a scripture based look at Daniel 9:

Just The Facts · Jan 27, 2019

Hi Eleos

I appreciate what you are saying. The answer is really neither. Some returned after 70 years while others were not allowed to go back or did not want to in many cases. But how long they were in Babylon has nothing to do with Daniel's Question. You have to understand things for their point of view not yours looking back.

Daniel like every other Person wanted to know if God had forgotten the covenant with Abraham Issac and Jacob.

Jer 33:24: Considerest thou not what this people have spoken, saying, The two families which the LORD hath chosen, he hath even cast them off? thus they have despised my people, that they should be no more a nation before them. 25: Thus saith the LORD; If my covenant be not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth; 26: Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob, and David my servant, so that I will not take any of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob:

So he wants to know when is the punishment over and when the Covenant Promise will be fulfilled. For the Jews Jesus being Born and ruling over the Two Houses of Israel is the Promise of the Covenant. God has stated If Day and Night Stops only then will the Covenant be forgotten.

But they are in violation and are as Daniel clearly states under the curse of the Covenant. That means the promise of the Covenant will not be fulfilled until After the 490 years of further punishment is fulfilled as so clearly written in the curse laid out in Lev 26:. Then and only then can the Promise of the Messiah being born to the House of David be fulfilled.

Hi Of the Kingdom.

The biggest problem with this prophecy is that the Translators mainly Jerome Intentionally mis-translated this chapter to make it better fit their own interpretation of this prophecy.

There are two errors in particular that change the whole answer.

One I have already mentioned it does not say Messiah it say "anointed one"

The second error is just as altering

Here is the verse from the King James.

25: Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. 26: And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. 27: And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Now the Revised Standard

25 Know therefore and understand: from the time that the word went out to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the time of an anointed prince, there shall be seven weeks; and for sixty-two weeks it shall be built again with streets and moat, but in a troubled time. 26 After the sixty-two weeks, an anointed one shall be cut off and shall have nothing and the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. Its end shall come with a flood, and to the end there shall be war. Desolations are decreed. 27And he shall make a strong covenant with many for one week; and for half of the week he shall cause sacrifice and offering to cease; and upon the wing of abominations shall come one who makes desolate, until the decreed end is poured out on the desolator."

Now you can see where the problem is what The Vulgate and the KJV did is move the 62 weeks out of the one sentence and attach it to the previous sentence so they could get somewhere close to Jesus' birth and thus make him the anointed one.

There are three distinct sentences here

25 Know therefore and understand: from the time that the word went out to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the time of an anointed prince, there shall be seven weeks;

The second sentence or statement is

for sixty-two weeks it shall be built again with streets and moat, but in a troubled time.

the Third refers to the 62 week period completely separate from the first seven weeks.

26 After the sixty-two weeks, an anointed one shall be cut off and shall have nothing and the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.

So you can see what they did was butcher this to make it fit their interpretation of this prophecy

25: Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks:

They take the 62 weeks dis-join it from the second sentence and add it to the end of the first sentence.

thus leaving the second sentence as this

it shall be built again with streets and moat, but in a troubled time.

Leaving it as a fragmented sentence

The third sentence makes it so clear that the 62 weeks is a separate time period from the first 7 weeks.

So the the three things are this

1: Seven weeks of years ie 49 Years and Anointed Prince will come
2: for 62 weeks ie 434 years the city will be rebuilt but in a troubled time
3: After the 62 weeks 434 years the line that comes from this anointed Prince will be cut off and have nothing IE no Heir.

The Bible in Basic English translates this properly as does the RSV ironically both multi faith translations that did not allow doctrine to change the translation.

Just The Facts · Jan 27, 2019

Hi Bab

of course I am Christian. I agree there is a new covenant I agree Jesus is the bringer of that Covenant.

I am just saying this prophecy is not about that surly you are not trying to say that every prophecy in the Bible is about Jesus.

The New Covenant can not come until the punishment is over then will God move forward with his promise. And as we all know not in the way The Jews thought it would go.

