Why are most shooters men?

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Despite some posts that have made such a claim, the OP never said that men are all evil and dangerous. We are simply discussing why it is men who are primarily responsible for mass shootings. What is the cause? How do we stop it?

Asking that is like asking, "Why are most fish wet?"

Men in general are more aggressive and always have been throughout all of history. Just the fact people find this shocking is amusing to me.
 
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Asking that is like asking, "Why are most fish wet?"

Men in general are more aggressive and always have been throughout all of history. Just the fact people find this shocking is amusing to me.
I think men tend to feel one emotion strongly, while women experience a range of emotions all at once. So extreme anger isn't as common for women. Am I wrong?
 
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I think men tend to feel one emotion strongly, while women experience a range of emotions all at once. So extreme anger isn't as common for women. Am I wrong?

That may be true but men in general are more likely to take risks, more likely to endanger their lives for the well-being of others, and they are also more prone to violence. This is the result of a different way of thinking and biology. It is a known fact that women and men's brains function differently and it is also a clear fact that men have tons of testosterone which is linked with increased aggressiveness while women have a lot of estrogen which is linked with being passive and feminine.

That's why "roid rage" is a thing. When men take additional testosterone to perform better in sports, they have an increased amount of pent up aggressiveness. Very common in bodybuilders and strength based sports such as powerlifting and strongmen competitions.
 
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The one thing that connects all these shootings is that the killer was male. In fact, men have been responsible for almost all mass shootings.
per searching the last 80 years. The OTHER thing in common, men, women, boys, girls, was they were on drugs - PRESCRIBED treatment that affected their thinking. Either still on, or recently came off mind altering treatments. (legal treatments, per AMA/USA medical guidelines/protocols.
 
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Asking that is like asking, "Why are most fish wet?"

Men in general are more aggressive and always have been throughout all of history. Just the fact people find this shocking is amusing to me.

Men have always been more aggressive, but men have not been performing mass shootings throughout history. That is relatively recent. My question is why, and how do we stop it?
 
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per searching the last 80 years. The OTHER thing in common, men, women, boys, girls, was they were on drugs - PRESCRIBED treatment that affected their thinking. Either still on, or recently came off mind altering treatments. (legal treatments, per AMA/USA medical guidelines/protocols.
That accounts for many shootings, but certainly not all. It also doesn’t explain why men are more often than not the ones doing this.
 
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Men have always been more aggressive, but men have not been performing mass shootings throughout history. That is relatively recent. My question is why, and how do we stop it?

1 Samuel 18

20Now Saul’s daughter Michal loved David. And they told Saul, and the thing pleased him. 21Saul thought, “Let me give her to him, that she may be a snare for him and that the hand of the Philistines may be against him.” Therefore Saul said to David a second time,b “You shall now be my son-in-law.” 22And Saul commanded his servants, “Speak to David in private and say, ‘Behold, the king has delight in you, and all his servants love you. Now then become the king’s son-in-law.’” 23And Saul’s servants spoke those words in the ears of David. And David said, “Does it seem to you a little thing to become the king’s son-in-law, since I am a poor man and have no reputation?” 24And the servants of Saul told him, “Thus and so did David speak.” 25Then Saul said, “Thus shall you say to David, ‘The king desires no bride-price except a hundred foreskins of the Philistines, that he may be avenged of the king’s enemies.’” Now Saul thought to make David fall by the hand of the Philistines. 26And when his servants told David these words, it pleased David well to be the king’s son-in-law. Before the time had expired, 27David arose and went, along with his men, and killed two hundred of the Philistines. And David brought their foreskins, which were given in full number to the king, that he might become the king’s son-in-law. And Saul gave him his daughter Michal for a wife. 28But when Saul saw and knew that the Lord was with David, and that Michal, Saul’s daughter, loved him, 29Saul was even more afraid of David. So Saul was David’s enemy continually.

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27David arose and went, along with his men, and killed two hundred of the Philistines. And David brought their foreskins, which were given in full number to the king, that he might become the king’s son-in-law. And Saul gave him his daughter Michal for a wife.

Violence has always been and always will be the man's way. Woman's ways are to lie, seduce, and sway. It is just as wicked but not by violence or bloodshed.
 
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1 Samuel 18

20Now Saul’s daughter Michal loved David. And they told Saul, and the thing pleased him. 21Saul thought, “Let me give her to him, that she may be a snare for him and that the hand of the Philistines may be against him.” Therefore Saul said to David a second time,b “You shall now be my son-in-law.” 22And Saul commanded his servants, “Speak to David in private and say, ‘Behold, the king has delight in you, and all his servants love you. Now then become the king’s son-in-law.’” 23And Saul’s servants spoke those words in the ears of David. And David said, “Does it seem to you a little thing to become the king’s son-in-law, since I am a poor man and have no reputation?” 24And the servants of Saul told him, “Thus and so did David speak.” 25Then Saul said, “Thus shall you say to David, ‘The king desires no bride-price except a hundred foreskins of the Philistines, that he may be avenged of the king’s enemies.’” Now Saul thought to make David fall by the hand of the Philistines. 26And when his servants told David these words, it pleased David well to be the king’s son-in-law. Before the time had expired, 27David arose and went, along with his men, and killed two hundred of the Philistines. And David brought their foreskins, which were given in full number to the king, that he might become the king’s son-in-law. And Saul gave him his daughter Michal for a wife. 28But when Saul saw and knew that the Lord was with David, and that Michal, Saul’s daughter, loved him, 29Saul was even more afraid of David. So Saul was David’s enemy continually.

