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Did Jesus give His Jerusalem/Temple Discourse of Luke 21 inside the Temple within hearing of all the people?
Chapter 20 shows Jesus inside the Temple teaching among the people, including the Priests, Scribes and Sadducees.
Luke 20:
1 It happened on one of those days, as he was teaching the people in the Temple and preaching the Good News, that the priests and scribes came to him with the elders. 2They asked him, "Tell us: by what authority do you do these things? Or who is giving you this authority?
19 The chief priests and the scribes sought to lay hands on him that very hour, but they feared the people—for they knew he had spoken this parable against them.
27 Some of the Sadducees came to him, those who deny that there is a resurrection.
45 In the hearing of all the people, he said to his disciples,
46 "Beware of the scribes, who like to walk in long robes, and love greetings in the marketplaces, the best seats in the synagogues, and the best places at feasts;
47 who devour widows' houses, and for a pretense make long prayers:
these will receive greater condemnation."
This continues into chapter 21, and Jesus is still shown in the Temple and it would appear that He gave His future Temple/Jerusalem discourse in front of all the people, including the Jewish Rulers?
Luke 21:
1 He looked up, and saw the rich people who were putting their gifts into the treasury. 2 He saw a certain poor widow casting in two small brass coins. 3 He said, "Truly I tell you, this poor widow put in more than all of them, 4 for all these put in gifts for God from their abundance, but she, out of her poverty, put in all that she had to live on."
5 As some were talking about the temple and how it was decorated with beautiful stones and gifts, he said,
6 "As for these things which you see, the days will come, in which there will not be left here one stone on another that will not be thrown down." 7 They asked him, "Teacher, so when will these things be? What is the sign that these things are about to happen?"
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Now to Matthew 24
The previous 3 chapters of Matthew 24 are spoken in the Temple up to the last verse in Matthew 23 when Jesus was giving the Scribes and Pharisees a verbal lashing including condemning them to the "Gehenna" in vs 33:
Matthew 23:
1 Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to his disciples, 2 saying, "The scribes and the Pharisees sat on Moses' seat
33
'Serpents! brood of vipers! how may ye escape from the judgment of the gehenna?
37 "Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets, and stones those who are sent to her! How often I would have gathered your children together, even as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you would not!
38 Behold, your house is left to you desolate. 39 For I tell you, you will not see me from now on, until you say, 'Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!'"
Then Matthew 24 shows them departing the Temple, and then on the Mount of Olives, when Jesus gives His Temple/Jerusalem discourse:
Matthew 24
1 Jesus went out from the temple, and was going on his way.
His disciples came to him to show him the buildings of the temple. 2 But he answered them, "You see all of these things, don't you? Most certainly I tell you, there will not be left here one stone on another, that will not be thrown down."
3 Yet of Him sitting on the Mount of the Olives, the Disciples came toward to Him according to own saying "be telling! to us, when? shall these be, and what? the sign<4592>
of the Thy parousia, and together-finish<4931> of the age.
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Now Mark 13
In Mark 13, there are at the Mount of Olives, and only 4 of the Disciples come up to Him:
Mark 13:
1 And of Him going forth out of the temple, one of His disciples says to Him, “Teacher! behold what stones and what buildings!”
2 And Jesus said to him, “Do you see these great buildings? Not one stone shall be left here upon a stone, which shall not be thrown down.”
3 And of Him sitting upon the Mount of Olives, opposite the temple, Peter and James and John and Andrew asked Him in private, 4“Tell us when these things will be, and what will be the sign when all these things are going to be accomplished?”
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Is Jesus talking about the future destruction of Jerusalem and Temple in 70ad in Luke 21, and all/part of Matthew 24/Mark 13 is still future?
Or is only part of all 3 fulfilled in 70ad, and part of them still future or all of the 3 discourses are all still future.
Thanks for any responses.
.
Chapter 20 shows Jesus inside the Temple teaching among the people, including the Priests, Scribes and Sadducees.
Luke 20:
1 It happened on one of those days, as he was teaching the people in the Temple and preaching the Good News, that the priests and scribes came to him with the elders. 2They asked him, "Tell us: by what authority do you do these things? Or who is giving you this authority?
19 The chief priests and the scribes sought to lay hands on him that very hour, but they feared the people—for they knew he had spoken this parable against them.
27 Some of the Sadducees came to him, those who deny that there is a resurrection.
45 In the hearing of all the people, he said to his disciples,
46 "Beware of the scribes, who like to walk in long robes, and love greetings in the marketplaces, the best seats in the synagogues, and the best places at feasts;
47 who devour widows' houses, and for a pretense make long prayers:
these will receive greater condemnation."
This continues into chapter 21, and Jesus is still shown in the Temple and it would appear that He gave His future Temple/Jerusalem discourse in front of all the people, including the Jewish Rulers?
Luke 21:
1 He looked up, and saw the rich people who were putting their gifts into the treasury. 2 He saw a certain poor widow casting in two small brass coins. 3 He said, "Truly I tell you, this poor widow put in more than all of them, 4 for all these put in gifts for God from their abundance, but she, out of her poverty, put in all that she had to live on."
5 As some were talking about the temple and how it was decorated with beautiful stones and gifts, he said,
6 "As for these things which you see, the days will come, in which there will not be left here one stone on another that will not be thrown down." 7 They asked him, "Teacher, so when will these things be? What is the sign that these things are about to happen?"
===========================
Now to Matthew 24
The previous 3 chapters of Matthew 24 are spoken in the Temple up to the last verse in Matthew 23 when Jesus was giving the Scribes and Pharisees a verbal lashing including condemning them to the "Gehenna" in vs 33:
Matthew 23:
1 Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to his disciples, 2 saying, "The scribes and the Pharisees sat on Moses' seat
33
'Serpents! brood of vipers! how may ye escape from the judgment of the gehenna?
37 "Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets, and stones those who are sent to her! How often I would have gathered your children together, even as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you would not!
38 Behold, your house is left to you desolate. 39 For I tell you, you will not see me from now on, until you say, 'Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!'"
Then Matthew 24 shows them departing the Temple, and then on the Mount of Olives, when Jesus gives His Temple/Jerusalem discourse:
Matthew 24
1 Jesus went out from the temple, and was going on his way.
His disciples came to him to show him the buildings of the temple. 2 But he answered them, "You see all of these things, don't you? Most certainly I tell you, there will not be left here one stone on another, that will not be thrown down."
3 Yet of Him sitting on the Mount of the Olives, the Disciples came toward to Him according to own saying "be telling! to us, when? shall these be, and what? the sign<4592>
of the Thy parousia, and together-finish<4931> of the age.
==================================
Now Mark 13
In Mark 13, there are at the Mount of Olives, and only 4 of the Disciples come up to Him:
Mark 13:
1 And of Him going forth out of the temple, one of His disciples says to Him, “Teacher! behold what stones and what buildings!”
2 And Jesus said to him, “Do you see these great buildings? Not one stone shall be left here upon a stone, which shall not be thrown down.”
3 And of Him sitting upon the Mount of Olives, opposite the temple, Peter and James and John and Andrew asked Him in private, 4“Tell us when these things will be, and what will be the sign when all these things are going to be accomplished?”
================================================
Is Jesus talking about the future destruction of Jerusalem and Temple in 70ad in Luke 21, and all/part of Matthew 24/Mark 13 is still future?
Or is only part of all 3 fulfilled in 70ad, and part of them still future or all of the 3 discourses are all still future.
Thanks for any responses.
.