BABerean2 · Jan 27, 2019

Just The Facts said:
surly you are not trying to say that every prophecy in the Bible is about Jesus.

No. I am saying that. Christ said it in Luke 24:25-27.

The Apostle John said the same thing in the passage below.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Joh 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
Joh 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
Joh 1:6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
Joh 1:7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
Joh 1:8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
Joh 1:9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
Joh 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
Joh 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Joh 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

The Bible is a "Him" book.
The whole Bible is a book about Jesus Christ.

In Matthew 1:1 we find the fulfillment of the whole Old Testament.

Mat 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

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Just The Facts · Jan 27, 2019

Hi Bab

You are taking it out of context there are hundreds of prophecies in the bible that have nothing to do with Jesus.

27 And beginning from Moses and from all the prophets, he interpreted to them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

It is saying Jesus related all the prophecies that were about him to them not that all prophecies are about him, you need to keep things in context.

Douggg · Jan 27, 2019

Just The Facts said:
Side note: the MIS-TRANSLATION of "Anointed One" to say Messiah is perhaps one of the most blatant examples of the Doctrine of the Translator changing the word of God in the Whole Translation out of Hebrew and Greek. The Hebrew Word used in Daniel 9 does not mean Messiah it means Anointed one. The Translator especially Jerome into Latin let their personal doctrinal beliefs influence their translation and thus alter the word of God.

Same thing. Anointeds in hebrew language as applied in the Tanach refers to someone chosen by God. The priests and the kings, for example, were anointeds. Cyrus was an anointed. "the" messiah, however, is a particular anointed.

And because it says in Daniel 9:26, cutoff but not for himself - that is Jesus. Verified by the fact that the temple and sanctuary were destroyed afterward as Jesus has prophesied in Matthew 23.

Jesus was the anointed - chosen by God to be the King of Israel, but was rejected by his own people. The greek word, transliterated "Christ", in the KJV, referred to Jesus as the messiah.

John 4:25 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.

26 Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.

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Christ, being "the" anointed, meant biblically to be the promised King of Israel, descended from King David.

John 12:12 On the next day much people that were come to the feast, when they heard that Jesus was coming to Jerusalem,

13 Took branches of palm trees, and went forth to meet him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord.

Mark 15:31 Likewise also the chief priests mocking said among themselves with the scribes, He saved others; himself he cannot save.

32 Let Christ the King of Israel descend now from the cross, that we may see and believe. And they that were crucified with him reviled him.

Put "Anti" in front of Christ the King of Israel and you have the role that the arch villain of the end times will be in for a short time before he betrays the Jews and the covenant that he will have confirmed for the 7 year cycle a few years earlier.

When he betrays the Jews, in 2Thessalonians2:4, that act is called the "transgression" of
desolation in Daniel 8:13-17. Note, that in Daniel 9, Daniel was referring to the offense of his people as they transgressed the covenant. The arch villain of the end times "transgresses" the covenant because he will be a Jew.

If there is a failure in "doctrine", it is the habit Christians have fallen into of calling the person "the Antichrist" in a broad sense, when the person is only "the Antichrist" when he is in the role of being the King of Israel perceived messiah to the Jews.

When the person commits the 2Thessalonians2:4 act, revealing himself as the man of sin, that will end his time as the Antichrist, because the Jews will not allow him to continue as their King.

The transgression of desolation, an act, is different than the abomination of desolation, a thing an idol, to be setup later after the person enters his role as the beast.

The different roles of the arch villain of the end times are shown on the chart.

They are little horn, then he becomes the prince who shall come, then he becomes the Antichrist, then he becomes the revealed man of sin, then he becomes the beast. These follow the same sequence as the books of the bible, Daniel 7-8, Daniel 9, 1John2:18, 2Thessalonians2:4, Revelation 13, as more and more has been revealed about the person over the course of time.

The Roman Empire in the end times is the EU in its final form.

PATH OF THE ARCH VILLAIN OF THE END TIMES

BABerean2 · Jan 27, 2019

Just The Facts said:
You are taking it out of context there are hundreds of prophecies in the bible that have nothing to do with Jesus.

