Do you have an optimistic or pessimistic view on relationships?

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I know there are many differing views here on relationships. I'm interested in hearing others view on romantic relationships and whether they think they have a negative or positive view regarding them and what impact they think their view has on their romantic life or lack thereof?

I'll start with talking about my current view and my previous one. Generally speaking I'd say due to some life altering circumstances my view which began very optimistic and maybe too idealistic as a child slowly transitioned into a very pessimistic one in which I felt like love and romance was a waste of ones time, and that it is impossible to ever be in an authentic relationship because no one is ever with you just for you, its always what you can do for them. I have never been one to like anything that wasn't authentic and I felt the very idea of romantic relationships, similar to friendships or any association with any other person in this world was all based off of superficial reasons and not based off of anything substantive or meaningful. I based a lot of this not off of any romantic experience but off of previous friendships and experience with people in general. I reached a very low point in my life where I did not really like people in general because I felt like people did not care about anyone but themselves and if this were true and I could easily just be replaced and not mean much to anyone other than what I could offer them then what was the point.

However within the past year or so things in my life started to improve, not materially but just my worldview and the way I felt. I began to not just have a more optimistic outlook on life but also on relationships and people as well. Perhaps you could say I began to see the light that I had not been able to see with all the bitterness and anger I felt because of how unfair life can be. I do think if I had not gone through what amounts to slightly over a decade of just pure darkness then I couldn't have seen the good in life or in people that I currently do. Of course when you have such a dark worldview then it is very hard to function let alone think being in a relationship would be any good for you. I've gone through a lot in my life and feel like I have already lived a whole lifetime unwillingly of course just due to all of the adversity I have dealt with and overcome. I will say though it is nice to be alive again to like people again to believe relationships have value and meaning and that I can have and develop real and meaningful relationships.

I think having a pessimistic view on relationships has a severe impact on the quality of a relationship you can have with a significant other or people in general. But changing ones attitude is not a very simple thing. You just can't wish the negativity running in your mind 24/7 away. You have to see the light and there's no telling when this happens or if it ever will but as long as you keep searching for the truth you will see it I believe.
 

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You're right, you can't change overnight.

So you better start changing yourself now because things take time. Giving more meaning to your life can help improve levels of optimism. One way is by adding value to yourself, learn useful skills, learn a different language, learn to surprise people, etc, etc.

Doesn't matter what your job is. Adding value to yourself can be inexpensive, all you need is just devote time for it.
 
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I know there are many differing views here on relationships. I'm interested in hearing others view on romantic relationships and whether they think they have a negative or positive view regarding them and what impact they think their view has on their romantic life or lack thereof?


I am an optimist and romantic dreamer all the way. I see absolutely no point in being the opposite.
 
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I don't think there's anything wrong with someone wanting to be in a relationship with me -- at least in part -- for what she can get out of it. By that I mean for whatever attributes I might have that she feels might "joy up" her life long-term, make life easier for her, make her feel like she's got someone reliable & desirable to do her days with, and so on. I mean, each person's got to show up at the table with a few things the other person believes has value. Otherwise, why bother? If someone wanted to go out with me but didn't want any benefit for herself, I'd be asking her, "What's the point of this? Why are we doing this?" I'd never want to feel my value to someone I'm interested in is zero, or so small that the relationship had the stink of unhealthy self-sacrifice on her part.

There's few things in life that can make you happier than finding someone who needs exactly what you have to offer, and wants to consume it by the truckload. But of course I'm talking about someone who's emotionally-healthy, happy with who she is, and proud of what she has to offer in return.
 
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I don't think there's anything wrong with someone wanting to be in a relationship with me -- at least in part -- for what she can get out of it. By that I mean for whatever attributes I might have that she feels might "joy up" her life long-term, make life easier for her, make her feel like she's got someone reliable & desirable to do her days with, and so on. I mean, each person's got to show up at the table with a few things the other person believes has value. Otherwise, why bother? If someone wanted to go out with me but didn't want any benefit for herself, I'd be asking her, "What's the point of this? Why are we doing this?" I'd never want to feel my value to someone I'm interested in is zero, or so small that the relationship had the stink of unhealthy self-sacrifice on her part.

The issue wasn't someone wanting me because they believe they can benefit from me or get value from me. The issue was people wanting me just for those perceived benefits alone. Because when those benefits are gone then they will be gone.

No different than a woman not wanting a man who wants her for her looks because once those looks are gone he will be gone.
 
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I get that. I was just trying to widen the scope and throw a little more-optimistic/hopeful light on things. It's one thing to get out of where you are, but it's another to know where you'd like to be, or at least start out with a vague image of it, so you have a goal in mind and a path forward. I was trying to be more solution/future-focused rather than present-problem-focused. I generally approach problems by identifying the outcome (or life situation) I'm after, then mapping a way to get there. In the process of that, the problem typically just runs out of oxygen, primarily because it gets little to none of my attention. Or I should say no further attention from me once I've identified it. Well, in any case, best of luck, and I hope things eventually get better for you.
 
