What would influence a city to be vegan?

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Because of how destructive factory-farming is to the environment & our bodies, and how cruel it is to the animals.

There’s more reasons, I’m sure, but those are probably at the top.
Yes I would agree with this. I personally lean towards Pescetarianism which I believe that Yeshua and his followers were. Of course it's hard to do this fully with all the water pollution and I try not to eat farmed fish either, they are probably worst than shellfish.
 
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It's because its hip to be vegan. Just like all of the sudden there are a lot of people who don't want to eat gluten.


Some don't have a choice, and many are finding that giving it up aleviates many gastrointestinal problems. I don't think it's so much 'hip' as a reaction to the GMOs out there.

I personally have Celiac disease and can't eat it unless I want to die. It really is very hard to go gluten free on top of kosher and organic, it's a chore to find food and to eat out anywhere is almost impossible.

I wouldn't say that was very 'hip'. ;)
 
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Actually it is believed that the brother of Yeshua, Ya'achov was also vegetarian.
from History of vegetarianism

Examples of Early Christians

Not a few Christian scholars have concluded vegetarianism to be the more consistent ethic with respect to the spirit of Christ's teachings. For example, we have the Ebionites, Athanasius, and Arius. Of the early church fathers we have Clement of Alexandria, Origen, Tertullian, Heronymus, Boniface, St. Jerome, and John Chrysostom.

Clement wrote, "It is far better to be happy than to have your bodies act as graveyards for animals.

Accordingly, the apostle Matthew partook of seeds, nuts and vegetables, without flesh". One of the earliest Christian documents is the `Clementine Homiles', a second-century work purportedly based on the teachings of St. Peter. Homily XII states, "The unnatural eating of flesh meats is as polluting as the heathen worship of devils, with its sacrifices and its impure feasts, through participation in it a man becomes a fellow eater with devils". Many of the monasteries both in ancient times to the present practiced vegetarianism. For instance, Basilius the Great's order, Boniface's order, Trappists monks, etc. Also, we have the examples provided by the stories around some saints like Hubertus, Aegidius and Francis of Assisi.

Indirect Historical Evidence

Knowledge about how the Essenes, the Nazoreans and Ebionites lived suggests that Christ was probably a vegetarian. The Essenes were Jews who were remarkably similar to the early Christians as evinced in their de-emphasis upon property and wealth, their communal-ism and in their rejection of animal sacrifices. The first Christians were known as the Nazoreans (not to be confused with Nazarenes), and the Ebionites were a direct offshoot from them. All three groups were vegetarian which is suggestive of the central role such a practice once played in Early Christianity.

Paul's need to constantly deal with these vegetarians is also evidence of how prevalent they were and not a few fellow Christians, it would seem, took issue with Paul. Paul, if he is consistent with his words, would have been vegetarian (Corinthians 8:13), notwithstanding his opposition to the Ebionites. According to Clement of Alexandria, Matthew was a vegetarian. Clementine `Homiles' and `Recognitions' claim that Peter was also a vegetarian. Both Hegisuppus and Augustin testify that the first head of the church in Jerusalem after the death of Christ, namely Christ's brother James the Just, was a vegetarian and raised as one! If Jesus's parents raised James as vegetarian then it would be likely that Jesus was also so raised.
 
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Think about Passover. The lamb was slain and the meat had to be all eaten up. But after this the focus is on unleavened bread and herbs.

When they were in the wilderness G-d provided them a fully nutritional foodstuff that would sustain them throughout their travels. Instead they complained and longed for the 'flesh pots' of Egypt. And he sent them bucket loads of quail to eat till they died. Good example for vegetarianism to me. :)

I would say that it might have been Gods plan to return to the Garden of Eden/antediluvial diet when he took them out of Egypt but they were too hard hearted.
 
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Some don't have a choice, and many are finding that giving it up aleviates many gastrointestinal problems. I don't think it's so much 'hip' as a reaction to the GMOs out there.

