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LittleLambofJesus said: ↑
Your view is that Revelation involves the entire planet being destroyed/remade?
Not sure how you can come to that conclusion, when Revelation clearly shows a Country, City and People being destroyed.
Thank you for that clarification.Act 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
Act 1:10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
Act 1:11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
Do you believe that Revelation 12:5 is showing Jesus being caught up to God? [which would make this "past"]
Acts 1:9
And these things saying, of them looking He was taken/lifted up,
and a cloud did receive Him up from their sight/eyes
Revelation 12:5
She gave birth to a son, a male child, who is to shepher all the nations with a rod of iron.
Her child was caught up to God, and to his throne.
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Here He is on a cloud:
Revelation 14:14
And I saw and behold! a cloud white and upon the cloud one sitting like-as Son of Man,
having upon the head of Him a crown of gold and a sharp sickle in His hands.
And just as Jesus promised, here He is taken up the 2 witnesses in a cloud:
Revelation 11:12
And they heard a great Voice out of the heaven saying to them "ascend ye here!"
and they ascended into the heaven in the cloud
and observed them the enemies of them
Acts 1:
9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld,
he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven?
this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven,
shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
Have you ever looked at the translation of some of the words used for world, earth, land, ground etc in the Bible?The moment that His sinless heel touches the earth (See Genesis 3:15, and the link below.) appears to be the beginning of a chain reaction which will either destroy this planet, or remake it, based on the text found above.
"OIKOUMENE"(#G3625) In Olivet Discourse and Revelation. Mistranslated?
The mistranslation of #g3625 and the possible impact on interpretations when it comes to Eschatology.
Here are 2 other greek words I feel have been horribly mistranslated in the NT:
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GEHENNA/Hell
1067. geena gheh'-en-nah of Hebrew origin (1516 and 2011);
valley of (the son of) Hinnom; ge-henna (or Ge-Hinnom), a valley of Jerusalem, used (figuratively) as a name for the place (or state) of everlasting punishment:--hell
AGE/forever/world
165. aion ahee-ohn' from the same as 104; properly, an age; by extension, perpetuity (also past); by implication, the world; specially (Jewish) a Messianic period (present or future):--Compare 5550...............
166. aionios ahee-o'-nee-os from 165; perpetual (also used of past time, or past and future as well):--eternal, for ever, everlasting, world (began).
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And the word that is the focus of this thread: "OIKOUMENE"<3625>
Definition from greek resources:
3625 oikoumene feminine participle present passive of 3611 (as noun, by implication, of 1093);
land, i.e. the (terrene part of the) globe; specially, the Roman empire:--earth, world.........
STRONGS NT 3625: οἰκουμένη
οἰκουμένη, οἰκουμένης, ἡ (feminine of the present passive participle from οἰκέω (namely, γῆ; cf. Winers Grammar, § 64, 5; Buttmann, § 123, 8));
1. the inhabited earth;
a. in Greek writings often the portion of the earth inhabited by the Greeks, in distinction from the lands of the barbarians, cf. Passow, ii., p. 415a; (Liddell and Scott, under the word, I.).
b. in the Greek authors who wrote about Roman affairs (like the Latinorbis terrarum) equivalent to the Roman empire: so πᾶσα ἡ οἰκουμένη contextually equivalent to all the subjects of this empire, Luke 2:1.
One interesting fact I found out is, that #3625 is used in only 4 verses of the Gospels:
1 in Matthew and 3 in Luke.
I will post 2 of the verses, both of which are used in the Olivet Disourse using the KJV and NASB, as they appear to be 2 popular Bible versions and also use different greek texts.
Used in only 1 verse of Matthew:
Matthew 24:14
New American Standard Bible
"This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world<(oikoumenē)<3625> as a testimony to all the nations,
and then the end will come.
King James Bible
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world<(oikoumenē)<3625> for a witness unto all nations;
and then shall the end come.
Luke 21:26
New American Standard Bible
men fainting from fear and the expectation of the things which are coming upon the world/<(oikoumenē)<3625>;
for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
King James Bible
Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth/οἰκουμένη (oikoumenē)<3625>:
for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
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