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27David arose and went, along with his men, and killed two hundred of the Philistines. And David brought their foreskins, which were given in full number to the king, that he might become the king’s son-in-law. And Saul gave him his daughter Michal for a wife.

Violence has always been and always will be the man's way. Woman's ways are to lie, seduce, and sway. It is just as wicked but not by violence or bloodshed.

Invalid comparison. The Israelites were waring with the Philistines so the killing was valid. No one was at war with the five women who were just gunned down in the Florida bank.

Perhaps you have had bad experiences with women. My experience has not been that it is not “woman’s ways” to “lie, seduce and sway.”
 
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Except, again, the two sides were waring. He or some other Israelite probably would have killed them anyway.

If you think women are “manipulative to the core” then it sounds like you have had a bad experience.

I haven’t met a man who has shot anyone either other than former soldiers and a police officer, nor have I had bad experiences with men. If you read the OP you know that I have simply posted a thread for discussion based on recent happenings.

Also Cain murdered Abel. The first murder in the history of the world was done by a man unto another man. It's in the nature and if you can't see that then you lack discernment.
 
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In relation to what we are discussing here, I would say most importantly they are taught that guns are tools--they use them for hunting--but that you never use a gun to shoot another human being.
Good point. Unless one is animal rights types then the Amish just become murderers too.

Interesting times.
 
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You might also ask, why do men commit suicide four times as often as women?
I have read that women attempt more but men just choose more lethal methods like shooting and hanging, where as women try a lot of overdoes.
 
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I have read that women attempt more but men just choose more lethal methods like shooting and hanging, where as women try a lot of overdoes.

That is actually correct.

Also women choose the less violent ways to kill themselves. For example they would prefer to overdose on drugs rather than blowing their brains out with a gun.

Many people think that women use suicide attempts more as for a "cry for help" while men use it... to actually kill themselves.
 
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That is actually correct.

Also women choose the less violent ways to kill themselves. For example they would prefer to overdose on drugs rather than blowing their brains out with a gun.

Many people think that women use suicide attempts more as for a "cry for help" while men use it... to actually kill themselves.
Although there are women who do choose more lethal methods.
 
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Although there are women who do choose more lethal methods.

Yes you are right. I should've said "most" to clarify. It all varies but the LIKELIHOOD of a woman choose a more lethal method is uncommon.

Also there's a theory that women are more vain about their looks and appearances and they don't want people to find their dead bodies all mutilated and destroyed while a man does not really care about that.
 
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So now women are not only manipulative, they are also liars. Unless you can show evidence of this, which you have not done, I’m going tobagain say that you have apparently had bad experiences with women.

I’ve know people of both sexes who have been manipulative. I’ve known people of both sexes who have lied.

In any event, we are discussing mass shootings, the vast majority of which are committed by men. Why are they happening and how to we stop them. You raised the example of David as an example that this has always happened but, again, David killed solders from a nation which with his nation was at war. That is different than going in a bank and shoot five innocent women. That is different than shooting two men and a woman in a bar, then another man in his own house (two killed were elderly).



No, I am not overlooking sin. That’s why I opened this thread up for discussion, so people can explain why this problem of mass shootings has recently developed and what we can do about it.


You just want to believe that both genders are the same and somehow we can control what males do by modifying our education of them. Not going to happen.

Men are more violent. Period.

Women are less violent but they are just as evil. Period.

Sex, Lies and fMRI—Gender Differences in Neural Basis of Deception

Here's an actual study showing that men and women lie but for different reasons and women do it at a higher frequency.
 
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You just want to believe that both genders are the same and somehow we can control what males do by modifying our education of them. Not going to happen.

I have never said that both genders are the same, nor have I said anything about education. I am asking why men are causing these mass shootings and what we can do about it.

Men are more violent. Period.

But these mass shootings generally weren’t happening in the past. This has really developed over the last 25-30 years.

Men are more violent? Why do Amish men not cause mass shootings? There has to be an answer someplace.

Women are less violent but they are just as evil. Period.

Sex, Lies and fMRI—Gender Differences in Neural Basis of Deception

Here's an actual study showing that men and women lie but for different reasons and women do it at a higher frequency.

Now you are saying that men and women both lie. Thank you. Now, what does that have to do with mass shootings?
 
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I have never said that both genders are the same, nor have I said anything about education. I am asking why men are causing these mass shootings and what we can do about it.



But these mass shootings generally weren’t happening in the past. This has really developed over the last 25-30 years.

Men are more violent? Why do Amish men not cause mass shootings? There has to be an answer someplace.



Now you are saying that men and women both lie. Thank you. Now, what does that have to do with mass shootings?

I never said both don't lie. I also know there are women who have committed murders. Your arguments are so full of logic holes and red herrings such as, "You must hate women!" instead of directly refuting my points. Women indeed do lie more and at a very high frequency as compared to men. I don't understand why you don't think this is true.

Amish people don't murder because... it's their religion! God tells them to not do it! People today are much more carnal and the rebellion against God and all moral authority is what got us into this situation. There is no fix except a revival.
 
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Not at all. It's the simple and definitive answer. Clearly it didn't help you, so YOU chose to be rude and flippant.

Well, if you think that testosterone is the problem (it's not), then castration would be the only solution.

We men don't want that, and 99% of women don't want that.

So that's unhelpful.
 
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Well, if you think that testosterone is the problem (it's not), then castration would be the only solution.

We men don't want that, and 99% of women don't want that.

So that's unhelpful.
I find your reply to be flip, unhelpful and also inaccurate and uninformed.
 
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