Did we discover alien technology in 2017?

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Found this recently --

from : It Might Be Aliens. But We Have No Idea What to Do About It.
Jan 17 2019
"Abraham Loeb, chair of Harvard’s department of astronomy, recently gave a freewheeling interview to the Israeli newspaper Haaretz in which he defended his hypothesis that a piece of alien technology recently passed through our solar system. “If it turns out to be correct, it’s one of the greatest discoveries in human history,” he said in the interview, which was published on Monday. Loeb made largely the same argument in an interview with the New Yorker on Wednesday, in which he said, “My motivation, in part, is to motivate the scientific community to collect more data on the next object rather than argue a priori that they know the answer.”
"What is Loeb talking about? Did we discover alien life and fail to notice?"

The article goes on to note --
"the authors suggest that ‘Oumuamua may be “debris from an advanced technological equipment” or “a fully operational probe sent intentionally to Earth vicinity by an alien civilization.”

Why not just space rock in orbit around the sun --- like everything else?

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The New Yorker -

On October 19, 2017, astronomers at the University of Hawaii spotted a strange object travelling through our solar system, which they later described as “a red and extremely elongated asteroid.” It was the first interstellar object to be detected within our solar system; the scientists named it ‘Oumuamua, the Hawaiian word for a scout or messenger. The following October, Avi Loeb, the chair of Harvard’s astronomy department, co-wrote a paper (with a Harvard postdoctoral fellow, Shmuel Bialy) that examined ‘Oumuamua’s “peculiar acceleration” and suggested that the object “may be a fully operational probe sent intentionally to Earth’s vicinity by an alien civilization.
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Loeb thinks we need to consider the possibility that ‘Oumuamua was sent by aliens, the dangers of unscientific speculation, and what belief in an advanced extraterrestrial civilization has in common with faith in God.


Have Aliens Found Us? A Harvard Astronomer on the Mysterious Interstellar Object ‘Oumuamua
 
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That NewYorker article also had this

"There is a Scientific American article I wrote where I summarized six strange facts about ‘Oumuamua.
The first one is that we didn’t expect this object to exist in the first place. We see the solar system and we can calculate at what rate it ejected rocks during its history. And if we assume all planetary systems around other stars are doing the same thing, we can figure out what the population of interstellar objects should be. That calculation results in a lot of possibilities, but the range is much less than needed to explain the discovery of ‘Oumuamua.

There is another peculiar fact about this object. When you look at all the stars in the vicinity of the sun, they move relative to the sun, the sun moves relative to them, but only one in five hundred stars in that frame is moving as slow as ‘Oumuamua. You would expect that most rocks would move roughly at the speed of the star they came from. If this object came from another star, that star would have to be very special.

When it was discovered, we realized it spins every eight hours, and its brightness changed by at least a factor of ten. The fact that its brightness varies by a factor of ten as it spins means that it is at least ten times longer than it is wide. We don’t have a photo, but, in all the artists’ illustrations that you have seen on the Web, it looks like a cigar. That’s one possibility. But it’s also possible that it’s a pancake-like geometry, and, in fact, that is favored.

Wait. The most unusual fact about it is that it deviates from an orbit that is shaped purely by the gravitational force of the sun. Usually, in the case of comets, such a deviation is caused by the evaporation of ice on the surface of the comet, creating gases that push the comet, like the rocket effect. That’s what comets show: a cometary tail of evaporated gas. We don’t see a cometary tail here, but, nevertheless, we see a deviation from the expected orbit. And that is the thing that triggered the paper. Once I realized that the object is moving differently than expected, then the question is what gives it the extra push. And, by the way, after our paper appeared, another paper came out with analysis that showed very tight limits on any carbon-based molecules in the vicinity of this object.

What is the significance of that?

