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can I follow Christianity without following Christ? can I follow Christ without following a religion?

The church stopped following Jesus when it re-aligned itself with State, shunning the Kingdom in favour of the world of man. Many people happily live their lives following the two commandments of Jesus without ever setting foot in a church. The religion lost it's strangle hold once the scriptures became available to common man.
 
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The church stopped following Jesus when it re-aligned itself with State, shunning the Kingdom in favour of the world of man. Many people happily live their lives following the two commandments of Jesus without ever setting foot in a church.
do they have community?
 
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Certainly. With all they love as themselves, their fellow man. No need to play the right/left game. And those who play it forward. No need for institutional 'perks' designed to prompt loyalty. Plenty of potlucks out there besides in church also. :)
 
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Certainly the liturgy, rules, requirements, Scriptural interpretations that billions of people have adopted or made up in order to be the Church as they see it is a religion. No way to get around that.

But if you strip away all the buildings, pomp and ceremony, liturgy, rules, requirements, Scriptural interpretations etc. etc. etc. out of the equation, we are left with just ourselves and God who loves us enough to live among us, suffer, and die for us to point us to the eternal life that he offers us. Once we do that we have not a religion, but a relationship. Which is what ultimately separates Christianity from all other religions.
Well, for us liturgy, prayers and Bible should be important.
 
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If Jesus came as a woman would his teachings and Kingdom have been more accepted or would He have just been idolized like WW?



With a heavily gentile leaning.
I don't know why was the exact reason the Son became a man and not a woman. I'm still learning.
 
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What do you believe we gain by saying that Christianity is a religion?
Removing new age influence. A lot of them are motivated by their dislike of the word "religion". Plus, a lot of that is based on faulty interpretation of Christianity.
 
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can they be separated? can I follow Christianity without following Christ? can I follow Christ without following a religion?
Jesus established a Church and he said that whoever doesn't listen to her is to be considered a pagan and a tax collector.
 
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The church stopped following Jesus when it re-aligned itself with State, shunning the Kingdom in favour of the world of man. Many people happily live their lives following the two commandments of Jesus without ever setting foot in a church. The religion lost it's strangle hold once the scriptures became available to common man.
The Emperors became Christians, wanted Christianity to prosper, is there something wrong with that?
 
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The Emperors became Christians, wanted Christianity to prosper, is there something wrong with that?

Yep. Motive. They did it as history shows in order to gain at the expense of others. As a tool of power and control over the masses, self serving as man is prone to do. Using God to strengthen and expand their kingdoms rather than change themselves to suit the will of God.
 
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Jesus established a Church and he said that whoever doesn't listen to her is to be considered a pagan and a tax collector.
did he mean the religious organized church? or did he mean the ekklesia, literally the called out ones? is there even a difference between these things?
 
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The religion/following Christ distinction has never seemed all that meaningful to me. It's a contrived issue to make one sound spiritually superior and above the concerns of ritual, community and other earthly matters.
 
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The religion/following Christ distinction has never seemed all that meaningful to me. It's a contrived issue to make one sound spiritually superior and above the concerns of ritual, community and other earthly matters.

Is it not clearly demonstrating the division between those who follow the ways of man and those who choose the Kingdom. One church follows the traditions of the world in it's goals, the other the opposing goals of the Kingdom. A choice Jesus taught .
 
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"Yahshua is one proposed transliterationof the original Hebrew or Aramaic name of Yeshua"

This says Yahshua is a transliteration, which it is...but where does it say that Jesus is a transliteration...how do you get Jesus from Yeshua?

*Hint...through your church's tradition, hence: "I think it's more like the religion gave you Jesus since the Mashiach is Yahshua."
 
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Any word which is misused is can be a misnomer.

if the common meaning of the word is a misnomer than using the historical meaning is no longer relevant in common use. does "lucifer" mean "light bearer" in Latin, a term associated with Jesus, or is it the proper name of Satan? the latter is a misnomer, scripture doesn't tell us any proper name for Satan (outside of Satan), and it certainly isn't in Latin if it did. the historical meaning is still there and it might be useful for historical relevancy but not for common use. So like or not when we use these words we need to accept that most if not all will receive the word under the context of the misnomer nor under its original meaning.
 
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"Yahshua is one proposed transliterationof the original Hebrew or Aramaic name of Yeshua"

This says Yahshua is a transliteration, which it is...but where does it say that Jesus is a transliteration...how do you get Jesus from Yeshua?

*Hint...through your church's tradition, hence: "I think it's more like the religion gave you Jesus since the Mashiach is Yahshua."
The name Jesus is derived from the Latin Iesus, a transliteration of the Greek Ἰησοῦς(Iesous).[50] The Greek form is a rendering of the Hebrew ישוע‎ (Yeshua)
 
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The name Jesus is derived from the Latin Iesus, a transliteration of the Greek Ἰησοῦς(Iesous).[50] The Greek form is a rendering of the Hebrew ישוע‎ (Yeshua)

So it's a transliteration of a transliteration of a transliteration...

Yeah, so it's not a transliteration of Yahshua...like I pointed out...

*A true transliteration would be Joshua...what happened there?

**Hint...your church's tradition

Jesus does not translate to anything...Joshua does...so does Yahshua.
 
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