I personally have Celiac disease and can't eat it unless I want to die. It really is very hard to go gluten free on top of kosher and organic, it's a chore to find food and to eat out anywhere is almost impossible.

I wouldn't say that was very 'hip'. ;)
I know some people have to go vegan, vegetarian, gluten-free, etc., for health reasons, but there are still a lot of people who do it because it is trendy.
 
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Is it because of the desire to return to the Garden of Eden diet?
Is it because of the desire to live healthier?

What would cause this dietary phenomenon ?

Perhaps both, but with today's grotesque handling of meat and dairy livestock, you might include Humane disgust to that list.

I recently found myself explaining to an individual who happens to be a law unto himself, that the laws pertaining to Slaves, were primarily dispensational, showing how barbaric mankind was at the time those pertinent laws were earmarked.

In like manner I see the laws pertaining to eating flesh as dispensational, and applicable to cannibals.
 
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maybe all the feminizing chemicals they put in the water over there are making people act this way.

the additives put in the water in the US literally makes various animals exposed to them turn homosexual, drastically increases amount of frogs and fish born hermaphrodites, etc.
 
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“Gender-bending” chemicals mimicking the female hormone oestrogen can disrupt the development of baby boys, and I am sure the testosterone variety has that same disruptive characteristic for girls. I have often wondered about the fetal ingredients carrying male or female DNA injected by vaccinations also have that hormonal identity awkwardness too.
 
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“Gender-bending” chemicals mimicking the female hormone oestrogen can disrupt the development of baby boys, and I am sure the testosterone variety has that same disruptive characteristic for girls. I have often wondered about the fetal ingredients carrying male or female DNA injected by vaccinations also have that hormonal identity awkwardness too.
Not to mention the amount of soy that has been introduced into the food chain. When I was growing up and babysitting, there were no formulas that were made of soy, now that seems to be all that's been being pushed for decades now. I think that has a great contribution to the gender problems this generation is dealing with.
 
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I found this book on Amazon called Secrets to Health

It talks about a women who went on a journey for better health and found this book called “The Essene Gospel of Peace.” which is claimed to have been translated by a man from ancient documents found in the Vatican.

I found this online and it is strange reading for sure.

The Original Hebrew and Aramaic Texts Translated and edited by
EDMOND BORDEAUX SZEKELY
MCMLXXXI
INTERNATIONAL BIOGENIC SOCIETY

The Essene Gospel Of Peace


An excerpt:
And then many sick and maimed came to Jesus, asking him. "if you know all things, tell us, why do we suffer with these grievous plagues? Why are we not whole like other men? Master, heal us, that we too may be made strong, and need abide no longer in our misery. We know that you have it in your power to heal all manner of disease. Free us from Satan and from all his great afflictions. Master, have compassion on us."

And Jesus answered- "Happy are you that you hunger for the truth, for I will satisfy you with the bread of wisdom. Happy are you, that you knock, for I will open to you the door of life. Happy are you, that you would cast off the power of Satan, for I will lead you into the kincdom of our Mother's angels, where the power of Satan cannot enter."

And they asked him in amazement: "Who is our Mother and which her angels? And where is her kingdom?"

"Your Mother is in you, and you in her. She bore you she gives you life. it was she who gave to you your body, and to her shall you one day give it back again. Happy are you when you come to know her and her kingdom; if you receive your Mother's angels and if you do her laws. I tell you truly, he who does these things shall never see disease. For the power of our Mother is above all. And it destroys Satan and his kingdom, and has rule over all your bodies and all living things.

"The blood which runs in us is born of the blood of our Earthly Mother. Her blood falls from the clouds; leaps from the womb of the earth; babbles in the brooks of the mountains; flows wide in the rivers of the plains; sleeps in the lakes; rages mightily in tempestuous seas.

 
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Not to mention the amount of soy that has been introduced into the food chain. When I was growing up and babysitting, there were no formulas that were made of soy, now that seems to be all that's been being pushed for decades now. I think that has a great contribution to the gender problems this generation is dealing with.
I have heard this been floated around, but with centuries of Chinese eating it without gender issues, I hesitate to believe it really should be blamed. There is more hormones in our food sources because of pollutants, animal inoculations, vaccinations, and mutants by monsanto.
 