Why are you trying to ignore John 1:1, and John 1:14?

Who is the seed of the woman in Genesis 3:15, whose heel would be bruised?
(See the link below.)

Heel bone of crucified man
In a stone box, the only trace of crucifixion

Who is Abraham's seed through which all the nations would be blessed in Genesis 12:3?
(See Galatians 3:16, and Matthew 1:1.)

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Just The Facts · Jan 27, 2019

Hi Doug

Well actually it does not say "but not for himself"

The most literal translation would be this.

World English Bible
9:26 After the sixty-two weeks the Anointed One shall be cut off, and shall have nothing: and the people of the prince who shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end of it shall be with a flood, and even to the end shall be war; desolations are determined.

As I have stated the KJV and many that have followed have altered the verse through translation to fit their doctrine.

It does not say "Messiah" it says "Anointed One" and lets be clear their is a Hebrew word for Messiah and it is not the word used in Daniel 9: and it does not say "but not for himself" it says "and shall have nothing"

I encourage all to do the research on these two points you will see I speak the truth.

Douggg · Jan 27, 2019

Just The Facts said:
Hi Doug

Well actually it does not say "but not for himself"

The most literal translation would be this.

World English Bible
9:26 After the sixty-two weeks the Anointed One shall be cut off, and shall have nothing: and the people of the prince who shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end of it shall be with a flood, and even to the end shall be war; desolations are determined.

As I have stated the KJV and many that have followed have altered the verse through translation to fit their doctrine.

It does not say "Messiah" it says "Anointed One" and lets be clear their is a Hebrew word for Messiah and it is not the word used in Daniel 9: and it does not say "but not for himself" it says "and shall have nothing"

I encourage all to do the research on these two points you will see I speak the truth.

Daniel 2, Daniel 7, Daniel 8, Daniel 9, Daniel 11, Daniel 12 all end with the same event.
The return of Jesus.

We have overwhelming information and confirmation to know that the anointed cutoff was Jesus. And we have overwhelming information and confirmation to know the 7 year 70th week corresponds to Revelation 6-19.

Just The Facts · Jan 27, 2019

Hi Doug

Daniel 9 does not end with Jesus' return at all it ends with

9:27 He shall make a firm covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the offering to cease; and on the wing of abominations shall come one who makes desolate; and even to the full end, and that determined, shall wrath be poured out on the desolate.

It comes with the destruction of Jerusalem not Jesus return

No you have your overwhelming Doctrinal belief not "overwhelming information and confirmation"

In fact the evidence and Scripture is Overwhelmingly against your position. You are simply deny or ignoring Daniels question and statements earlier in the chapter.

Douggg · Jan 27, 2019

Just The Facts said:
Hi Doug

Daniel 9 does not end with Jesus' return at all it ends with

9:27 He shall make a firm covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the offering to cease; and on the wing of abominations shall come one who makes desolate; and even to the full end, and that determined, shall wrath be poured out on the desolate.

It comes with the destruction of Jerusalem not Jesus return

No you have your overwhelming Doctrinal belief not "overwhelming information and confirmation"

In fact the evidence and Scripture is Overwhelmingly against your position. You are simply deny or ignoring Daniels question and statements earlier in the chapter.

It is in verse 27 and in the previous verse 26 . My comments in brackets

26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end [the 70 weeks] thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

(using your preferred translation)
9:27 He shall make a firm covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the offering to cease; and on the wing of abominations shall come one who makes desolate; and even to the full end [the end of the full 70 weeks, not just the 7 years], and that determined, shall wrath be poured out on the desolate.

KJV
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation [of the 70 weeks], and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

When Jesus returns, he ends the rule of the beast, false prophet, and Satan's kingdom of mystery Babylon the great.

Here are all the timeframes in Revelation, Daniel 7, Daniel 12. Ending with Jesus's return - which end the 7 year (2520 days) 70th week of Daniel 9.

Just The Facts · Jan 27, 2019

Hi Of the New Kingdom

I am not sure if you are still reading.

