The Dedication of the Altar in Israel.

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Hi parousia,

Why does it concern you? That is Israel`s affair. We should look to our own business as God`s word says.

Marilyn.

If the writer of Hebrews took your advice, the Book of Hebrews would have never been written.
It does seem there are many Christians here who wish that were true.

Here's the reality... these Jews are NOT related to the Ancient Hebrews.

Even they admit their authority comes not from the Law of Moses, Delivered by God, but the Man made, Post Christian Religion of the Babylonian Talmud:

Sanhedrin Appoints High Priest in Preparation for Third Temple

Rabbi Kahane is a prominent scholar, knowledgeable in the complicated laws pertaining to the subject of the Temple Service. He is part of the Halacha Berurah Institute, established by Rabbi Avraham Isaac HaCohen Kook, the first Chief Rabbi of Israel, which deals with the elucidation of Jewish law from its Talmudic sources (Oral Law) and commentaries. He has played a prominent role in all the reenactments of the Temple services performed to date.

They have ZERO Biblical Authority to do this... they are IMPOSTERS, performing "reenactments".

They are ACTORS, Performers.

This is FAKE NEWS, designed to deceive and hoodwink... and apparently many Christians are so eager and hungry for this deception that they even cheer these Christ rejectors on!

"Hey Jesus, I know these people teach against everything you taught but I'm going to support them however I can"

Disgusting.
 
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The rising Sanhedrin released a declaration to 70 nations to be read at the ceremony. n.

And obviously if a group claims to be the Sanhedrin, then they must be the Sanhedrin, even though said group is not the actual governing body in Israel. Also, me and my friends are the First Continental Congress so I hope you're ready to abide by our legislation.
 
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And obviously if a group claims to be the Sanhedrin, then they must be the Sanhedrin, even though said group is not the actual governing body in Israel. Also, me and my friends are the First Continental Congress so I hope you're ready to abide by our legislation.


I was the first man on the moon.
I am also the Rightful King of England.
 
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Personally, I see this dedication of the altar as revealing how close we are to the tribulation. Remember that Israel will start their daily sacrifices early in the tribulation.

Marilyn.
How many people are tired of "ooh look a clue to the end of the world"? What happened to the red cow, or some of the stuff during the dark ages till WW2?
 
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The destruction of the Second Temple was not an accident. Anyone who supports the rebuilding of what God tore down, the erecting of what God leveled, is supporting a cause against Christ. We should not be helping them revert to dead practices, but turn them to Christ for salvation.

This! and Judaism is a false religion, don't be fooled. The covenant made with ethnic Israel has been superseded by a "better covenant."

Yours in the Lord,

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This! and Judaism is a false religion, don't be fooled. The covenant made with ethnic Israel has been superseded by a "better covenant."

Yours in the Lord,

jm

True.

And even better, the covenant was made with both ethnic and nonethnic Israelites, based on faith and obedience, irrespective of DNA.

Genesis 17
12 And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed.

Dispensationalists utterly despise that verse, because it invalidates their racialized pseudogospel from the very beginning of covenant history.

God's covenant criteria of faith and obedience exclusively have never changed.

Spiritual DNA and nothing else.
 
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True.

And even better, the covenant was made with both ethnic and nonethnic Israelites, based on faith and obedience, irrespective of DNA.

Genesis 17
12 And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed.

Dispensationalists utterly despise that verse, because it invalidates their racialized pseudogospel from the very beginning of covenant history.

God's covenant criteria of faith and obedience exclusively have never changed.

Spiritual DNA and nothing else.

Amen.

Gal. 3.16 Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as of many, but as of one, “And to your Seed,” who is Christ.
 
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To all who are scoffing,

We will see, & I believe we wont have to wait long to see Israel, the nation in partial blindness, starting their daily sacrifices again. I personally believe it will be next year.

After the Russian Federation is dealt with by God on the mountains of Israel, (early next year) then Israel will spend 7 months cleansing the land by burying the dead bodies. (Ez. 39: 12) (220 days is 7 months and 10 days.)