It means that there is no evidence of gas that relates to the evaporation of ice. We don’t see the telltale signatures of cometary tail. Moreover, if it was cometary activity, then we would expect the spin period of this object to change, and we don’t see that. All of these things are indicative of the fact that it is nothing like a comet that we have seen before in the solar system. And it is also nothing like an asteroid. Its brightness varies by a factor of ten, and the maximum you typically observe is a factor of three. It has a much more extreme geometry, and there is some other force pushing it. The question is, what’s providing this force, and that was the trigger for our paper."
 
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Well if it’s alien technology let’s hope it is forcefield technology. That would solve the border wall deal.

Then again it could be Wormwood.

Yeah they probably came to share their technology with us...
 
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When it was discovered, we realized it spins every eight hours, and its brightness changed by at least a factor of ten. The fact that its brightness varies by a factor of ten as it spins means that it is at least ten times longer than it is wide. We don’t have a photo, but, in all the artists’ illustrations that you have seen on the Web, it looks like a cigar. That’s one possibility. But it’s also possible that it’s a pancake-like geometry, and, in fact, that is favored.
Cigar shaped?

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Why not just space rock in orbit around the sun --- like everything else?

It is just a space rock, but on a hyperbolic path. It came from outside the solar system, and it's leaving again.

We don't know exactly what shape it is: we can only make guesses based on changes in brightness.

Comet_20171025-16_gif.gif
 
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Found this recently --

from : It Might Be Aliens. But We Have No Idea What to Do About It.
Jan 17 2019
"Abraham Loeb, chair of Harvard’s department of astronomy, recently gave a freewheeling interview to the Israeli newspaper Haaretz in which he defended his hypothesis that a piece of alien technology recently passed through our solar system. “If it turns out to be correct, it’s one of the greatest discoveries in human history,” he said in the interview, which was published on Monday. Loeb made largely the same argument in an interview with the New Yorker on Wednesday, in which he said, “My motivation, in part, is to motivate the scientific community to collect more data on the next object rather than argue a priori that they know the answer.”
"What is Loeb talking about? Did we discover alien life and fail to notice?"

The article goes on to note --
"the authors suggest that ‘Oumuamua may be “debris from an advanced technological equipment” or “a fully operational probe sent intentionally to Earth vicinity by an alien civilization.”

Why not just space rock in orbit around the sun --- like everything else?

==============================

The New Yorker -

On October 19, 2017, astronomers at the University of Hawaii spotted a strange object travelling through our solar system, which they later described as “a red and extremely elongated asteroid.” It was the first interstellar object to be detected within our solar system; the scientists named it ‘Oumuamua, the Hawaiian word for a scout or messenger. The following October, Avi Loeb, the chair of Harvard’s astronomy department, co-wrote a paper (with a Harvard postdoctoral fellow, Shmuel Bialy) that examined ‘Oumuamua’s “peculiar acceleration” and suggested that the object “may be a fully operational probe sent intentionally to Earth’s vicinity by an alien civilization.
...
Loeb thinks we need to consider the possibility that ‘Oumuamua was sent by aliens, the dangers of unscientific speculation, and what belief in an advanced extraterrestrial civilization has in common with faith in God.


Have Aliens Found Us? A Harvard Astronomer on the Mysterious Interstellar Object ‘Oumuamua


It did share it's technology with us!


It reflected some light.

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It did share it's technology with us!


It reflected some light.

images

What is kool about this is that the internet has all those "pictures" of something nobody ever saw.

On the other hand what amazing import fees would come with bringing their version of a peanut butter sandwich all the way to earth because they "love to share".
 
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Bob ?????

I am just passing along a news item. but the real agenda I suspect that is coming is in 2 Thess 2 and Rev 13. Ultimately a lot of (read centuries of) "back story" will have been laid down for the Matthew 24 version of a counterfeit second coming.

It will not be of the form "Change of plans here is a whole new idea we just thought of yesterday"

Rev 16 someone is going to "all the governments of the earth" and telling them to assemble forces -- in Rev 19 all governments of the earth are assembled with their forces - and in Rev 19 there is an Army assembled coming from beyond our solar system that Christ is leading to Earth.

So then how is it that "change of plans here is a whole new idea" suddenly gets such amazing amount of "credit" with all governments of Earth without some sort of ongoing 'back story' that everyone is already accustomed to?