The Anointed one comes after seven weeks or 49 years. That would be about 489BC So who comes around 489 BC that would be considered an Anointed Prince.

Well the High Priest at this Time was Joshua and after 20 years as high priest this happened.

Zech 6:[11] Take from them silver and gold, and make a crown, and set it upon the head of Joshua, the son of Jehoz'adak, the high priest; [12] and say to him, `Thus says the LORD of hosts, "Behold, the man whose name is the Branch: for he shall grow up in his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD. [13] It is he who shall build the temple of the LORD, and shall bear royal honor, and shall sit and rule upon his throne. And there shall be a priest by his throne, and peaceful understanding shall be between them both."'

So here Joshua is anointed as the First High Priest King of the second Temple Era. This happened around 500 to 489BC. Some suggest Joshua was High Priest from 515BC others say it started in 510BC either way it was after 20 some years that this proclamation was made.

I think it is very safe top say this is the anointed one that comes after 49 years. We very clearly have Joshua being Anointed and starting a line of priest Kings that Lasted exactly 62 weeks ie 434 years. At the end of the 62 Weeks they were cut off and had nothing...... no Crown and not even the office of High Priest.

Hi Doug

I am well aware of the doctrine you are espousing but it is not inline with what Daniel is asking talking about or the answer. There is no one week left with a some 2000 year gap between them. It is man made doctrine in the extreme.

Douggg · Jan 27, 2019

Just The Facts said:
I think it is very safe top say this is the anointed one that comes after 49 years. We very clearly have Joshua being Anointed and starting a line of priest Kings that Lasted exactly 62 weeks ie 434 years. At the end of the 62 Weeks they were cut off and had nothing...... no Crown and not even the office of High Priest.

It is one anointed cutoff, not a line of priest Kings. One priest King would be Jesus.

Douggg · Jan 27, 2019

Just The Facts said:
Hi Doug

I am well aware of the doctrine you are espousing but it is not inline with what Daniel is asking talking about or the answer. There is no one week left with a some 2000 year gap between them. It is man made doctrine in the extreme.

I would call it the futurist view rather than a doctrine.

Of the Kingdom · Jan 27, 2019

Just The Facts said:
I am not sure if you are still reading.

The Anointed one comes after seven weeks or 49 years. That would be about 489BC So who comes around 489 BC that would be considered an Anointed Prince.

Well the High Priest at this Time was Joshua and after 20 years as high priest this happened.

I am definitely interested in your point of view. I meant to clarify that it could be AN anointed, not THE, according to the variant translations I checked. It seems I was too quick to say this "ultimately" would point to Jesus, so you had to waste your effort to point out that I too was jumping to conclusions.

Now you describe a priestly dynasty starting with Joshua, presumably ending at the time of Antipater or Herod the great in 47 BC if I understand you correctly? At that time the extended punishment had ended, so I should see God's blessing on Israel? I want to understand what you're saying so I'm hoping you can clarify what I do or do not understand about this. I reject the "delayed 70th week" theory, and will try to put aside the rest of what I do think about the passage, so I can listen to your whole explanation.

Just The Facts · Jan 28, 2019

Hi Of the Kingdom

Yes you are understanding me. If you take the Decree of Cyrus 536 which Ezra clearly states fulfills the prophecy of the 70 years. Subtract 490 years you get You get 47 BC. It is not that the Covenant promise would be filled immediately just that it could now happen.

That is why Judea was such a powder Keg of People waiting for the Messiah. They knew the 490 years was over and the Promise could be fulfilled at anytime. The NT Scriptures directly talk of how many false messiahs had come and gone.

I think if you read the prophecy as a whole it ends at the end of the 62 weeks then seems to jump back and talk about one particular week.

9:26 After the sixty-two weeks the Anointed One shall be cut off, and shall have nothing: and the people of the prince who shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end of it shall be with a flood, and even to the end shall be war; desolations are determined.

Then it goes on to say

9:27 He shall make a firm covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the offering to cease; and on the wing of abominations shall come one who makes desolate; and even to the full end, and that determined, shall wrath be poured out on the desolate.