Here is my diagram with the relevant scripture.

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THE DEDICATION OF THE ALTAR.

On December 10th 2018 on the last day of the Jewish holiday of Hanukkah, the altar was dedicated. This stone altar is prepared for use in the Third Temple in Jerusalem.

The rising Sanhedrin released a declaration to 70 nations to be read at the ceremony. It was intended as an invitation to the nations to participate in the Temple and receive its blessings.

The altar is currently in the form of loose stone blocks ready to be transported to the Temple Mount and stored in a manner that will enable then to be transported and assembled at a moment`s notice. When complete, the altar will be a square nine feet on each side and five feet tall, and include a ramp for the priests to ascend.

A full-dress re-enactment of the daily offering took place. Meat was roasted on the newly consecrated altar. The priests also performed the grain offerings accompanied with the wine libation.

A large menorah was lit as part of the ceremony. Rabbi Weiss explained that it is fitting that they should invite the nations to the ceremony since Hanukkah is about bringing light to the darkness. The Jews were meant to do this for the entire world, he said, quoting the Prophet Isaiah.

`For He has said: “It is too little that you should be My servant in that I raise up the tribes of Yaakov and restore the survivors of Yisrael: I will also make you a light of nations, that My salvation may reach the ends of the earth.” (Isa. 49: 6)



Personally, I see this dedication of the altar as revealing how close we are to the tribulation. Remember that Israel will start their daily sacrifices early in the tribulation.

Marilyn.
This dedication wasn't a genuine animal sacrifice, was it? Jesus accomplished that sacrifice once for all on the cross. I believe that the people of God is now the church, according to the New Testament. We welcome Messianic Jews and all nations to be part of the international church. I believe that the tribulation is an increase in suffering leading up to Jesus' second coming, when he will raise us from the dead or bring us with him to be given our resurrection bodies and to live in the new heaven and earth.
 
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To all who are scoffing,

We will see, & I believe we wont have to wait long to see Israel, the nation in partial blindness, starting their daily sacrifices again. I personally believe it will be next year.

After the Russian Federation is dealt with by God on the mountains of Israel, (early next year) then Israel will spend 7 months cleansing the land by burying the dead bodies. (Ez. 39: 12) (220 days is 7 months and 10 days.)

Here is my diagram with the relevant scripture.

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Daniel 8 already fulfilled

The shaggy Goat, large horn is Alexander the great
Daniel 8:21 shaggy goat is the king of Greece, and the large horn between its eyes is the first king.

After Alexander the great died, he had no successor, so his kingdom was broken into 4 kingdoms through his generals: 1.) Kingdom of Seleucus, 2.) Kingdom of Ptolemy, 3.) Kingdom of Cassendar, 4.) Kingdom of Lysimachus
Daniel 8:22 The four horns that replaced the one that was broken off represent four kingdoms that will emerge from his nation but will not have the same power.

In the "latter part" of the kingdom of Seleucus, Antiochus Epinphanes became King
Daniel 8:23 “In the latter part of THEIR reign, when rebels have become completely wicked, a fierce-looking king, a master of intrigue, will arise

Antiochus Epiphanes took away the daily sacrifice and trampled God's people for 2,300 evenings and mornings.
Daniel 8:13-14 Then I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to him, “How long will it take for the vision to be fulfilled—the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, the rebellion that causes desolation, the surrender of the sanctuary and the trampling underfoot of the Lord’s people?” He said to me, “It will take 2,300 evenings and mornings; then the sanctuary will be reconsecrated.”

According to the book of Maccabees, from the time that the temple was desecrated until the time of its re-dedication, was 3 years and 10 days.

1 Maccabees 1:54 Now on the fifteenth day of Chislev, in the one hundred forty-fifth year, they erected a desolating sacrilege on the altar of burnt offering.

