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So I posted a thread about Two Doctrines ending up at the same place. IE amil and premill both believing Gog is about to surround Jerusalem and God will destroy him with fire from Heaven.

Two Theologies end up at the Same place ....Weird

Amill believe we are in the 1000 years and this is about to happen.

RV 20:[7]And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be loosed from his prison.[8] and will come out to deceive the nations which are at the four corners of the earth, that is, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. [9] And they marched up over the broad earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city; but fire came down from heaven and consumed them,

Now the Premills well the vast majority believe this is about to happen.

Ezek.39[1]"And you, son of man, prophesy against Gog, and say, Thus says the Lord GOD: Behold, I am against you, O Gog, chief prince of Meshech and Tubal;[2] and I will turn you about and drive you forward, and bring you up from the uttermost parts of the north, and lead you against the mountains of Israel;...........................................[21] I will summon every kind of terror against Gog, says the Lord GOD; every man's sword will be against his brother. [22] With pestilence and bloodshed I will enter into judgment with him; and I will rain upon him and his hordes and the many peoples that are with him, torrential rains and hailstones, fire and brimstone.

Then I posted a Thread about the Great Wonder that the AC Does that deceives the world. You know Showing himself to be God or Jesus returned

The Deception that convinces so many

Rv;13:13And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast;

Am I the only one that finds it curious that both doctrines believe that soon fire will come down from heaven. Which by a mere coincidence is exactly the same event The AC Uses to deceive the world and if possible even the elect.

What is even more amazing about this is Paul is very clear this great wonder happens at the AC's arrival

[9] The coming of the lawless one by the activity of Satan will be with all power and with pretended signs and wonders,

Not 3.5 years in not at the end but at his arrival.

In my opinion this can not be a coincidence.
 

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Hello All

So I posted a thread about Two Doctrines ending up at the same place. IE amil and premill both believing Gog is about to surround Jerusalem and God will destroy him with fire from Heaven.

Two Theologies end up at the Same place ....Weird

Amill believe we are in the 1000 years and this is about to happen.

RV 20:[7]And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be loosed from his prison.[8] and will come out to deceive the nations which are at the four corners of the earth, that is, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. [9] And they marched up over the broad earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city; but fire came down from heaven and consumed them,

Now the Premills well the vast majority believe this is about to happen.

Ezek.39[1]"And you, son of man, prophesy against Gog, and say, Thus says the Lord GOD: Behold, I am against you, O Gog, chief prince of Meshech and Tubal;[2] and I will turn you about and drive you forward, and bring you up from the uttermost parts of the north, and lead you against the mountains of Israel;...........................................[21] I will summon every kind of terror against Gog, says the Lord GOD; every man's sword will be against his brother. [22] With pestilence and bloodshed I will enter into judgment with him; and I will rain upon him and his hordes and the many peoples that are with him, torrential rains and hailstones, fire and brimstone.

Then I posted a Thread about the Great Wonder that the AC Does that deceives the world. You know Showing himself to be God or Jesus returned

The Deception that convinces so many

Rv;13:13And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast;

Am I the only one that finds it curious that both doctrines believe that soon fire will come down from heaven. Which by a mere coincidence is exactly the same event The AC Uses to deceive the world and if possible even the elect.

What is even more amazing about this is Paul is very clear this great wonder happens at the AC's arrival

[9] The coming of the lawless one by the activity of Satan will be with all power and with pretended signs and wonders,

Not 3.5 years in not at the end but at his arrival.

In my opinion this can not be a coincidence.
Hi this is a fascinating subject and worthy of consideration. There is some good evidence that this scenario plays out twice once at the time around the tribulation. This is where some place it before the tribulation and others place it as late as the 2nd coming. Either way Ezekiel 39 shows after Gog is wiped out Israel will gather the weapons and use them for fuel for 7 years and it takes another 7 months to gather the dead. This resents a great problem for those who hold to the amil view. For sure the antichrist is destroyed at the coming of the LORD Dan 7 the man speaking pompous words, 2 thes 2 the man of sin revealed and Rev 13 the beast empowered by the dragon Satan all get theirs when the LORD returns. If there is no millennium how can it take 7 years to burn the weapons? We get to rev 20 and see the beast and the false prophet are in the lake of fire for the whole 1000 years that Satan is bound. the nations are not deceived during the 1000 years and will be when Satan is loosed again. This is where Gog comes up at the end of the 1000 years. He gathers an army surround Jerusalem and fire comes down and that is it. In Zech 14 we see the day the LORD is king over all the earth. Jerusalem is being overrun on that day and the LORD fights and comes with His saints. Those killed by the LORD are melted graphically. The Mount of Olives splits in two and the new river flows year round. The nations which are left must now keep the feast of tabernacles or they get no rain. This is showing a continuation of events happening on earth after the 2nd coming. This is the beginning of the millennium and the time when Satan is bound. So looks to me we have a Gog one and a God two at the end of the 1000 years.
 
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