It is this verse that has so many confused. Some see the use of the term Wrath and poured out to be conclusive evidence that this is referring to the Anti Christ and the bowls of wrath in Rev. But such use of the term is everywhere in scripture and can not be used as proof to move this verse over 2000 years in time.

If you look at Verse 26 and 27 there are some very telling things that most seem to just brush over.

1: There is not one desolation such as in Daniel 12 for example there are MANY DESOLATIONS which shows that these events are actually happening, at the very least, over many days if not years.

2: The wing of Abominations this statement puzzled me for many years. Then while reading Josephus I read that as a compromise to having a Statue of Cesar in the Temple one of the wings of the Temple was dedicated to honoring the Emperors and rulers of Rome and in Which the Banner IE Standard of Rome was flown and the Wing was decorated with statues of the Emperors of Rome and Roman Generals. Vespasian Statue was placed there in 69AD as was Titus's.

Now read that verse again with this knowledge

and on the wing of abominations shall come one who makes desolate;

The very fact this wing of the Temple had Roman statues and Standards would absolutely qualify it for being named the wing of abominations. The Fact that the two men who would soon destroy Jerusalem Vespasian and his son Titus had their statues there finishes this off this statement very neatly.

It is clear that God has decided that this House Of Judah is not worthy to rule.

Jesus says in very plain language that the Kingdom is taken from them and given to another House/Nation/Tribe.

This really is one of the most amazing things in all of the Bible in my opinion. How God keeps his promise to Abraham Issac and Jacob and David yet abandons the Jews of 1 century AD.

You really cant take this any further without leaving Daniel 9 and going way back to Genesis 47: and the passing of the Covenant promise from Jacob to the 12 tribes, well 13 tribes.

For those who are thinking oh it is British Israelisism no it is not, not even close. I do not believe you can track one tribe to here or there you simply can not, as James says scattered abroad.

So what about this one week well as I said if you read it the prophecy ends at the end of the 62 weeks it states to the end twice in that verse and then seems to go back in time to a particular week when the desolation s of the Temple start. I believe that week is Antioch in 167 BC

This was the start of War and Many Desolations of the Temple, which Daniel is told, will continue until the end of Jerusalem. Here are the dates of the desolation’s 167BC, 162 BC, 63BC, 47BC, 27BC down to 69 AD is the longest as the Standards of Rome and Staues of Augustus where set up in the wing of the Temple and upon the wing of abominations. Tiberius pictures or busts replaced Augustus and were there when Jesus taught in the temple about 26AD.Jerusalem's end coming with a Flood in 70 AD.

Which also matches with Jesus words in Rev 12:

15: And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

Satan tries to destroy God's true Church by casting out a flood of destruction.

Yes I am sure many will say the Woman is not the True Church of God it is Israel or something else. My Answer is Simple A woman is the symbol of the Religion of a People or Nation and a harlot is of a False church.

Douggg · Jan 28, 2019

Just The Facts said:
and upon the wing of abominations.

It is not on a "wing" of the temple, it is metaphorically speaking.

The abominations are (1) the beast person in the temple (2) the false prophet in the temple (3) the image of the beast placed in the temple (4) and after he is cast down to earth, Satan incarnating the image of the beast in the temple making it appear to have come to life.

Just The Facts · Jan 28, 2019

Hello Doug

Wow there is just so many errors in what you are saying there I don't know where to start. You need to read up on the various Emperors and their way of dealing with the Temple. As I said most Roman Emperors did not place statues in the Temple itself I believe only Caligula tried. There were other areas that were not considered part of the actual Temple both Matthew and Luke State the temple had wings. In fact the Greek word used literally means wing.

Douggg · Jan 28, 2019

Just The Facts said:
Hello Doug

Wow there is just so many errors in what you are saying there I don't know where to start. You need to read up on the various Emperors and their way of dealing with the Temple. As I said most Roman Emperors did not place statues in the Temple itself I believe only Caligula tried. There were other areas that were not considered part of the actual Temple both Matthew and Luke State the temple had wings. In fact the Greek word used literally means wing.

