911

A Realist said:

And with good reason.

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You don't even know that, because you dismiss these things before you look into it.

Hieronymus said:

You don't even know that, because you dismiss these things before you look into it.

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I can safely dismiss "these things" as conspiracy theories because I have looked into them.

A Realist said:

I can safely dismiss "these things" as conspiracy theories because I have looked into them.

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That's a bit hard to believe when there is so much evidence you can't refute, which paints a very different picture than we get fed by the media.
But of course i don't know where you have looked.
There's usually also a considerable amount of nonsense to be found on line.

I'm not claiming to know what exactly happened or how or why and who was behind it.
But the official story just doesn't cut it.

I think we're supposed to stop this part of the discussion, because it's off topic to the OP and it can only be discussed in the Conspiracy Theory subforum as per the forum rules.

Hieronymus said:

There's usually also a considerable amount of nonsense to be found on line.

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Which is a big reason conspiracy theories get started.

Hieronymus said:

I think we're supposed to stop this part of the discussion, because it's off topic to the OP and it can only be discussed in the Conspiracy Theory subforum as per the forum rules.

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"This part of the discussion" started way back in post #7.

A Realist said:

Which is a big reason conspiracy theories get started.

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No, not really.
It usually starts with people investigating things and sharing their findings.
And then comes the disinfo and the gatekeepers muddying the waters.
At least, that's what i usually see happen.

A Realist said:

"This part of the discussion" started way back in post #7.

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Yeah, i just realized that it's actually against the forum rules.

A Realist said:

That shoe fits pretty good on you, don't it?

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Please clarify what you mean.

A Realist said:

Of course.....but it was an overt act, not a covert act. Look up the term "conspiracy theory".

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Somebody once said that it's foolish to think that everything is a conspiracy, but it's even more foolish to think that nothing is.

Do you really believe that the US government would never lie to the people? And do you really believe that they would never kill American citizens in order to achieve their goals? Ever hear of Operation Northwood? How about the second Gulf of Tonkin incident? Both of those were designed to bring America into a war it had no business being in, and both of those are documented fact.

In Operation Northwood they planned to shoot down an American airliner and blame it on Cuba. As for the second Gulf of Tonkin incident, the whole thing actually never happened but they pretended it did in order to go into Vietnam. And obviously 9/11 gave them yet another excuse to go to war.

A Realist said:

I can safely dismiss "these things" as conspiracy theories because I have looked into them.

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So you've looked at how building 7 collapsed and you then determined that it's perfectly normal for a 47 story steel structure to collapse like a pancake into its own footprint (as though it were a controlled demolition), requiring every single support pillar in the building to lose its strength at the exact same time because there are small fires on several of the floors? Is that what you determined? Or have you not actually looked at the evidence?

Because if it's normal for a building like that to collapse the way it did then I guess going forward all demolition engineers can stop strapping explosives to every single pillar and making sure they all explode at the exact same time, requiring months of planning. All they have to do is start a few small fires and wait a few hours. Right? Who knew? They've been doing it the hard way all this time.

A Realist said:

It sure don't take long for a thread like this to devolve into the realm of conspiracy theories.

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That's because most don't consider that the conspiracy theories are plants and while there may be slivers of truth interwoven the whole thing is a nifty spider web that is meant to incite fear and confusion if you travel down the rabbit hole.

More importantly, if select people had information that is incriminating and the same individuals suggest that others have been assassinated for failing to comply with their plan. I'm left to conclude one thing. If they were able to assassinate a high ranking individual, why are those who lack the same security provisions permitted to live? The puppet master is ever busy. And if you gaze too long at his deceptions you'll be distracted from your industry and the other things you should be doing.

I'm reminded of Christ's words in this matter:

Be wise as a serpent and harmless as a dove and for the sons of this world are more shrewd in dealing with their own generation than the sons of light.

The sons of this world are preparing for the one to come. They are readying themselves and putting things in place. Meanwhile, the other son is devoting his time to debating theories, disputes about politics, and other matters that are so minor in the grand scheme of things. They focus on the macro while the micro goes ignored.