1 Maccabees 4:52-53 Early in the morning on the twenty-fifth day of the ninth month, which is the month of Chislev, in the one hundred forty-eighth year they rose and offered sacrifice, as the law directs, on the new altar of burnt offering that they had built

How do we go from 2,300 evenings and mornings to 3 years and 10 days?

2,300 evenings and mornings = 1,150 days

the Hebrew calendar cycle is based on a metonic cycle, which means it has leap years (13 months instead of 12 months) on years 3, 6, 8, 11, 14, 17, 19 of the cycle, then it starts over.


According to 1 Maccabees, Antiochus Epiphanes desecrated the temple and persecuted the people from the 15th of kislev until the temple re-dedication on the 25th of kislev. So if the desecration of the temple fell on either year 6 or 17 of the metonic cycle, we would get 2 leap months in addition to the 36 months of the regular 3 years.

so the 3 years and 10 days = 36 months + 2 leap months + 10 days = (38 months x 30 days) + 10 days = 1140 days +10 days = 1,150 days
 
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THE DEDICATION OF THE ALTAR.

On December 10th 2018 on the last day of the Jewish holiday of Hanukkah, the altar was dedicated. This stone altar is prepared for use in the Third Temple in Jerusalem.

The rising Sanhedrin released a declaration to 70 nations to be read at the ceremony. It was intended as an invitation to the nations to participate in the Temple and receive its blessings.

The altar is currently in the form of loose stone blocks ready to be transported to the Temple Mount and stored in a manner that will enable then to be transported and assembled at a moment`s notice. When complete, the altar will be a square nine feet on each side and five feet tall, and include a ramp for the priests to ascend.

A full-dress re-enactment of the daily offering took place. Meat was roasted on the newly consecrated altar. The priests also performed the grain offerings accompanied with the wine libation.

A large menorah was lit as part of the ceremony. Rabbi Weiss explained that it is fitting that they should invite the nations to the ceremony since Hanukkah is about bringing light to the darkness. The Jews were meant to do this for the entire world, he said, quoting the Prophet Isaiah.

`For He has said: “It is too little that you should be My servant in that I raise up the tribes of Yaakov and restore the survivors of Yisrael: I will also make you a light of nations, that My salvation may reach the ends of the earth.” (Isa. 49: 6)



Personally, I see this dedication of the altar as revealing how close we are to the tribulation. Remember that Israel will start their daily sacrifices early in the tribulation.

Marilyn.


But I do think that it is more important that we are also obviously so much closer to the fulfillment of Yom Kippur which I now suspect has something to do with the idea of the Rapture.

Although it is only human to fear the Great Tribulation...... we should also be rejoicing knowing that one of the greatest events of history is now also so close.


Yom Kippur/The Rapture connection?!

Dr. Richard Eby, near-death .com
He paused as though the joy of that thought had overwhelmed him for the moment.

"My Father assures me that the time is yet a little while, but very little. Soon he will call those already in paradise to surround me as we descend from this third heaven to the first heaven around the Earth. The souls of all my saints will be instantly clothed in their new resurrection bodies, as will the living saints on Earth who rise to us in the glory cloud! At the sounding trumpet they all receive new bodies and rise to meet us in the air. We return as my body to my throne room with the Father. Now do you understand why I called this place a temporary abiding place? Do you grasp what it will mean to be one with me and the Father in your incorruptible bodies? My book states that I assumed mankind's sin so you "might be made the righteousness of God' in me!"

I can clearly recall how Jesus' voice paused at this moment. He was savoring an anticipation too intense and private to be revealed. Was he pre-living that moment at which he would enjoy the victory which his Father would give him as the eternal reward for his own long-suffering? His own sting of death would be swallowed up, and he would be the omniscient Head of a completed and compliant body for whom he had shed his blood on a terrible cross. He would reign as KING of the Jews after these days of grace. Then his thoughts returned to me.

"My son, when that time has come, my Father will call to me. The applause of the heavenly hosts will be deafening; they too have been awaiting that day, ever since they announced my birth to the shepherds at Bethlehem so long ago. Scoffers will gaze with fear and wonder as my angelic hosts watch me fulfill my promise to my earthly body of believers at my soon return to Earth.