I am aware of Caligula's desire.

What I am saying has nothing to do with the historic Roman Emperors and their actions with the temple. I don't know why you think I am trying to make a connection with them and the temple.
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Brian Mcnamee · Jan 28, 2019

Hi there are no mistakes or random numbers in the Bible so there will be significant meaning in the 70 years. Some have correctly showed the direct correlation between the law of the Sabbath rest not being kept and the whole of the law of blessing and cursing being carried out upon that generation. If 70 years were determined that would imply they did not keep the Sabbath rest for 490 years. There are some problems with this in that every 49 Sabbaths they were supposed to make it a double rest and take two years off. But these numbers come up again in Dan 9 regarding the future 70 weeks are determined. I suggest there is more here to compare and contrast. When we get to the New Testament Jesus asked how many times one should forgive his brother. Peter said 7. Jesus said up to 70 times 7 and again this quote often is taught that it just means no limit on forgiveness. But I see it as pointing out to the real judgement that came upon Israel at that time after 490 years. The plea of Jeremiah for them to repent and be restored is ignored. The warning of calamity is not headed and right on schedule the destruction of Jerusalem and the captivity came.
Jeremiah 3 times declared 70 years would be the measure. Daniels knew when the 70 years began and therefor knew when they would end.

‘And this whole land shall be a desolation and an astonishment, and these nations shall serve the king of Babylon seventy years.

Jer 25:12

‘Then it will come to pass, when seventy years are completed, that I will punish the king of Babylon and that nation, the land of the Chaldeans, for their iniquity,' says the LORD; ‘and I will make it a perpetual desolation.

Jer 29:10

For thus says the LORD: After seventy years are completed at Babylon, I will visit you and perform My good word toward you, and cause you to return to this place.

claninja · Jan 28, 2019

Just The Facts said:
Hello All

So lets start at the beginning.

[2] in the first year of his reign, I, Daniel, perceived in the books the number of years which, according to the word of the LORD to Jeremiah the prophet, must pass before the end of the desolations of Jerusalem, namely, seventy years.

So Why 70 years? Does anyone have a scriptural based answer to this first question we must ask if we want to look at Daniel 9 with Scripture as our basis.

Why Was Jerusalem to suffer 70 years? Why not 20 years 40 years? Why 70 Years?

Second which will actually help answer Question 1 what is Daniel talking about here.

[11] All Israel has transgressed thy law and turned aside, refusing to obey thy voice. and the curse and oath which are written in the law of Moses the servant of God have been poured out upon us, because we have sinned against him.

What is this curse that Daniel is talking about that he clearly states is the basis of the 70 years of punishment?

1 possible argument for where the 70 years comes from:

If Israel failed to obey God and his commandments listed in the Law, then He would punish them

Leviticus 26:14-17 If, however, you fail to obey Me and to carry out all these commandments, and if you reject My statutes, despise My ordinances, and neglect to carry out all My commandments, and so break My covenant, then this is what I will do to you: I will bring upon you sudden terror, wasting disease, and fever that will destroy your sight and drain your life. You will sow your seed in vain, because your enemies will eat it. And I will set My face against you, so that you will be defeated by your enemies. Those who hate you will rule over you, and you will flee when no one pursues you.

And, if after these punishments, Israel would still not turn back to God, he would punish them sevenfold for their sins.

Leviticus 26:18,21,23,27 And if after all this you will not obey Me, I will proceed to punish you sevenfold for your sins. If you walk in hostility toward Me and refuse to obey Me, I will multiply your plagues seven times, according to your sins. And if in spite of these things you do not accept My discipline, but continue to walk in hostility toward Me, then I will act with hostility toward you and strike you sevenfold for your sins. But if in spite of all this you do not obey Me, but continue to walk in hostility toward Me, I will act with furious rage against you, and I Myself will punish you sevenfold for your sins

This would ultimately end in Israel being scattered among the nations.

Leviticus 26:33 But I will scatter you among the nations and will draw out a sword after you as your land becomes desolate and your cities are laid waste.

