Another Argument Against Flat Earth

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Picture of earth and moon, taken by the Voyager 1 spacecraft.
Weird that we cannot see half the continents AND the Antarctic Ice Wall around the perimeter of the flat earth...

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No, God didn’t recreate the once flat world to be a sphere. This is nonsense. If Adam’s world was flat, ours is too.

God told Noah that He was going to "destroy" violent people with the Earth.Gen 6:13
After Noah landed, God told him that never again would He "destroy" the Earth in a flood. Gen 9:11
God tells us He did NOT spare the old world 2Pe 2:5
God tells us of the Scoffers of the last days who will NOT believe that the world (Greek-kosmos) that THEN WAS was totally destroyed in the flood. 2Pe 3:6

The first firmament, which God called "Heaven" was made the 2nd Day. Gen 1:8
Other Heavens (plural) were on made the 3rd Day. Gen 2:4
The first Heaven was made by God the Trinity. (Elohim)
The other Heavens were made by Lord God the Son. (YHWH) Amen?
 
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Some would reason that it was faked.

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Others like me, just look at the footage and realize the fact the Earth is simply too curved throughout the video, including at low altitude. In other words, a wide angle lens was used.

Also, planet new Mexico looks just great! :smarty: Pardon the humor.
I would love to know where the shot from the left came from, since none of the video or pictures I have found show the logo there. Which calls into question that as 'evidence'.
 
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Picture of earth and moon, taken by the Voyager 1 spacecraft.
Weird that we cannot see half the continents AND the Antarctic Ice Wall around the perimeter of the flat earth...

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Why would you see any of that? Clearly you are ignorant regarding what FEs believe.
 
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I would love to know where the shot from the left came from, since none of the video or pictures I have found show the logo there. Which calls into question that as 'evidence'.
I don't accept that image. However, I posted it because some do accept it.
 
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I don't accept that image. However, I posted it because some do accept it.

The one on the right fits with every picture and video I have found, so I am questioning where the picture on the left came from. I don't see this as evidence that it w as staged.
 
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The one on the right fits with every picture and video I have found, so I am questioning where the picture on the left came from. I don't see this as evidence that it w as staged.
Again, I don't accept it either. Did you read my original post on the topic? I stated that some believe this image proves it is fake. I did not state that I believe this image or that it (the jump) was fake.
 
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You could spend a few months sailing around the world and navigating using "global" maps, you would soon find out.
No kidding. Even back in the 1500s they now how to find the latitude by the stars and the sun. Something that was needed to travel far distances over the seas, on a globe.

Celestial observations support that we are on a globe, and navigators have known it for a long time. Just try to sail across the Pacific using the flat earth model. It will not go well since it distorts the distances.
 
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Some would reason that it was faked.

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Others like me, just look at the footage and realize the fact the Earth is simply too curved throughout the video, including at low altitude. In other words, a wide angle lens was used.

Also, planet new Mexico looks just great! :smarty: Pardon the humor.
So if you think the jump was real and he was up there, if the Earth was flat don't you think he would have said so?
 
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So it's easy for you to understand...

People study mythology. People study what ancient cultures believed about the world, purely out of historical interest. Are those myths true? Do they need to be for people to study them? No.

There are people who dedicate their entire lives to the study of a fictional religion (Jediism) and even the Sith opposite. Likewise, there are people who study the Star Trek universe as if it's real. I'm sure, considering such people, You could could humble yourself and learn what Flat Earthers believe and why?
Exactlly like you said they only have beliefs in something that is fictional. Nothing wrong with that except for the fact there is no evidence for a Flat Earth. Belief in a flat earth is purely a personal opinion not based on any evidence.

Plenty of evidence exists for those who aren't blinded to it. Can I show you? Over time, yes. Will I? I'll think about it. Until I decide, consider researching the topic.
I'll take that as there is no evidence. Sounds like this is just your personal opinion with no facts or evidence to back it up.
I assume it's not a globe. I don't know for certain.

As for scripture, while it doesn't outright say it's flat, it certainly comes close to doing so. It DOES clarify Earth doesn't orbit a giant sun. It also declares the firmament and other than the ice canopy theory (flawed), that's hard to explain on a globe unless you get into "expanse" and assert that other verses (like from Job) are figurative or simply man's incorrect understandings.
Exactly, it's left to human interpretation, Not from the Word of God.
 
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But no actual evidence...
Evidence the Bible supports enclosed cosmogony or a Geocentric model at the very least? Yes, there is plenty of evidence in scripture for that. However, being that you call yourself an Atheist, surely scripture means nothing to you? It's all fairytales? Archaic superstitions?
 
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That's the thing. The "NASA conspiracy" would need to involve:
  • Every space agency and space researcher around the world
  • Every astronomer around the world
  • Every surveyor around the world
  • Every mining geologist around the world
  • Every airline pilot around the world
  • Every long-haul airline passenger in the Southern Hemisphere
  • Anyone who looks at the stars in the Southern Hemisphere
  • Anyone studying medieval or ancient Greek science
  • And more...
Dang! It's bigger than I thought...
 
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Unlikely observable from that height.
He was plenty high up there. He broke the record for highest manned balloon flight at 24 miles above earth. Did you not see the head cam video from his point of view? If the earth was flat he would easily have been able to tell from this high up.

 
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Some have that type of time and did you know what else? Some sailors are FEs. Then again, FEs are also in the military too. It's almost like FEs are just people and they come from all walks of life, eh?

In the time you’ve wasted on this thread, you could have compared distances on a map with travel times etc and discovered that a flat earth is impossible.

Each to their own I suppose.
 
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So what is this "firmament" anyway? Is it a real thing, is it "firm," or is it an unfortunate word choice by the KJV translators?

The firmament or solid boundary of Adam's entire world protected the interior of his small world from the water into which God placed it. With water above and below it, it was totally surrounded by water. Genesis 1:6-8 Adam's firmament was made on the 2nd Day/Age of the creation and God called it Heaven. Adam's Earth was contained inside the firmament and was "clean dissolved" in the flood. Isaiah 24:19 It can be found today at the bottom of Lake Van, Turkey, in the mountains of Ararat under 11k years of volcanic debris.
 
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He was plenty high up there. He broke the record for highest manned balloon flight at 24 miles above earth. Did you not see the head cam video from his point of view? If the earth was flat he would easily have been able to tell from this high up.

Maybe. Maybe not. Furthermore, why would i trust such video footage? It's clear the lens needs to be taken into account.
 
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The firmament or solid boundary of Adam's entire world protected the interior of his small world from the water into which God placed it. With water above and below it, it was totally surrounded by water. Genesis 1:6-8 Adam's firmament was made on the 2nd Day/Age of the creation and God called it Heaven. Adam's Earth was contained inside the firmament and was "clean dissolved" in the flood. Isaiah 24:19 It can be found today at the bottom of Lake Van, Turkey, in the mountains of Ararat under 11k years of volcanic debris.

I find that a rather strange interpretation of the Genesis story.
 
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