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I have heard this been floated around, but with centuries of Chinese eating it without gender issues, I hesitate to believe it really should be blamed. There is more hormones in our food sources because of pollutants, animal inoculations, vaccinations, and mutants by monsanto.

This was my first thought too. Asian cultures have been eating loads of soy for centuries without similar issues. I think it speaks more to the culture than anything.
 
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I have heard this been floated around, but with centuries of Chinese eating it without gender issues, I hesitate to believe it really should be blamed. There is more hormones in our food sources because of pollutants, animal inoculations, vaccinations, and mutants by monsanto.

This was my first thought too. Asian cultures have been eating loads of soy for centuries without similar issues. I think it speaks more to the culture than anything.

One must consider that the Asians are not Caucasians and also that their DNA has been proven to be different in some aspects. Also that soy was part of their diet for much longer than for Europeans and their offspring (Americans).

Soyfoods have been consumed in China for at least 1,500 years and in Japan for 1,000 years.

Some other facts to be taken into consideration:

The soybean (Glycine max), or soya bean, is a species of legume native to East Asia.

Soybeans were introduced into North America in 1765, but for the next 155 years, the crop was grown primarily for forage for animals.

Prior to the 1920 in the US, the soybean was mainly a forage crop, a source of oil, meal (for feed) and industrial products, with very little used as food.

This changed with the involvement of the US in the first WW as well as WWII. Tofu was introduced in Japanese American internment camps during World War II.

And then there's the fact that Asian Soy is pure and that in the States at least is not.

Soybeans are one of the "biotech food" crops that have been genetically modified, and genetically modified soybeans are being used in an increasing number of products. In 1995, Monsanto company introduced glyphosate-tolerant soybeans that have been genetically modified to be resistant to Monsanto's glyphosate herbicides through substitution of the Agrobacterium sp. (strain CP4) gene EPSP (5-enolpyruvyl shikimic acid-3-phosphate) synthase. The substituted version is not sensitive to glyphosate.[115]

In 1997, about 8% of all soybeans cultivated for the commercial market in the United States were genetically modified.
In 2010, the figure was 93%
 
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One must consider that the Asians are not Caucasians and also that their DNA has been proven to be different in some aspects. Also that soy was part of their diet for much longer than for Europeans and their offspring (Americans).

Soyfoods have been consumed in China for at least 1,500 years and in Japan for 1,000 years.

Some other facts to be taken into consideration:

The soybean (Glycine max), or soya bean, is a species of legume native to East Asia.

Soybeans were introduced into North America in 1765, but for the next 155 years, the crop was grown primarily for forage for animals.

Prior to the 1920 in the US, the soybean was mainly a forage crop, a source of oil, meal (for feed) and industrial products, with very little used as food.

This changed with the involvement of the US in the first WW as well as WWII. Tofu was introduced in Japanese American internment camps during World War II.

And then there's the fact that Asian Soy is pure and that in the States at least is not.

Soybeans are one of the "biotech food" crops that have been genetically modified, and genetically modified soybeans are being used in an increasing number of products. In 1995, Monsanto company introduced glyphosate-tolerant soybeans that have been genetically modified to be resistant to Monsanto's glyphosate herbicides through substitution of the Agrobacterium sp. (strain CP4) gene EPSP (5-enolpyruvyl shikimic acid-3-phosphate) synthase. The substituted version is not sensitive to glyphosate.[115]

In 1997, about 8% of all soybeans cultivated for the commercial market in the United States were genetically modified.
In 2010, the figure was 93%
as with all modification of our food sources, the value to our health in the consumption of these items increases our propensity to sickness and diseases.
 
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as with all modification of our food sources, the value to our health in the consumption of these items increases our propensity to sickness and diseases.
Yes, that addresses the latter part of my post but what did you think about the first part?
 
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