This would also result in the land enjoying it's Sabbath rests, which it did not receive while Israel dwelt there when they disobeyed the Law.

Leviticus 26:34-35 Then the land shall enjoy its Sabbaths all the days it lies desolate, while you are in the land of your enemies. At that time the land will rest and enjoy its Sabbaths. As long as it lies desolate, the land will have the rest it did not receive during the Sabbaths when you lived in it.

Jeremiah prophesied that the whole land would become desolate and serve Babylon for 70 years

Jeremiah 25:11 And this whole land will become a desolate wasteland, and these nations will serve the king of Babylon for seventy years.

Notice, we find both Jeremiah's prophecy of 70 years and Leviticus' punishment of the land enjoying its Sabbaths fulfilled with the Jews going into the Babylonian Exile for 70 years.

2 Chronicles 36:21 So the land enjoyed its Sabbath rest all the days of the desolation, until seventy years were completed, in fulfillment of the word of the LORD through Jeremiah.

So where do the 70 years come from?

Ezekiel is specifically told he is to lie on one side for 390 days to bear the sins of the house of Israel, which equal 390 years worth of sins. Once the 390 days are finished, he is then to lay on the other side for 40 days to bear the sins of the house of Judah, which is equal to 40 years of sins.

Ezekiel 4:4-8 Then lie on your left side and put the sin of the people of Israel upon yourself. a You are to bear their sin for the number of days you lie on your side. I have assigned you the same number of days as the years of their sin. So for 390 days you will bear the sin of the people of Israel.
“After you have finished this, lie down again, this time on your right side, and bear the sin of the people of Judah. I have assigned you 40 days, a day for each year. Turn your face toward the siege of Jerusalem and with bared arm prophesy against her. I will tie you up with ropes so that you cannot turn from one side to the other until you have finished the days of your siege.

This would be a total of 430 years of sins done by the house of Israel and the house of Judah. How many Sabbath and Jubilee years to let the land rest would there be in 430 years?

Each 7 represents 7 years (6 regular years and 1 Sabbath year)
Each 1 represents 1 jubilee year

777777(71 77777771 77777771 77777771 77777771 77777771

77777771 77777771 77777771 7777)

OR

77(777771 77777771 77777771 77777771 77777771 77777771

77777771 77777771 77777771)

How many Sabbath years in the 430 years of iniquity? 61
Leviticus 25:3-6 For six years sow your fields, and for six years prune your vineyards and gather their crops. But in the seventh year the land is to have a year of sabbath rest, a sabbath to the Lord. Do not sow your fields or prune your vineyards. Do not reap what grows of itself or harvest the grapes of your untended vines. The land is to have a year of rest. Whatever the land yields during the sabbath year will be food for you—for yourself, your male and female servants, and the hired worker and temporary resident who live among you, as well as for your livestock and the wild animals in your land. Whatever the land produces may be eaten.

How many Jubilee years in the 430 years of iniquity? 9
Leviticus 25:8-12 Count off seven sabbath years—seven times seven years—so that the seven sabbath years amount to a period of forty-nine years. Then have the trumpet sounded everywhere on the tenth day of the seventh month; on the Day of Atonement sound the trumpet throughout your land. Consecrate the fiftieth year and proclaim liberty throughout the land to all its inhabitants. It shall be a jubilee for you; each of you is to return to your family property and to your own clan. The fiftieth year shall be a jubilee for you; do not sow and do not reap what grows of itself or harvest the untended vines. For it is a jubilee and is to be holy for you; eat only what is taken directly from the fields.

61+9 = 70

For arguments sake, I would say there were 70 Sabbath and jubilee years in the 430 years of iniquity.

Thus, Israel disobeyed God's commands for 70 years of Sabbaths and Jubilees (430 years) where the land was not given rest.

So I would argue that the 70 years of exile comes from Israel disobeying God for 70 Sabbath and Jubilee years. This resulted in the land being given 70 years of rest to make up for the 70 years it didn't rest while Israel inhabited the land.

a scripture based look at Daniel 9:

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