, it means actually promoting the life, health, and well-being of other human persons in our communities. Want to be pro-life? Then don't support policies and programs that encourage and promote violence, especially violence against the poor, the weak, and the least of these. Want to be pro-life? Then don't support the death penalty, don't support needless war, don't support wasteful military spending that could be better used to actually improve the life of your fellow neighbors and citizens. Use your voice to actually speak out in favor of justice and mercy, as God commands: "He has told you, O mortal, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?"

When we stand before the Throne of Judgment on that Last Day, what is it that Christ our God says to us? He says, "I was hungry" and "I was thirsty" and "I was naked" and "I was sick" and "I was in prison" and "I was a foreigner". For whatever we did, or did not do, to the least of these we did, and did not do, unto Him.

Ask yourself where you want to be on that Day.

-CryptoLutheran

Click to expand...

I oppose abortion in all cases except in the extraordinarily rare case that the mother's life is in danger. My gut tells me that you support a woman's "right" to abort her child.

K9Buck said:

Yea, your belief that the "right" attacks Christianity more than the "left" is not rooted in reality. Answer me this. Which major American political party booed God at its national convention? I'll wait.

Click to expand...

None that I'm aware.

Nobody "booed God" at the DNC. FACT CHECK: Charlotte Hospitality

However ministers quoting Scripture were booed by conservatives at a religious liberty conference. Ministers interrupt Sessions and are removed from religious freedom conference

-CryptoLutheran

K9Buck said:

I oppose abortion in all cases except in the extraordinarily rare case that the mother's life is in danger. My gut tells me that you support a woman's "right" to abort her child.

Click to expand...

I believe that there are cases where terminating a pregnancy is necessary because of health dangers. I think terminating a pregnancy purely out of convenience is morally reprehensible--but I don't think the majority of abortions are for that reason. I think most abortions are the result of women being terrified and feeling like it's the only way out; and this gets even more messy when we introduce rape and incest into the equation.

I think nuance matters, especially when it comes to deeply complex and convoluted moral issues.

-CryptoLutheran

ViaCrucis said:

None that I'm aware.

Nobody "booed God" at the DNC. FACT CHECK: Charlotte Hospitality

However ministers quoting Scripture were booed by conservatives at a religious liberty conference. Ministers interrupt Sessions and are removed from religious freedom conference

-CryptoLutheran

Click to expand...

Start at 1:45. Probably half the Democratic delegates voted "no" in keeping God as a part of the Democratic platform and in recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Thereafter they booed.

ViaCrucis said:

I think terminating a pregnancy purely out of convenience is morally reprehensible--but I don't think the majority of abortions are for that reason. I think most abortions are the result of women being terrified and feeling like it's the only way out; and this gets even more messy when we introduce rape and incest into the equation.

Click to expand...

Most abortions are done after a woman chose to engage in sex and then decided she didn't want to deal with the consequence of her choice, which is the creation of her own offspring. Therefore, rather than see the pregnancy through and put the child up for adoption, they choose to kill their offspring.

K9Buck said:

Start at 1:45. Probably half the Democratic delegates voted "no" in keeping God as a part of the Democratic platform and in recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Thereafter they booed.

Click to expand...

Yeah, they voted no on the amendment to the Democratic platform; and when it passed, many expressed their dislike of the decision.

I'm a Christian and I would have voted no as well, not out of a disdain for my God and King or my religion--but out of my objection to politicizing my religion. The issue of Jerusalem is an entirely and altogether irrelevant issue here, the modern state of Israel has no religious significance in Christianity.

Why would I, as a Christian, want my religion to be politicized as an instrument for ANY political party or organization? Why would I want to compromise my religion by letting the State get its hands on it?

-CryptoLutheran

ViaCrucis said:

Yeah, they voted no on the amendment to the Democratic platform; and when it passed, many expressed their dislike of the decision.

I'm a Christian and I would have voted no as well, not out of a disdain for my God and King or my religion--but out of my objection to politicizing my religion. The issue of Jerusalem is an entirely and altogether irrelevant issue here, the modern state of Israel has no religious significance in Christianity.

Why would I, as a Christian, want my religion to be politicized as an instrument for ANY political party or organization? Why would I want to compromise my religion by letting the State get its hands on it?

-CryptoLutheran

Click to expand...

Much of the left is atheistic. That's why they oppose the concept of "God" being a part of the Democratic platform.
Why would you want to be a part of a political party that wants to exclude God and his commandments from their platform?

K9Buck said:

Much of the left is atheistic.

Click to expand...

As is much of the right.

That's why they oppose the concept of "God" being a part of the Democratic platform.

Click to expand...

Unsubstantiated projection on your part. I was pretty clear about my own objections AS A CHRISTIAN in my previous comment. You apparently have chosen to just ignore that in order to just trip over yourself continuing your false narrative.

Why would you want to be a part of a political party that wants to exclude God and his commandments from their platform?

Click to expand...

I'm not part of any political party. But to flip the question, why would I want to be part of a political party that wants to use God as a meaningless partisan tactic, or use the superficial veneer of religion in order to oppose the actual commandments of God as we have received them from Jesus Christ?

No political party has my political allegiance, my allegiance is to Jesus Christ. As such when I vote or otherwise use my voice politically it is rooted in the values, conscience, and principles of faith which I have received as a disciple of Jesus Christ--and that is why I simply cannot, and will not, be party to political machinery that is inherently contrary to Christ. As a resident of a country in which democratic republicanism offers people some measure of political voice and power, it is my duty as a Christian to use that opportunity to serve the good of my neighbor. To promote justice, peace, and mercy. It is not an opportunity to forfeit my soul in order to gain the whole world.

Iesous Christos Kurios

-CryptoLuthearn

ViaCrucis said:

I simply cannot, and will not, be party to political machinery that is inherently contrary to Christ.

Click to expand...

Is abortion contrary to Christ?

K9Buck said:

Is abortion contrary to Christ?

Click to expand...

I've already been clear about where I stand on that issue and I'm not going to repeat myself.

So instead I'm just going to flip the question:

Is hurting the poor and the hungry in line with Christ?

-CryptoLutheran

ViaCrucis said:

I've already been clear about where I stand on that issue and I'm not going to repeat myself.

Click to expand...

Not really, but that's fine. Claiming to be a Christian while supporting infantacide isn't easy.

K9Buck said:

Not really, but that's fine. Claiming to be a Christian while supporting infantacide isn't easy.

Click to expand...

We're done. Have a nice night.

-CryptoLutheran

Neostarwcc said:

Sometimes with rapes and murders it takes a while for cops to deal with it because they have to make 100% sure that the suspect actually commited the crime in question. Maybe there wasn't enough evidence a year ago to convict them and they spent a year gathering evidencw? Who knows? I'm just glad that they're being tried right now because its just so horrible.

Click to expand...

It also often takes time to determine what law was broken.

K9Buck said:

Not really, but that's fine. Claiming to be a Christian while supporting infantacide isn't easy.

Click to expand...

You mustn't be finding it easy then when, according to the bible you believe in, says that the god you also believe in ordered every Amalekite child and infant to be slaughtered.

Par5 said:

You mustn't be finding it easy then when, according to the bible you believe in, says that the god you also believe in ordered every Amalekite child and infant to be slaughtered.

Click to expand...

Yea, GOD ordering it is altogether different than you or I doing so.

K9Buck said:

Yea, GOD ordering it is altogether different than you or I doing so.

Click to expand...

No need to tell me. I'm well aware of the double standard that some Christians apply when it comes to things like infanticide and genocide.

If you feel called to sacrifice your child, shouldnt you at least do it with a heavy heart, like Abraham?