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35 But some one will say, How are the dead raised? and with what manner of body do they come?

36 Thou foolish one, that which thou thyself sowest is not quickened except it die: 37 and that which thou sowest, thou sowest not the body that shall be, but a bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other kind; 38 but God giveth it a body even as it pleased him, and to each seed a body of its own.

39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one [flesh] of men, and another flesh of beasts, and another flesh of birds, and another of fishes.

40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the [glory] of the terrestrial is another.

41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differeth from another star in glory.

42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: 43 it is sown in dishonor; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: 44 it is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual [body].

45 So also it is written, The first man Adam became a living soul. The last Adam [became] a life-giving spirit.

46 Howbeit that is not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; then that which is spiritual.

47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is of heaven.

48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.

49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

51 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We all shall not sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

54 But when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

55 O death, where is thy victory? O death, where is thy sting?

56 The sting of death is sin; and the power of sin is the law: 57 but thanks be to God, who giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

58 Wherefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labor is not vain in the Lord.
 
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This dedication wasn't a genuine animal sacrifice, was it? Jesus accomplished that sacrifice once for all on the cross. I believe that the people of God is now the church, according to the New Testament. We welcome Messianic Jews and all nations to be part of the international church. I believe that the tribulation is an increase in suffering leading up to Jesus' second coming, when he will raise us from the dead or bring us with him to be given our resurrection bodies and to live in the new heaven and earth.
"Not All the Blood of Beasts"
by Isaac Watts, 1674-1748

1. Not all the blood of beasts
On Jewish altars slain
Could give the guilty conscience peace
Or wash away the stain.

2. But Christ, the heavenly Lamb,
Takes all our sins away;
A sacrifice of nobler name
And richer blood than they.

3. My faith would lay her hand
On that dear head, of Thine
While like a penitent I stand
And there confess my sin.

4. My soul looks back to see
The burden Thou didst bear
When hanging on the cursed tree
And knows her guilt was there.

5. Believing, we rejoice
To see the curse remove;
We bless the Lamb with cheerful voice
And sing His bleeding love.

The Lutheran Hymnal
Hymn #156
Text: Heb. 10:4
Author: Isaac Watts, 1709
Composer: William Daman, 1579
Tune: "Southwell"
1st Published in: _Psalter
 
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Daniel 8 already fulfilled

The shaggy Goat, large horn is Alexander the great
Daniel 8:21 shaggy goat is the king of Greece, and the large horn between its eyes is the first king.

After Alexander the great died, he had no successor, so his kingdom was broken into 4 kingdoms through his generals: 1.) Kingdom of Seleucus, 2.) Kingdom of Ptolemy, 3.) Kingdom of Cassendar, 4.) Kingdom of Lysimachus
Daniel 8:22 The four horns that replaced the one that was broken off represent four kingdoms that will emerge from his nation but will not have the same power.

In the "latter part" of the kingdom of Seleucus, Antiochus Epinphanes became King
Daniel 8:23 “In the latter part of THEIR reign, when rebels have become completely wicked, a fierce-looking king, a master of intrigue, will arise

Antiochus Epiphanes took away the daily sacrifice and trampled God's people for 2,300 evenings and mornings.
Daniel 8:13-14 Then I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to him, “How long will it take for the vision to be fulfilled—the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, the rebellion that causes desolation, the surrender of the sanctuary and the trampling underfoot of the Lord’s people?” He said to me, “It will take 2,300 evenings and mornings; then the sanctuary will be reconsecrated.”

According to the book of Maccabees, from the time that the temple was desecrated until the time of its re-dedication, was 3 years and 10 days.

1 Maccabees 1:54 Now on the fifteenth day of Chislev, in the one hundred forty-fifth year, they erected a desolating sacrilege on the altar of burnt offering.

