How do I deal with lies/rumours spread about us?

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Hey guys,

I come to you all seeking advice with an issue that my family and I are currently facing. As the title suggests, we are dealing with an ex family member who is currently spreading lies about us as a last spiteful effort to ruin our reputation and image, and to make it seem like he was a victim of verbal abuse during his time living with us.

Long story short, my mum separated from her ex-husband because he became extremely childish, arrogant, spiteful and selfish in the last few months of living with us. So much so that living with him became a mental and physical challenge because his actions were too much to handle on a daily basis. He became the physical definition of obnoxious in every way possible.

A few weeks prior to being kicked out, he would lash out at my mum for anything and everything, wait for her to respond, then secretly audio record her and send it out to his sister as "proof" that my mum is the bully in the relationship. This was done several times and we did not know until recently when his sister informed my aunt about the secret recordings.

Not only that, but he's also going around contacting our family friends and relatives to spread the lies about us, saying that we bullied him into leaving, and that we were constantly rude and disrespectful to him throughout his time here and much much more. There's about 15 different lies to be specific, and those mentioned above are nothing compared to the rest, but I won't repeat those here.

My aunts, uncles, cousins, brother, sister in law and grandparents have all been a victim of his rumours, and this is clearly his last ditch effort to ruin our friendships and reputation and drag us down to his level because he's clearly miserable in his life. He was thrown out like yesterday's garbage by his previous family and noone cares about him. We were kind enough to bring him into our family and make him feel right at home, and yet this is how he repays us... Explains a lot about why he's hated by so many.

We've tried everything we could to sort this relationship out but nothing worked. We've even contacted his own siblings to sit down and talk to him, but his stubbornness knows no bounds. Kicking him out was probably the best decision we made as it relieved so much tension in this household, but his pathetic behaviour still affects us as he continues to spread lies about us.

Many grew suspicious that he was cheating, and that this was his attempt at breaking up with my mum. But we're not 100% sure.

So, what do you guys reckon we should do about this? For anyone living in Australia, is this against the law?

Thank you, and God bless.
 

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My advice is literally do nothing. Anyone close enough to your family to know you will see the truth right off

Certainly some people will believe him but people who listen to gossip aren't the type of people you want to be friends with anyway. In time they will likely see their error any way..

It's a good time to see who your real freinds are at any rate. Things like this happen, it's best not to respond. I've never felt a need to defend my honor to anyone. If they don't know me enough to know the truth then I didn't need them anyway... My actions show who I am, let the gossipers blab about nothing.

Is it hurtful? Yes. But it can't be helped, no point devolving your entire life answering another man's sin. Let who you are speak for itself, and the naysayers alone.

Your mom's marriage to him, if I'm understanding correctly, is a different animal... if they are married it needs dealt with according to our faith.
 
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If there are so many other family members who have been victimized by this person as you indicate that there are, you may be worried too much. They must doubt that what he says about your immediate family is accurate if the same thing was done to them and to other people that they know.

Given this situation, the best approach might be to low-ball the response. Rather than act defensive by being angry and accusatory, you might try speaking to these other relatives and friends with an "everyone knows" or "there he goes again, sigh" or "what do you think can be done to help him?" style. That's if you feel you need to take it up with them at all. They surely will be sympathetic to you, not to him, if you all share common experiences.

Beyond this, there isn't much you can do to guarantee that every last person he talks with isn't going to believe his account of things...at least not until you find out who they are.
 
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Thank you all for the thoughtful responses.

I did write the original post somewhat fast, so I do apologise if some parts don't make sense.

He's been out of this family for almost a month now, and due to vast amount of people we know, both close and far, it's going to be a real struggle to have to explain everything to every single one of them who comes across the rumours.

Due to his child-like behaviour and constant feelings for revenge, I am 100% sure he will not stop until he is satisfied with the amount of bs he's currently sharing with others. I know not everyone will believe him, and some don't even like him, but that won't stop him from chalking up more nonsense to get back at us.

I forgot to mention that he has gone as far as contacting our relatives overseas to chalk up more lies and nonsense to get us to break up our relationships, and some have even called us to inform us of what he's done. It's ridiculously childish and only adding more to his miserable life. We're not worried about him spreading lies per se, but the relationships that could be ruined because of those lies.
 
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If there is a response at all, keep it very short, mater-of-fact, and on topic. Simply say something like, "He didn't record it all." "There is some manipulation going on here." or "It was an unhealthy situation we had to bring to an end." And leave it at that. Don't attack him or his character, don't bring other things up, don't participate in lengthy conversations or debates about it.

The people who know your household well and love you and are patient and open minded will not stay fooled. If there is an opening for an honest and non-confrontational conversation with family members, then use it to explain the other side of the story, but don't do it in a way that will make you look like you're participating in the drama or adding to it.
 
