the time is near: To seal or not to seal

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There are typically 2 interpretations to daniel 8: 1.) it is about Antiochus Epiphanes or 2.) about a future endtimes antichrist. If interpretation #1 is correct, then the "many days from now" is around 350-400 years (time from Daniel to Antiochus). If interpretatation #2 is correct, then the "many days from now" is +2,500 years (time from daniel to future antichrist). Either way, whether the "many days from now" is 350-400 years or +2,500 years, daniel is told to seal up the vision because it's for the future.

Daniel 8:26 The vision of the evenings and the mornings that has been spoken is true. Now you must seal up the vision, for it concerns many days from now.”

However, when we come to Revelation, John is told NOT to seal up the prophecy because the time is near. Looking back at daniel 8, and in order to be consistent, if interpretation #1 is correct, then the "time is near" in revelation should be much less than 350-400 years. If however, interpretation #2 is correct, then it doesn't make much sense for the angel to tell John "the time is near" for +2,000 years (time from John to end times antichrist), while daniel is told "many days from now" for +2,500 years (time from Daniel to antichrist). This would be significantly inconsistent for the "near" and "distant" time frames given by the angel.

Revelation 22:10 Then he told me, “Do not seal up the words of prophecy in this book, because the time is near.
 

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Daniel 8:26 The vision of the evenings and the mornings that has been spoken is true. Now you must seal up the vision, for it concerns many days from now.”
However, when we come to Revelation, John is told NOT to seal up the prophecy because the time is near.
Revelation 22:10 Then he told me, “Do not seal up the words of prophecy in this book, because the time is near.
Good post.

I would say that Daniel 12:1, Luke 21:23-36 and Revelation 1:3 Revelation 22:10 go together like white on rice.

Daniel 12:1
1 “At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. [Daniel 10:21 Revelation 12:7]
There will be a time of distress<H6869> such as has not happened from the beginning of nation[Israel?] until then. [Luke 21:23]
And at that time your peopleescape, everyone whose name is found written in the book. [Luke 21:36]
4 “But you, Daniel, close up these words and seal the book until the time of the end. Many will dash about, and knowledge will increase.”

Luke 21:23
23 “But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days!
For there will be great distress<G318> in the land and wrath upon this people.
36 “Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape<1628> from all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.”

Daniel 12:4
“But you Daniel, close up the words and seal the book until the time of the end.
Many will dash to and fro, and knowledge will increase.”

Revelation 1:3 and Revelation 22:10 showing the "end was nigh"
Revelation 1:3
Blessed/happy the one reading, and the ones hearing, the Words of the Prophecy, and keepings in it having been Written/gegrammena <1125> (5772),
for the Time is nigh/egguV <1451>.
Revelation 22:10
And he is saying to me "no thou should be sealing the Words of the Prophecy of the Scroll, this.
For the Time Is-nigh/egguV <1451>
A thread I created on Daniel 12 and Luke 21:

Daniel 12:1 and Luke 21 same event?
I would agree with that premise. Not only because of mentioned the great distress or great tribulation, but because the passage also mentions of the resurrection.
So it's relative to the resurrection, which frames it in the final days.
No, Luke 21:23 is 70 AD. Daniel 12:1 is end times.
so if 70ad is when the days of vengeance occur, to fulfill ALL that is written, what is left to be fulfilled at a 2000+ year later end time.
Luke 21:22 for these are days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written.
It's possible I suppose.

Are Daniel 12:1 and Luke 21:23 same event?
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I would say that Daniel 12:1, Luke 21:23-36 and Revelation 1:3 Revelation 22:10 go together like white on rice.

Daniel 12:1
1 “At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. [Daniel 10:21 Revelation 12:7]
There will be a time of distress<H6869> such as has not happened from the beginning of nation[Israel?] until then. [Luke 21:23]
And at that time your peopleescape, everyone whose name is found written in the book. [Luke 21:36]
4 “But you, Daniel, close up these words and seal the book until the time of the end. Many will dash about, and knowledge will increase.”

Dan 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
Dan 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Why would you think verse 2 above should be disconnected from verse 1?

Do you think verse 1 was fulfilled during 70 AD?


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