1 Maccabees 4:52-53 Early in the morning on the twenty-fifth day of the ninth month, which is the month of Chislev, in the one hundred forty-eighth year they rose and offered sacrifice, as the law directs, on the new altar of burnt offering that they had built

How do we go from 2,300 evenings and mornings to 3 years and 10 days?

2,300 evenings and mornings = 1,150 days

the Hebrew calendar cycle is based on a metonic cycle, which means it has leap years (13 months instead of 12 months) on years 3, 6, 8, 11, 14, 17, 19 of the cycle, then it starts over.


According to 1 Maccabees, Antiochus Epiphanes desecrated the temple and persecuted the people from the 15th of kislev until the temple re-dedication on the 25th of kislev. So if the desecration of the temple fell on either year 6 or 17 of the metonic cycle, we would get 2 leap months in addition to the 36 months of the regular 3 years.

so the 3 years and 10 days = 36 months + 2 leap months + 10 days = (38 months x 30 days) + 10 days = 1140 days +10 days = 1,150 days


Now, Now.....Let's not bring Historical and Biblical facts into this discussion...

This is about wild and fancy SPECULATION.

Facts and evidence do not belong here.
 
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I was the first man on the moon.
I am also the Rightful King of England.

Oh.. and I'm also the Grand Poobah of the Loyal order of Water Buffalo, Imperial Potentate of the Shriners, Royal Patron of the Order of Amaranth & High Priest of All Global and extra Global Religions.

Indeed I am the Kohen Gadol of All Israel, and no one can prove otherwise.

Let's get to building my temple, shall we?
 
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To all who are scoffing,
After the Russian Federation is dealt with by God on the mountains of Israel, (early next year) then Israel will spend 7 months cleansing the land by burying the dead bodies. (Ez. 39: 12) (220 days is 7 months and 10 days.)

Here is my diagram with the relevant scripture.
I had heard that is about how long it took to clear Jerusalem and Judea of all the bodies of Jews after the 70ad destruction of Jerusalem

Matthew 24:19
“But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those, the days!
Luke 21:
22 “For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
23 “But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days!
For there will be great distress in the land and wrath upon this people.


The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD

.........The day on which Titus encompassed Jerusalem, was the feast of the Passover. At this season multitudes came up from all the surrounding country, and from distant parts, to keep the festival and the city was at this time crowded with Jewish strangers,...........

Meanwhile the horrors of famine grew still more melancholy and afflictive.
The Jews, for of food were at length compelled to eat their belts, their sandals, the skins of their shields, dried grass, and even the ordure of oxen. In the depth or this horrible extremity, a Jewess of noble family urged by the intolerable cravings of hunger, slew her infant child, and prepared it for a meal

Revelation 9:6

And in those days the men shall be seeking the death, and not no shall be finding it;
and they shall be desiring/yearning<1937> to be dying, and the death is fleeing from them.

Revelation 18:8
Thru this shall be arriving the blows of Her, death and mourning<3997> and famine<3042>
And in fire She shall be being burned, for strong is the Lord God the One judging Her.

Revelation 19
17 And I perceived one messenger standing in the sun, and he cries-out in great voice, saying to all the birds, the ones flying in mid-heaven, "hither! be ye being gathered! into the Supper<1173> of the Great God.
18 That ye may be eating fleshes of kings......[Zeph 1:17/Ezekiel 39:19]

"Where the body/carcass is, there the eagles be gathered" Matt 24 Luke 17-- 70ad and Revelation?

Matthew 24:28

for wherever the corpse<4430> may be, there shall the eagles/vultures<105> be gathered together.
Luke 17:37
And they answering say to him, 'Where, sir?'
and He saith to them, 'Where the body<4983> is, there will the eagles/vultures<105> be gathered together.'
 
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The destruction of the Second Temple was not an accident. Anyone who supports the rebuilding of what God tore down, the erecting of what God leveled, is supporting a cause against Christ. We should not be helping them revert to dead practices, but turn them to Christ for salvation.
I am glad our Lord does't think like this poster: Israel would not have a chance.
 
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