If they want the "whole world" to fall for it - there is going to be a very impressive back story already in place.
 
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What is kool about this is that the internet has all those "pictures" of something nobody ever saw.

Indeed. Even the idea of it being long and skinny is just a guess, based on brightness fluctuations. In pictures, it's just a tiny dot.
 
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It is just a space rock, but on a hyperbolic path. It came from outside the solar system, and it's leaving again.

We don't know exactly what shape it is: we can only make guesses based on changes in brightness.

Comet_20171025-16_gif.gif

true and the animation you are showing does not reveal a hyperbolic path. Rather it looks like one of our classic "gravitational sling shot" maneuvers that we use to send out probes beyond our solar system. Only it is being done with the entire solar system and not just with a single planet the way we do it.

(assuming that animation is based on measurements)
 
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true and the animation you are showing does not reveal a hyperbolic path.

It sure looks like a hyperbola to me. See also ʻOumuamua - Wikipedia

Rather it looks like one of our classic "gravitational sling shot" maneuvers that we use to send out probes beyond our solar system.

That is hyperbolic.

Have you perhaps got "hyperbolic" and "parabolic" confused?
 
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It sure looks like a hyperbola to me. See also ʻOumuamua - Wikipedia



That is hyperbolic.

Have you perhaps got "hyperbolic" and "parabolic" confused?

That link says "ʻOumuamua is tumbling, rather than smoothly rotating, and is moving so fast relative to the Sun that there is no chance it originated in the Solar System. It also means that ʻOumuamua cannot be captured into a solar orbit, so it will eventually leave the Solar System and resume traveling through interstellar space."
 
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That link says "ʻOumuamua is tumbling, rather than smoothly rotating

Likely true, but that's nothing to do with the orbit or trajectory.

And that link also describes ʻOumuamua multiple times as being on a hyperbolic trajectory. Did you not read it? See ʻOumuamua - Wikipedia

and is moving so fast relative to the Sun that there is no chance it originated in the Solar System. It also means that ʻOumuamua cannot be captured into a solar orbit, so it will eventually leave the Solar System and resume traveling through interstellar space."

Yes, those things are true about hyperbolic trajectories. And that's exactly what I said.

It is just a space rock, but on a hyperbolic path. It came from outside the solar system, and it's leaving again.

Do you not know what "hyperbolic" means? See Hyperbolic trajectory - Wikipedia
 
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I am just passing along a news item. but the real agenda I suspect that is coming is in 2 Thess 2 and Rev 13. Ultimately a lot of (read centuries of) "back story" will have been laid down for the Matthew 24 version of a counterfeit second coming.

It will not be of the form "Change of plans here is a whole new idea we just thought of yesterday"

Rev 16 someone is going to "all the governments of the earth" and telling them to assemble forces -- in Rev 19 all governments of the earth are assembled with their forces - and in Rev 19 there is an Army assembled coming from beyond our solar system that Christ is leading to Earth.

So then how is it that "change of plans here is a whole new idea" suddenly gets such amazing amount of "credit" with all governments of Earth without some sort of ongoing 'back story' that everyone is already accustomed to?

If they want the "whole world" to fall for it - there is going to be a very impressive back story already in place.


I think you are on the right track here.

One of the Rockefeller brothers (Maybe Lawrence???) came up with a plan to use a counterfeit alien invasion to get the people of this planet to accept world government.

Look at all of the programs the History Channel has done on "Ancient Aliens", and most recently "Project Blue Book" was produced. Television has become nothing more than a brain-washing device.


It could be the greatest scam in the history of mankind.

You can see below that some of the most powerful people on the planet are pushing the globalist agenda.

At one time CBS Newsman Walter Cronkite was considered
"The Most Trusted Man in America".


Listen to his words below at a meeting of the "World Federalist Association". At the end of the video the woman who almost became president of the United States congratulates Cronkite for his efforts.


Cronkite also makes a comment about following Satan during the speech.

(Time 6:50)


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