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By the way you describe his behavior, he sounds like he has a serious mental illness going on, although that is purely speculation. Either way, if he has that amount of energy to contact who he is contacting, I think a direct response from your family is just going to feed him exactly what he wants. I'm not sure if you have anything like a restraining order in Australia, but I would suggest obtaining one of those and finalizing the divorce if that has not already been done. And if there is any further legal action that could be taken against him, I would consider it. Here in the U.S. you can sue someone for defamation like that. You could have your attorney send him a letter saying that if he does not stop immediately, he will be sued. But if you do that you have to be prepared to follow through on the threat if he doesn't stop. Definitely something worth looking into.
 
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I've had people tell lies about me and I know how hurtful they can be but, have realized with time spent in the Word that God takes care of those people that talk smack regarding Christians so we leave it up to Him.

We know that God knows our hearts and minds although I get hung up on self, I should remember that's what's important, what God thinks and knows regarding me (us).

Give those people to God and pray for them.

I have found great relief in that.



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I will try my best to avoid confrontation and just address whatever is asked of me by others, but I will definitely set a limit and will act should he cross the line. I know we're supposed to stay quiet, but you can't stay passive forever whilst someone is out there slandering you and your family.

We've already spoken to his brother and sister in law, and they've brought this up with him but he refused to stop. They said he was hardheaded throughout the conversation. I'm really convinced this man is not sane. He's out of his mind.

By the way you describe his behavior, he sounds like he has a serious mental illness going on

Everyone believes this to be the case as well. I don't think there's a word for his type of behaviour because it's just all over the place. Sometime he'd be cool and fun, sometimes quiet and reserved, and sometimes just straight out insane. Once, a little girl was playing outdoors and accidentally kicked the ball and it hit him, and about an hour later, he came back with an object in a plastic bag and threw it at her back. It was the strangest thing I had ever seen, and upon confronting him, he said he felt disrespected by what the girl had done. This example is the average behaviour for this person.

I also recently heard he continues to share those audio recordings, but I don't know with whom. What really bothers me is how twisted those audio recordings are. He got my mum all riled up, then secretly records her confronting him and is using that as "proof" that she's aggressive. He's a liar and a deceiver and this is what's bothering me the most.

I will definitely contact the authorities in the morning to make a complaint and a record of this incident. But I will definitely lay low in the mean time until I can gather more information and see the extent of his bs.
 
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Matthew 5:10-12 says you are blessed if people persecute you and revile you and slander you if it is because of Him.

Something I learned while going through high school is that even if you are being abused severely by others, it’s best to respond in a manner as if they had done nothing wrong because often abusive people like that will conveniently forget everything they did and said and will only talk about what you said and did in reaction to them if you react at all. I don’t really know how to deal with slander I’ve had people say stuff about me like I was a lesbian or having sex with my sister or that I had a secret boyfriend while I was in high school or that I was living with a man while in college and who knows what else that they didn’t tell me to my face. To be honest I don’t know how to deal with it. For the most part I ignore it. At least the one good thing about not responding is that these people eventually lost interest in me and after they felt they got away with it would just leave so as a result I now live a peaceful life albeit I don’t know very many people anymore but all those people have moved on with their lives and have probably at this point have forgotten about me so I’m left alone.

I don’t know whether you should get a restraining order against him or not. It’s up to you. When I was in the sixth grade I and my sister had to ask the school to make four girls stop bullying us and it worked but we didnt ask until the abuse started getting physical. If you think it might be a good idea then it is important to keep a log of what happened on what days.

1 Corinthians 4:8-16 says that the apostles were treated like the scum and trash of the earth and said that when reviled they blessed, when persecuted they endured, when slandered they entreated.
 
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Not only that, but he's also going around contacting our family friends and relatives to spread the lies about us, saying that we bullied him into leaving, and that we were constantly rude and disrespectful to him throughout his time here and much much more. There's about 15 different lies to be specific, and those mentioned above are nothing compared to the rest, but I won't repeat those here.

My aunts, uncles, cousins, brother, sister in law and grandparents have all been a victim of his rumours, and this is clearly his last ditch effort to ruin our friendships and reputation and drag us down to his level because he's clearly miserable in his life. He was thrown out like yesterday's garbage by his previous family and noone cares about him. We were kind enough to bring him into our family and make him feel right at home, and yet this is how he repays us... Explains a lot about why he's hated by so many.
1) First, get your family all on the same page, and working together. I'm not including him in this.
2) Presume the friends don't believe him, and if they seem to, set the record straight with them. They may not know what to believe, and if he as as toxic as you claim, they may be suspicious of him.
3) If his lies affected things like employment or child custody, investigate your legal options. His recordings make this a bit more difficult, consult a legal expert on what to do, especially in light of them.
 
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