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Okay so we have a fair amount of responses here but it doesn't seem anyone has answered what effect they think their view of relationships has had on their actual romantic life. I'm only asking because I think that those with a more optimistic and inviting view of romance would be more likely I think to either be in a relationship or have romantic relationships develop compared to someone who has a more pessimistic view and perhaps a more closed mindset to the whole relationship thing. So if any of you think your view whether optimistic or pessimistic has impacted your love life feel free to comment. I do think when I had a negative view it made being in a romantic relationship impossible. But once being more positive and open to the idea and people in general I found someone.
 
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People often go around here saying "woe is me, I'm single! I can't handle it!" thinking it will attract attention and MAYBE someone will feel sorry for them and all of that. Except, it often has the opposite effect, making a person seem needy, desperate, and unattractive. If it impacts anything, it impacts the way others view them and they're less likely going to find someone being pessimistic.

If you're happy and enjoying life regardless of if you're in a relationship, then you're more likely to attract someone.
 
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Me being pessimistic does drive people off, but the people I'm pessimistic toward and it bothers them, generally aren't my type anyway.

Somehow, the more selective I am, the more people are attracted to me, though.
 
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Okay so we have a fair amount of responses here but it doesn't seem anyone has answered what effect they think their view of relationships has had on their actual romantic life. I'm only asking because I think that those with a more optimistic and inviting view of romance would be more likely I think to either be in a relationship or have romantic relationships develop compared to someone who has a more pessimistic view and perhaps a more closed mindset to the whole relationship thing. So if any of you think your view whether optimistic or pessimistic has impacted your love life feel free to comment. I do think when I had a negative view it made being in a romantic relationship impossible. But once being more positive and open to the idea and people in general I found someone.

I believe living as God says to live is by far the most important thing to remember. See throughout Scripture all those who lived right, and what happens to them, vs all those who live wrong, and what happens to them.

Malachi 3:16-18 English Standard Version (ESV)
The Book of Remembrance
16 Then those who feared the Lord spoke with one another.

The Lord paid attention and heard them
, and a book of remembrance was written before him of those who feared the Lord and esteemed his name. 17

They shall be mine, says the Lord of hosts, in the day when I make up my treasured possession, and

I will spare them as a man spares his son who serves him.
18 Then

once more
you shall see the distinction between the righteous and the wicked, between one who serves God and one who does not serve him.

English Standard Version (ESV)
The Holy Bible, English Standard Version. ESV® Text Edition: 2016. Copyright © 2001 by Crossway Bibles, a publishing ministry of Good News Publishers.
 
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I know there are good relationships out there, but I feel like giving up on any kind of relationships in general. They are so hard to form and so easy to break. I struggled with feeling like anybody loved me for a very long time, including my own family. I think the depression clouds my judgment and at this point I know that I love my brother, sister, and father, and that they love me. So because of these relationships I know that relationships based on loving each other deeply are real and possible, but I have a hard time coming by them. My struggle with depression and being pessimistic make me very unattractive. I have a permanent frown stuck to my face that I struggle to get rid off. My family was telling me the other day that I look pretty but because of my super scared and depressed attitude and because I don't dress up and just wear baggy clothes that is probably why I almost never get asked out.
 
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I go into a relationship optimistic. I think if someone asks you out or someone accepts your invitation...you are already ahead in the game. Your looks passed the muster. Whether or not they find you one of the "beautiful people", they find you attractive enough to be seen with. I then look for things I find interesting about that person and what I believe life might look like if I build a future with this person. At the same time, I am paying attention to any things I can't live with or if maybe I have traits that he is saying he doesn't want. (I don't believe in changing to get someone to liking me beyond very small things (I learned how to fish, for example) and I don't ask them to change).

I do not believe it is easy to find a match. I am pessimistic on that side but once I have decided to date someone, I am looking to build a relationship until I see a reason that it shouldn't be built. I don't hang onto anyone who isn't a potential mate just to avoid being alone.

I also am okay with building a close platonic relationship with a man after we have both decided that we are not a romantic match. This is with the understanding that this relationship will change if either of us find a significant other.
 
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I have a very neutral view, maybe realistic is a more accurate term. Nothing is perfect and no one's chances are perfect. But most things aren't completely hopeless. There are new possibilities that present themselves that can be unexpected and some are great and some are not. For me the glass isn't half full or half empty; it's refillable. A few things I know for certain:

Things always improve at some level for everyone who trusts in the Lord and tries to improve themselves. Even if it is just a little bit better. A little bit better is still better. Even if it is better for just a little while, it is better for that length of time.

A few healthy relationship, no matter how casual or how deep, are better than a lot of bad ones. This applies to every type of relationship there is.

If you are still alive, you can always try again.

If you're not trying, things aren't likely to happen. You have to be doing something.

Being alone with good boundaries is better than being crowded and run over.

Being alone and being lonely are two very different things.
 
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